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Fitzhugh Williams
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 Posted - August 06 2007 : 11:56:56 AM
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I just looked at the extended forecast for Crown Point, NY (for GE III) and the highs up there are the same as the lows where I live. I guess that means wool blankets again!
It's supposed to hit 100 this afternoon. I have been waiting for it to warm up a little so I can cut the grass.
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 12:46:07 PM
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Hey Fitz, I split your post off of the other thread and started this new topic. I figure we will be discussing this event even after it is over.
Yes, you should be prepared for just about any weather up in the Wilderness of the New York Colony! I would, however, be pretty surprised if we got any snow. But with lows of 50 at night, you will definitely want your wool blankets. However, the daytime highs of mid-70s are just about perfect!
Now, if we can just keep the thunderstorms away. Believe me when I say that you ain't seen nothing until you've seen a North Country Thunderboomer! They can be mighty spectacular, and very scary when you are laying in your little wedge tent wondering if it is going to stay put around you, and hoping those little metal pins poking out of the top will act as good lightening rods.
When are you leaving and how long will the drive take you? |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 3:04:36 PM
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| I am leaving very early Thrusday AM. I figure the drive will be about 15 hours, so I will probably have to set up at night. I plan to take 81 to Binghamton, then 80 over to Albany ("We'll go to Albany!"), then 87 to the Crown Point area. MapQuest gives a different route to 87, but that goes way to close to New York City for me. I made it to Oswego in under 14 hours last year. This doesn't look to be too much further. |
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 4:27:20 PM
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This was probably just a typo, but after you hit Binghamton, you will be taking I-88, not 80. That's the same way I will go, but not until Friday afternoon. I can tell you, if it helps any, that it takes me 4 hours from Binghamton to get to Fort Ti, and Crown Point is only about 10 miles farther north.
I always look forward to that drive up I-88. It is an especially beautiful one.
That's a long drive for you, and one that I wouldn't want to attempt in a day. |
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 4:31:52 PM
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Btw, if you have never done so, and the weather is good with no haze, I would highly recommend that you take some time to drive to the top of Mt. Defiance, overlooking Fort Ti. The view is absolutely incredible. And it is so neat to stand there as Robert Rogers did, looking down on the fort, and imagining........
Just be aware that the road to the top is only open from 9 AM to 5 PM. They close the gate. Of course you could hike up, but it is quite a way and very steep. |
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 4:49:35 PM
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| Make sure you both take some pictures, - especially ones at the tavern. ;) Seriously, post them, will make an interesting post. BTW, - hiking up there is the only way to go. ;) |
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 6:46:18 PM
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Yeah.... if you want to have a coronary!  I'm telling you, MG, it is really steep. Yeah, I know... not for an experienced hiker like you! It would take me all day, with frequent rests, to reach the top.
Here is a little taste of what Robert Rogers saw...
This is looking down the southern tip of Lake Champlain. Vermont is on the left side and New York is on the right.
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This is a view of Fort Ticonderoga, taken with a telephoto lense. In reality, it is just about a mile from the top of the mountain to the fort. And yes, cannon balls could travel that trajectory, and did.
And, again, Vermont is on the other side. I repeat... what a spectacular view! I could spend all day up there.
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Posted - August 06 2007 : 7:45:36 PM
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| That's good looking country WW, - I can see why you could easily spend all day up there. I'm sure your hiking skills are just fine, - might just need a practice. It really would be interesting to see it as the frontier it really was at one time. Much of the country around here is similar, - especially up in the "lakes region". Fort No. 4 for example. ... BTW - Vermont's been on the left for a looong time, in more ways than one. ;) |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - August 07 2007 : 12:10:28 AM
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Btw, if you have never done so, and the weather is good with no haze, I would highly recommend that you take some time to drive to the top of Mt. Defiance, overlooking Fort Ti. The view is absolutely incredible. And it is so neat to stand there as Robert Rogers did, looking down on the fort, and imagining........
Just be aware that the road to the top is only open from 9 AM to 5 PM. They close the gate. Of course you could hike up, but it is quite a way and very steep.
I have been thinking about staying over Sunday night, then visiting Fort Carillon the next day. Maybe hit Lac Sacrement and Fort WH, then head south. Drive to somewhere around Maryland and then go to Fort Necessity the next day. And Fort Frederick.
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Not from my point of view!!! |
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Posted - August 07 2007 : 12:42:41 PM
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I don't remember if you have said before, Fitz, but have you ever been up that way at all? I know you went to Fort Oswego last summer, but have you ever been to Fort Ti? If not, you are in for a treat.
And yes, by all means, drive down along Lake George. As we've talked about before, it is a real beauty. Just don't be dismayed when you come to Lake George village. We've hashed this out before and I don't want to open up old wounds with some folks. Just look past it for the true beauty of the region. |
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Posted - August 07 2007 : 1:43:56 PM
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I have not been to the Lake Champlain region before, so I want to do a little sight seeing. Some folks from this area go to Niagara and Ticonderoga in June each year. They spend the week in between at a relative's house in the mountains. But these events come just before a major Rev War event in this area, Huck's Defeat at Historic Brattonsville, and every year Hawkeye Joe gets shot out of his saddle. I can't miss that. And just before that is my wedding anniversary, so I have to make some allowances there too. But next year, I plan to be at Ticonderoga for the 250th. Or rather Carillon.
