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Poll Question:
It's there in the script; Eric Schweig talks of it in our interview ... Should the oft-discussed Alice/Uncas "love" scene have been included in the Director's Cut version of LOTM?
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 Posted - January 29 2003 : 10:57:15 PM
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| I voted for it as a deleted scene/extra because I would like it to be a separate little gem in its own right. Why can't we see it? |
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Posted - January 30 2003 : 12:43:45 AM
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Oh man, don't get me started again! [ha!ha!]
I want an expanded Directors Cut DVD, with *ALL* cut footage added,
and interviews+ !!!! |
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Posted - January 31 2003 : 7:40:10 PM
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| Aye, I want the whole enchilada too! I want as much as possible. I can't get enough of the movie as it is. LOL! |
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Posted - February 01 2003 : 5:14:24 PM
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I voted, "as a deleted scenes extra only," but really it could have been, "not sure [if it should be there at all]".
Through the years, this "romance" has been one of the most talked about topics of all regarding LOTM. It's a constantly recurring theme. It would seem to me, that Michael Mann successfully spun a bit of magic here with this. Despite a virtual lack of any [or much, anyway] solid indication of romance, no less sex, he managed to intrigue and spur the imaginations of so many. Brilliant, actually.
I wonder ... if the scene were ever seen, would it ever be the same? |
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 Posted - February 01 2003 : 5:30:02 PM
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OK. Guess I'm going to have to stop being incognito and confess. I... am the lone gunman! Er... I mean that I am the only one who has voted No!
Sorry, but I still haven't changed my mind since my post in the "Jhodi May Doesn't Look Like Alice" thread, on Dec. 17th.
To me, a love scene between Uncas and Alice simply has no place in the movie. Now I can appreciate a well-done love scene in a movie as much as the next person... I am not that old!  However, it just wouldn't fit in with the story as it was presented in the finished movie. Maaaay...beee as a deleted scenes only... But I'm still thinking: No! |
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 Posted - February 01 2003 : 7:03:43 PM
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| For me, it depends on how much of a love scene...if it were something along the lines of how they did The Kiss - although not to the same magnitude since Alice and Uncas are sort like secondary main characters - then I say put it in. If it surpassed The Kiss...I'd go for a deleted scene in the bonus material. |
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Posted - February 01 2003 : 7:37:23 PM
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I have to go with 'deleted scene only'.
Since it was shot, I wanna see it.
But I think a secondary love story would only be distracting--Hawkeye and Cora are quite enough.
After all, how much mushy stuff can a guy take in one movie? |
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 12:46:17 PM
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Originally posted by daire
For me, it depends on how much of a love scene...if it were something along the lines of how they did The Kiss - although not to the same magnitude since Alice and Uncas are sort like secondary main characters - then I say put it in. If it surpassed The Kiss...I'd go for a deleted scene in the bonus material.
Oh, yes!! Loved "The Kiss" scene! But from what I remember reading in the script here on this site, it sounds as though the scene between Alice and Uncas in the cave under the waterfall... went much farther than that!
I agree with you, Scott, a major focus on another love story would take away from the beauty of the relationship that Cora and Nathaniel had. I rather liked the way Uncas' unrequited love was presented. He loved her enough to die for her. (Sniff, sniff) But she did not return it.
Oh! I just noticed! I am no longer the Lone Gunman! Someone else agrees with me! |
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Posted - February 15 2003 : 9:31:36 PM
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| I agree with Wilderness Woman. Hawkeye and Cora are the central love story, and I think it should remain that way. |
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Posted - February 19 2003 : 12:46:57 AM
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And representing the otherside. I think it should have been in the movie. I dont think it would have taken anything away from Cora and Hawkeye. Having both in the movie, would have presented two different love stories. Each with it's own special quality.
Wilderness Woman, I disagree with you. I think Alice did return Uncas love. This was illustrated in her lovers leap from the cliff after Uncas was murdered.
Scott, I do feel for you, regarding 'mushy stuff' though i would venture that women watch more 'heman' movies than guys watch 'mushy' movies all to please that special man in their lives.
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Posted - February 19 2003 : 07:18:16 AM
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Scott, I do feel for you, regarding 'mushy stuff' though i would venture that women watch more 'heman' movies than guys watch 'mushy' movies all to please that special man in their lives.
Sunshine,
Perhaps we watch those 'heman' movies because of the "heman"! 
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Posted - February 20 2003 : 3:57:37 PM
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Hah, Theresa! This is true!  I'm guilty as well. But, I like to think I enjoy a good he-man movie as well as a good 'mushy' movie. You'll find me in line for movies like Armageddon/Black Hawk Down/Swordfish to Ever After/Kate & Leopold/Princess Bride, etc., alike. |
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Posted - February 24 2003 : 4:12:06 PM
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I thing that the "love" scene should have been included. This is because I believe Alice did return Uncas' love.
It is important that Alice and Uncas' love be shown because it would make the death of Uncas even more poignant and tragic. How you may ask ? It would make his death more poignant because his death happens just as Uncas finds one he truly loves who loves him back. The fact that Uncas finds one he truly loves gives us hope that there will be a new generation with Mohican blood in it, that the Mohican blood line will be carried to a next generation. Alice and Uncas getting together gives us hope that that title of the movie "last of the mohicans" will not be fulfilled, that Chingachgook won't truly be the last blood Mohican left at the end of the movie. So I believe in this way that there is merit in showing the "love" scene between Alice and Uncas because it would strengthen and show more powerfully and evidently their love and make Uncas' death more tragic and make a greater impact of the reality in the end that aside from Chingachgook there are no other blood Mohicans left to carry on the Mohican blood line.
