Re: Thanks

Posted by Tom Kilbane on October 28, 1997 at 19:54:28:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks posted by Marcia on October 28, 1997 at 07:32:19:

Marcia wote: >

Just don't start me on "Dance with Wolves," "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves," "JFK," and a whole host of unmentionables. If you think I am tough on movies I like; you have not heard anything until I go off on movies I hate. Anyway about my feelings on "Braveheart" I felt the film had a chance to be truly great but it was dumbed down in order to attract a summer movie audience. I loved it as story of a man's and a nation's struggle against tyranny but its faults were glaring enough that it did not acheive the position as one of all my all time favorites. LOTM has its faults too but they did not deflect from my enjoyment. That ridiculous, stupid, made-up phony romance between Wallace and the Princess just annoyed me so much. What was the purpose? It undercut his "timeless" love for his dead wife and cheesy lines like "You remind me of her" does not repair the damage! I see the only purpose for this inexplicable plot device was an attempt to keep female viewers interested in what was basically a "blood and guts" adventure movie.

It was THE dead part in "Braveheart." LOTM has a "dead part" too. A dead part, in my opinion, is a scene in the film that is so pointless and out of place that the audience loses touch with film. In LOTM it was after the waterfall scene and Russel Means is pulled out of the water. Our three heroes then start their pursuit of the Hurons and at that moment the Clannad music starts playing. A huge mistake on Mann's part putting that anachronistic music in this film. In every theater I saw the film the audience would become noticeably restless during the duration of that song. It was if the "hypnoptic spell" of the movie had been broken by a snap of the fingers but in reality it was Maire Ni Brennan's lovely but out of place voice. The same happened in every theater where I saw "Braveheart" but it wasn't a song it was the silly and pointless love scene between Marceau and Gibson.

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• Re: Thanks Myrrh 10:40:45 10/30/97 (0)
• Re: Thanks Marcia 14:18:50 10/29/97 (2)
  • Re: Thanks Heather 15:42:08 10/29/97 (1)
    • Moments of Silence Marcia 16:09:14 10/29/97 (0)
• Claanad music gretchen 13:41:18 10/29/97 (7)
  • Re: Claanad music Mary 08:42:42 10/30/97 (6)
    • Re: Claanad music Tom Kilbane 20:39:53 10/30/97 (5)
      • Re: Claanad music Heather 13:09:26 11/03/97 (2)
        • Re: Claanad music Marcia 18:55:24 11/03/97 (1)
          • Re: Claanad music Myrrh 20:47:01 11/03/97 (0)
      • Re: Claanad music gretchen 12:47:35 10/31/97 (1)
        • Re: Claanad music Heather 13:02:05 11/03/97 (0)
• Celts, Mohicans, and Anglo-Saxons Elaine 20:34:57 10/28/97 (6)
  • Re: Celts, Mohicans, and Anglo-Saxons Tom Kilbane 21:20:05 10/30/97 (5)
    • Re: Celts, Mohicans, and Anglo-Saxons John 04:09:42 11/01/97 (2)
      • Re: Celts, Mohicans, and Anglo-Saxons Neuromancer 05:27:39 11/01/97 (0)
      • Re: Celts ... continued John 05:04:13 11/01/97 (0)
    • Re: Celts, Mohicans, and Anglo-Saxons Mike Zeares 04:17:55 10/31/97 (0)
    • Re: Celts, Mohicans, and Anglo-Saxons Elaine 21:49:14 10/30/97 (0)

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: Marcia wote: >

: Just don't start me on "Dance with Wolves," "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves," "JFK," and a whole host of unmentionables.  If you think I am tough on movies I like; you have not heard anything until I go off on movies I hate.  Anyway about my feelings on "Braveheart" I felt the film had a chance to be truly great but it was dumbed down in order to attract a summer movie audience.  I loved it as story of a man's and a nation's struggle against tyranny but its faults were glaring enough that it did not acheive the position as one of all my all time favorites.  LOTM has its faults too but they did not deflect from my enjoyment.  That ridiculous, stupid, made-up phony romance between Wallace and the Princess just annoyed me so much.  What was the purpose?  It undercut his "timeless" love for his dead wife and cheesy lines like "You remind me of her" does not repair the damage!  I see the only purpose for this inexplicable plot device was an attempt to keep female viewers interested in what was basically a "blood and guts" adventure movie.

: It was THE dead part in "Braveheart."  LOTM has a "dead part" too.  A dead part, in my opinion, is a scene in the film that is so pointless and out of place that the audience loses touch with film.  In LOTM it was after the waterfall scene and Russel Means is pulled out of the water.  Our three heroes then start their pursuit of the Hurons and at that moment the Clannad music starts playing.  A huge mistake on Mann's part putting that anachronistic music in this film.  In every theater I saw the film the audience would become noticeably restless during the duration of that song.  It was if the "hypnoptic spell" of the movie had been broken by a snap of the fingers but in reality it was Maire Ni Brennan's lovely but out of place voice.  The same happened in every theater where I saw "Braveheart" but it wasn't a song it was the silly and pointless love scene between Marceau and Gibson.



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