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Posted - July 11 2007 :  4:14:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wallace Beery as Magua? Lon Chaney,Jr. as Chingachgook? Graham Greene as Chingachgook? Steven Forrest as a bearded Hawkeye? Lee Horseley as Hawkeye?

Who gets your vote?? Add more if you have other favorite bad choices..


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Posted - July 11 2007 :  7:07:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
How about Dennis Rodman as Magua?
Cindy Crawford as Cora?
Pamela Anderson as Alice (Lord, I'd love to see her jump)!
Hillary Clinton as Col. Monroe!

Sorry, couldn't help it!

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  7:24:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ok my opinion must be stated and no killing me ladies.

Orlando Bloom as Hawkeye Ok I think that covers most of it. Whoops missed

Johnny Depp as a funny looking Magua

Ok. I will leave it at that for now.

There are easier things in life then trying to find a good guy..... Nailing jelly to a tree for example.
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Bruce Willis as Hawkeye? Samuel L Jackson as Magua? John Travolta as Uncas?
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Chris Farley as Hawkeye, David Spade as Uncas..........need I say more!

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Daniel Craig as Hawkeye with Sean Connerry as his papi Chingy and Harry Potter himself Daniel Radcliffe as Uncas. Let's stay English and go with Emma Watson as Alice and Kiera Knightley as Cora. Magua would be played by Capt. Kirk himself William Shatner and the Sachem could be Leonard Nimoy.

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Originally posted by Irishgirl

Daniel Craig as Hawkeye with Sean Connerry as his papi Chingy and Harry Potter himself Daniel Radcliffe as Uncas. Let's stay English and go with Emma Watson as Alice and Kiera Knightley as Cora. Magua would be played by Capt. Kirk himself William Shatner and the Sachem could be Leonard Nimoy.





My, My, what a crew you imagined up!!!! I would pay to see that!!

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:09:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Think I would join you blackfoot

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:20:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My list was of actors who really played those roles.......

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"Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:33:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit RedFraggle's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Oh, drat. And I was thinking of even crazier possibilities than Irish's crew.

Ah well. I guess I'd have to go with Lee Horseley as Hawkeye, plus Lynda Carter as his love interest. *YAWN!* That show put me to sleep every time I tried to watch it. What a wimpy hawkeye!

Next vote goes to these goobers. They're supposed to be menacing Hurons. I think the one guy is actually sticking his tongue out!

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  11:00:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I have to go with Cheech Marin as Magua...Unbeatable

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... Magua would be played by Capt. Kirk himself William Shatner and the Sachem could be Leonard Nimoy.

Now just a minute, Irish! The character of Magua needs to be played by an actor. Wes Studi is an actor; William Shatner (past tense?) is a ... uh ... Canadian!
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Next vote goes to these goobers. They're supposed to be menacing Hurons. I think the one guy is actually sticking his tongue out!


Looks like a scene out of a bad Tarzan movie.


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Unfortunately, Joe, I don't think you're going to be able to turn this thread in the direction you want it to go.

I haven't seen any of the versions/actors you list, so I can't offer an opinion on the worst of those. I have seen the 1936 version, however, and I like it very much. Yes, I like Randolph Scott as Hawkeye, Binnie Barnes as Cora and Bruce Cabot as Magua. I think they were, for the times, very well cast and their parts were well acted.

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LOL, Red!!!! This picture made my morning! What a group of goobers indeed!!!


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Unfortunately, Joe, I don't think you're going to be able to turn this thread in the direction you want it to go.

I haven't seen any of the versions/actors you list, so I can't offer an opinion on the worst of those. I have seen the 1936 version, however, and I like it very much. Yes, I like Randolph Scott as Hawkeye, Binnie Barnes as Cora and Bruce Cabot as Magua. I think they were, for the times, very well cast and their parts were well acted.



And don't forget Heather Angel as Alice. Yes .. I can see that. The point was lost in the first reply. You really should look up some of the others just for the entertainment value of how they were done back before "our" LOTM was filmed. I'm going to buy the LOTM serials. Though I think Lon Chaney,Jr. should always be remembered as "The Wolfman"...I'd like to see him as Chingachgook...

Geez I just found this... Harry Carey played Hawkeye too..!!!




