| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
MaguasBastardChild
Pathfinder
Warning:
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
October 18 2007
Status: offline
|
 Posted - October 19 2007 : 3:40:36 PM
|
|
Did hawkeyes buddy that got hawkeye almost hanged for escpaing the fort ever make it? I thought i saw him getting hacked up by the indians when they (the train of people from the fort) got ambushed. Furthermore, since Magua got killed, was the killing of the innocent frontiersman families going to stop? Was magua the catalyst to all that since Hawkeye told the general about what was happening?
|
|
report to moderator
|
|
|
winglo
Deerslayer
USA
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
July 13 2007
Status: offline
Donating Member |
Posted - October 19 2007 : 3:47:20 PM
|
My understanding is that once Magua was killed no one would be going after Col. Monro's daughter's anymore. I didn't get the sense that this would stop the killing of settlers on the frontier. In fact, I don't think that's what Magua was about. He was after Col. Monro and his daughters for revenge.
I think you are speaking of Jack Winthrop when you mentioned Hawkeye's friend. I got the sense that he got away from the fort o.k., since when he was being arrested Hawkeye told Chingachgook that he helped "Jack and the others leave." |
report to moderator  |
|
|
MaguasBastardChild
Pathfinder
Warning:
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
October 18 2007
Status: offline
|
Posted - October 19 2007 : 7:34:58 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by winglo
My understanding is that once Magua was killed no one would be going after Col. Monro's daughter's anymore. I didn't get the sense that this would stop the killing of settlers on the frontier. In fact, I don't think that's what Magua was about. He was after Col. Monro and his daughters for revenge.
I think you are speaking of Jack Winthrop when you mentioned Hawkeye's friend. I got the sense that he got away from the fort o.k., since when he was being arrested Hawkeye told Chingachgook that he helped "Jack and the others leave."
It seemed Magua was purposely pissing off the settlers to stir up the English, and to make his French buddies stronger. I thought he was acting as his own renegade indian commander doing this but that didnt represent the other indians on the frontier, nor his tribe. I do agree with Maguas actions, he had reason to be pissed off. Its too bad he didnt live. I like when the 'bad' guys live or win in the end, like good the bad and the ugly , when Tuco (really a bad guy) but the ugly. gets half the loot at the end |
| report to moderator |
|
|
Light of the Moon
Mohicanland Statesman
USA
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
December 18 2004
Status: offline
|
Posted - October 20 2007 : 1:09:56 PM
|
Interesting point. Never really crossed my mind that Magua would use that tactic to help stir up trouble for the french.
Well done, MBC. Lots of Magua threads. Nice change! |
I live in my own little world - but that's okay, they know me here! |
| report to moderator |
|
|
TomBowie
Lost in the Wilderness
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
November 23 2007
Status: offline
|
Posted - November 23 2007 : 5:06:34 PM
|
| I'm pretty sure that the settler you are thinking of isn't Jack Winthrop. It's one of the colonials who says "Got no families 'cap. Figured we'd stay and lend a hand." That's the guy who gets killed later in the massive ambush. They do look similar, though. |
| report to moderator |
|
|
RedFraggle
Mohicanite
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
October 13 2006
Status: offline
|
Posted - November 24 2007 : 11:45:45 PM
|
Welcome to the board, TomBowie! Happy posting.  |
| report to moderator |
|
|
Steve S
Pathfinder
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
February 05 2005
Status: offline
|
Posted - November 25 2007 : 3:59:05 PM
|
As I recall,(and I'm talking historically,not book or novel),when the French natives killed the injured in the hospital(not shown),they managed to pick up smallpox which spread rapidly amongst them,counting most of them out for the rest of that years' campaign...in fact they never gathered to the French flag in such numbers again.
Steve
|
| report to moderator |
|
|
Fitzhugh Williams
Mohicanland Statesman
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
July 17 2005
Status: offline
|
Posted - November 25 2007 : 4:45:51 PM
|
| When Montcalm accepted the surrender and granted the terms he did, the Indians felt betrayed. Without their plunder, there was no reason for them to fight. The next year at Carillon (Ticonderoga) only 16 Indians fought with him. So the word has gone out for next summer, "which 16 of you get to be with the French?". |
"Les deux pieds contre la muraille et la tete sous le robinet" |
| report to moderator |
|
|
Hawkeye_Joe
Colonial Militia
USA
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
July 31 2003
Status: offline
|
Posted - November 25 2007 : 8:19:06 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by Steve S
As I recall,(and I'm talking historically,not book or novel),when the French natives killed the injured in the hospital(not shown),they managed to pick up smallpox which spread rapidly amongst them,counting most of them out for the rest of that years' campaign...in fact they never gathered to the French flag in such numbers again.
Steve
They dug up many of the bodies on the fort's cemetary and scalped them. Being that many were smallpox victims they contracted the disease and carried it back to the tribes. Also in one of the first recorded instances of germ warfare Gen. Amherst sent smallpox infected blankets to the Indian tribes as gifts.. |
HAWK
"The scum of every nation gravitates to the frontier."
Benjamin Franklin 1750
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin 1759
The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."
"Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."
|
| report to moderator |
|
|
Wilderness Woman
Watcher of the Wood
USA
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
November 27 2002
Status: offline
Donating Member |
Posted - November 28 2007 : 12:28:18 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams
When Montcalm accepted the surrender and granted the terms he did, the Indians felt betrayed. Without their plunder, there was no reason for them to fight. The next year at Carillon (Ticonderoga) only 16 Indians fought with him. So the word has gone out for next summer, "which 16 of you get to be with the French?".
 I'll wager you will have far more than that number fighting on your side, Fitz! Fort Ti is a very popular event with your Indian allies. Trust me... they sing and dance well into the night on Saturday evening... |
"It is more deeply stirring to my blood than any imaginings could possibly have been." |
| report to moderator |
|
|
Fitzhugh Williams
Mohicanland Statesman
Bumppo's Patron since [at least]:
July 17 2005
Status: offline
|
Posted - November 28 2007 : 3:30:28 PM
|
| If the "Rule of 16" is enforced (which I can't imagine it will be) the Sauvage have said they will sit on top of Mt. Defiance and watch the battle, as this is historically correct! |
"Les deux pieds contre la muraille et la tete sous le robinet" |
| report to moderator |
|
| |
Topic |
|
![The Mohican Board! [Bumppo's Redux!]](images/wwwboard.gif "The Mohican Board! [Bumppo's Redux!]")
Do we know what happened to the friend who escaped the fort?