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And representing the otherside. I think it should have been in the movie. I dont think it would have taken anything away from Cora and Hawkeye. Having both in the movie, would have presented two different love stories. Each with it's own special quality.
Wilderness Woman, I disagree with you. I think Alice did return Uncas love. This was illustrated in her lovers leap from the cliff after Uncas was murdered.
Scott, I do feel for you, regarding 'mushy stuff' though i would venture that women watch more 'heman' movies than guys watch 'mushy' movies all to please that special man in their lives.
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Posted - April 20 2003 : 04:24:52 AM
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| I definitely believe the scene should be added because it would make it a little bit more believable as to why Alice took a dive off of the cliff for Uncas. Not to mention that he is so hot and it would be awesome to see him make a steamy love scene! I have to admit that I am partial to Uncas though. In response to the reply from Lurking Huron I have to disagree about the mohican blood line being carried on by Alice and Uncas. She is not Mohican therefore the true blood of the Mohicans would disappear with the death of chingachgook. That is just my opinion though! |
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Posted - May 26 2003 : 07:42:44 AM
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| I will definitely love to see more footage of Uncas and Alice. Afterall, the title of the movie is The Last of the Mohicans, so Uncas's story should be the focal point of the movie. |
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Posted - May 28 2003 : 02:39:34 AM
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| At first i put "Yes" but then after reading everyone's posts, i'd have to change my mind to "As a deleted scenes extra only." I have decided this because it would make the uncut version so much better and more people will want to buy it. |
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Posted - July 27 2003 : 9:54:08 PM
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In regards to the Uncas and Alice Love scene, I belive that there should of been a kiss shown between them,but mabey not a full out love scene. It seems odd to me though, that Uncas and Alice had a full out love scene, but Hawkeye and Cora didn't? If Hawkeye and Cora were suppost to be the main love story than the writer or director should have made a full out love scene for them and more of a kissing scene for Alice and Uncas (especially scince Alice and Uncas were supost to be younger). I think there needed to be at least a kiss between Uncas and Alice because to some people I belive the so called "feelings" between them two were unclear the first time you watch the movie. It really isn't untill you see the film a second time that the romance is more clear and the ending makes more scence. I do belive one of the main reasons that the love scene was not in the movie is because of Jodhi May's mother. At the time of the filming of TLOTM Jodhi May who plays Alice was only 16 or 17 years old and her mother was present on set most of the time. In order for minors to do a love scene like that, there parents must concent and I belive her mother objected to the love scene and that is one of the main reasons why it did not appear in the movie.  |
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Posted - July 29 2003 : 12:04:00 PM
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Please see the discussion at:
Carrying on the Mohican Tribe http://www.mohicanpress.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1013
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Originally posted by chasis_22
I definitely believe the scene should be added because it would make it a little bit more believable as to why Alice took a dive off of the cliff for Uncas. Not to mention that he is so hot and it would be awesome to see him make a steamy love scene! I have to admit that I am partial to Uncas though. In response to the reply from Lurking Huron I have to disagree about the mohican blood line being carried on by Alice and Uncas. She is not Mohican therefore the true blood of the Mohicans would disappear with the death of chingachgook. That is just my opinion though!
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Posted - August 01 2003 : 04:24:01 AM
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Eric Schweig said there was a kissing scene between Uncas and Alice. In the interview Russell Means also mentioned the Uncas/Alice scenes that were cut (quote from RM interview: [And the scenes they cut about Uncas and his relationship with the white woman. There were more scenes in there, you know like LOOKS.])
Some of the comments in the washingtonpost review, like
[...Indeed the movie sets new standards when it comes to pent-up passion between not only Cora and Hawkeye, but also between Alice and Uncas, who have their own bodices to burst. The four of them look into the camera with such a burning yearning, it's amazing the lens didn't melt all over the sets...]
and her closing sentence: [And apparently those Mohicans were some good kissers.] makes me think that she may have seen the original version that includes all the looks and the kiss between
Uncas and Alice. I may be wrong though. |
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Posted - September 26 2003 : 12:38:33 AM
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| I voted for "as a deleted scene only". Obviously we'd all like to see every second of film that was shot but as a fan of the books it would be too much of a departure. None of the main characters did the "freak" in any of the novels. It was obviously implied, Uncas was born so Chingachgook and Hist must have, but nowhere was it written about. You were lucky to get an emotional embrace, let alone full blown boot-knockin'. A little bit more Jodhi May would definitely be acceptable and I'm sure the ladies wouldn't mind some more Eric Schweig. |
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Posted - November 03 2003 : 10:37:31 PM
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| I voted for the deleted scene just because I'd like to see what the director had in mind. However, I like the way the movie was shot; the embrace shared behind the waterfall...leaves something to the imagination. |
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Posted - November 06 2003 : 5:04:44 PM
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| Now that I have thought about it, I change my vote to a deleted scene. I always love snooping around the deleted scenes after I have watched a movie. With the Uncas and Alice thing as a deleted scene or extra you still get to see the entire movie the way Mann felt was best, and then you get to see the extra stuff and make your own opinion on the director's choice to not add those specific scenes. |
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