Here's the version with Lon Chaney.. and John (Lone Ranger) Hart as Hawkeye


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... Magua would be played by Capt. Kirk himself William Shatner and the Sachem could be Leonard Nimoy.

Now just a minute, Irish! The character of Magua needs to be played by an actor. Wes Studi is an actor; William Shatner (past tense?) is a ... uh ... Canadian!



Obi, I like the Shat I grew up with the Capt. we all did and as for acting can't go wrong with Bill and his over-acting sometimes.

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I believe that Wm. Shatner "Shat Happens" was super lucky to be in the right place at the right time (sorta like that dimwit who sleepwalked through his lines as Anakin Skywalker)--he couldn't hold a candle acting-wise the the original choice for the Enterprise's captain, Jeffrey Hunter (who played Capt. Christopher Pike in the pilot episode). Sadly, IIRC, Hunter had a bad problem with the bottle & fell down the stairs in his home & died from his injuries.

Man, talk about hijacking a thread! From miscast actors in LOTM to Wm. Shatner! Hijack Happens!
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OK, let's take a step back to the first hijack...here's my list of miscasts (kinda like outcasts):

HAWKEYE...Nicholas Cage
CHINGACHGOOK...Robert DiNiro
UNCAS...Arnold Schwartzenegger (ooh, I can hear the screams & gnashing of teeth now)
CORA...Madonna
ALICE...Christina Ricci
MAGUA...Jack Nicholson
DUNCAN...Leonardo DiCaprio
COL. MUNRO...William Shatner (just for you, Irish)
MONTCALM...Gerard Depardieu (well, he's French)
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Posted - July 12 2007 :  1:22:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit RedFraggle's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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OK, let's take a step back to the first hijack...here's my list of miscasts (kinda like outcasts): . . . UNCAS...Arnold Schwartzenegger

Or how about Arnie as Magua? In the ambush as everyone is leaving the fort, we can have him knock Col. Munro off his horse, then declare, "I'll be back" before rushing off to create more carnage.

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Looks like a scene out of a bad Tarzan movie.

Ummm...is there such a thing as a "good" Tarzan movie? Check out the one with Casper van Dien. Maybe he could be our new Hawkeye. HA!

quote:
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Geez I just found this... Harry Carey played Hawkeye too..!!!

Is Mr. Carey wearing a turtleneck under his buckskin shirt? Looks like it to me. And I love the look on his face!
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I gotta agree with RedFraggle.
Arnie as Magua with the "I'll be back!" line would be the worst. Funny as hell mind you!

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Oh, drat. And I was thinking of even crazier possibilities than Irish's crew.

Ah well. I guess I'd have to go with Lee Horseley as Hawkeye, plus Lynda Carter as his love interest. *YAWN!* That show put me to sleep every time I tried to watch it. What a wimpy hawkeye!

Next vote goes to these goobers. They're supposed to be menacing Hurons. I think the one guy is actually sticking his tongue out!

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wow, i'm really SCARED now....

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My list was of actors who really played those roles.......



Well that guy Philip Madoc who played Magua in the 1973 Mini-Series was not a great choice. Pretty stiff and Shakespearian if you ask me. The choice for Uncas was not much better. At least get an Indian to play an Indian

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Get an Indian to play an Indian? My! What a novel idea!

With the exception of Jay Silverheels (Tonto), it was extremely rare to find a real Indian playing an Indian up until about 1990. As far as I can recall, Dances With Wolves was pretty much the first movie that used Native Americans in major roles. Then, of course, LOTM came right afterward. Even Iron Eyes Cody, who played small parts in a number of movie Westerns in the 50s, was not a real Indian! He sure looked like one, but he wasn't. He was... are you ready? A full-blooded Italian-American! I was devastated when I found that out. All of my childhood and until just recently, I would have sworn that he was a real Indian.

IG, I think that Philip Madoc tried very hard to act fierce. The problem is that he doesn't look fierce. He is too good-looking, and much too Anglo looking to make a good, scary Magua!

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An italian playing a NA. Nothing new for that era. Glad I was too young to witness it!

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With the exception of Jay Silverheels (Tonto), it was extremely rare to find a real Indian playing an Indian up until about 1990.


Remember the 1976 movie "The Outlaw Josie Wales"? With Chief Dan Geroge? At the 2004 Gathering Russell Means said that was one of his favorite movies because of Chief Dan Geroge's role in it.


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