So next year there is the Gathering, Ticonderoga, Brattonsville, Louisbourg. Busy summer. |
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Posted - August 07 2007 : 6:27:05 PM
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| Well, I certainly can't suggest anything on Fort Ti etc, - but if you're going to the Lake Champlain region, I'd say the late summer or early fall is a great time to be there. Of course that may not fit with any events you want to attend. The days tend to be clear & dry, the nights tend to be nice 'n cool ... |
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Posted - August 07 2007 : 7:12:35 PM
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~ chuckling ~ Well, you and I both might enjoy the cooler nights of the northeast, MG, but I'm not too certain Fitz will! Didn't he mention something about bringing a bunch of wool blankets?  Personally, I think it's going to be great sleeping weather at this event.
Fitz, the 250th next year at... OK... I'll give you this one, much as it pains me... Fort Carillon... is promising to be great. You won't believe the preparations they have been and are making for this event. This is going to be good!
OK. If anyone is confused, here is a brief explanation: when the fort Fitz and I have been discussing was in the hands of the French (who built it), it was called Fort Carillon. When the French abandoned it, and blew up the powder magazine, in 1759, the British took possession and renamed it Fort Ticonderoga. So, for the 250th anniversary next year of the "Battle of Carillon", which took place in 1758... I will grudgingly call it Fort Carillon.
Another sidenote of particular interest to we fans of the movie: Fort Carillon (Fort Ticonderoga) was the base from which Montcalm launched his attack and seige of Fort William Henry in 1757. |
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Posted - August 07 2007 : 11:39:36 PM
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we will be leaving southeastern, pa around 8am thursday for crown point. looks like they are going to keep us quite busy over the weekend. we are going to stay over sunday night. ill be in no shape to drive sunday night. we might head to carillon monday for some poking around, depends on what the others in our party want to do. i assume the french camp will be like always, set up whearever you like. fitz, ill seek you out sometime over the weekend,i saw the pics from oswego so i have a good idea who iam looking for. now its time to get ready.
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 02:06:14 AM
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I have been thinking about staying over Sunday night, then visiting Fort Carillon the next day. Maybe hit Lac Sacrement and Fort WH, then head south. Drive to somewhere around Maryland and then go to Fort Necessity the next day. And Fort Frederick.
You should consider visiting Fort Chambly, it's only a couple of hours away, and where you'll be at, you don't have to drive through Montral to get there. Plus, you can visit the Unibroue brewery and bring me back a case of my favorite beer. 
And you can still drive into Canada without a passport.
Oh yeah, visit Jackie's Bar in Chambly. The female bartenders like to squirt whip cream on each other and...
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 08:31:42 AM
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Yes, MG, that is a great website. I have explored that one many times. I especially like seeing the old photos of the ruins of the fort. Thank Heaven for the Pell Family and their dedication to restoring and preserving it.
Btw, I am sure that last sentence that Grenouille wrote has succeeded in taking all attention away from historic forts and beautiful lakes... at least the attention of the males on these boards! Hmmmmmmm???? |
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 10:23:01 AM
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| Would that NOT be a historic event? Definitely something to be fondly remembered. Wonder if Jackies Bar and whatever - is somehow a modern day version of a French Tavern? Perhaps Fitz could "enlighten" us on this matter? ;) |
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 12:23:11 PM
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Wonder if Jackies Bar and whatever - is somehow a modern day version of a French Tavern?
 Hahahahaha!!! Very good, MG! Very good! Well, it is, after all, in Quebec!
I'm sure that Fitz is changing his travel plans, even as we speak! |
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 12:28:20 PM
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| Thank Gawd for Map Quest - no doubt the route with the possible shortest time. |
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 1:35:21 PM
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i assume the french camp will be like always, set up wherever you like.
Actually, there is a layout for the entire camp, including the milice, with specific areas assigned to each unit. I guess we will see if that holds up. The reason I know is that I am an officer. Really! Since I am the only one from my unit coming, I am the unit commander So I get all the correspondence. However, when I get there, I plan to find a unit and attach myself to it. Probably Dave Bayer's. Although his name has been removed from the command structure. I hope he is OK. |
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 1:46:30 PM
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Chambly seems to be in the wrong direction. That one might have to wait a while. So many places, so little time.
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 1:56:12 PM
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| Fitz, if you can't hook up with the group you mentioned, you might try La Reine. I think the commander is Mike Malecki, but not sure. Ed Dammer, who is also a member of the 3rd PA (Augusta) Regiment, is supposed to be there with La Reine. |
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Posted - August 08 2007 : 10:33:56 PM
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| Yeah, but La Reine is Troupes de Terre and I am milice, so won't work. The overall commander of the milice is Louis Valiquette, and I know him, so no problem. |
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Posted - August 09 2007 : 7:41:50 PM
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| Fitz, please look for Diane & me at Crown Point Saturday morning. I am with Les Troupes de la Pointe a la Chevelure (Scalp or Crown Point)-.I won't be there very long because I have to be elsewhere for the rest of the weekend-(Lake George). I will also be hanging around with Bob & Holly Bearor who will have a set-up. I'd like very much to meet you. Mike Malecki is the commander of La Reine. Don't worry about the weather...It aint winter. Montcalm's relative is here in Lk. Geo tonight..Dressed as the Marquis. I have had to do a portrait of Montcalm and there is a resemblance. Lots going on leading up to the massacre in September. Regards... |
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Posted - August 09 2007 : 11:11:59 PM
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Tim,
Fitz left early Thursday, per his message way above, so I doubt he had the chance to read your message. You will probably have to look him up, instead.
Just thought you would want to know. |
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