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Hawkeye_Joe
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:06:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone here seen the website where they made the bodies of the Cameron children that were not used in the movie?

Originally they were going to show a horrible scene with the boy's burned mutilated bodies.....

I've found photos of them but I won't post them witout warning because they are so shocking.

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:46:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yes they are very shocking believe me.

I saw some of them and it is just like *wow* glad i knew they weren't real.

There are easier things in life then trying to find a good guy..... Nailing jelly to a tree for example.
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  12:22:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You say they are on a web site? Can you post the link?


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Posted - July 11 2007 :  12:29:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yeah, I'd like to gawk at it too.

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  12:56:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit RedFraggle's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My thoughts exactly, Fitz and Light! Maybe it's gross, but I'd like to have a look too. And I don't exactly want to do a Google Image search for "burned children" to find it.
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  2:00:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The makeup people were very good Here is one pic of Wes Studi's arm after Russell Means got through with it:
http://www.vincentguastiniproductions.com/MOARM&ME.jpg

here's a close-up:
http://www.vincentguastiniproductions.com/MOARM.jpg

Here is a link to the body (WARNING):
http://www.vincentguastiniproductions.com/MOBOD.jpg
http://www.vincentguastiniproductions.com/mohicans%20body1.jpg

Here is an other link to a different make-up artist's site with images of some of the wounded and dead from LOTM.

http://mistyfalls.com/php3/images2/lom-makeup/

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Benjamin Franklin 1750

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin 1759

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

"Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  3:23:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Very cool!!! I need these make-up artists at Halloween time!!

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  3:56:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Those were excellent make-up jobs. They looked so real. Thanks for posting the links Hawkeye Joe.

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  6:56:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
How gross/cool - whichever it is?

Awesome job though, looks very real!

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  7:09:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kyfrontiersman's Homepage  Send Kyfrontiersman an AOL message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ride along with Ohio State Patrol on a holiday weekend, if you care to see worse.

http://rumpingproductions.org/
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from obscurity to shine with splendor, equal to any other of the
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  7:23:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kyfrontiersman's Homepage  Send Kyfrontiersman an AOL message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
PhD dissertation by a grad student at WVU: "Indian Warfare, Household Competency, and the Settlement of the Western
Virginia Frontier, 1749 to 1794," by John M. Boback

Here is the link to it. It's over 200 pages long !

https://eidr.wvu.edu/files/5155/Boback_John_dissertation.pdf

http://rumpingproductions.org/
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quote:
Originally posted by Kyfrontiersman

Ride along with Ohio State Patrol on a holiday weekend, if you care to see worse.



Would not want to see the "real thing". Those were excellent make up jobs but the real deal would be too gross and upsetting for me to see.

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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:19:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit RedFraggle's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Thanks, Hawkeye Joe! Interesting pics.

Now I'm curious as to how and why someone would decide to get into the business of sculpting fake dead bodies. Seems like a strange hobby, no?

And maybe I'm weird, but I think the pics of the elbow are more gross than the body. Maybe because it's actually on a living person's arm? Always thought that elbow crack was the most painful-looking blow delivered in the movie. Don't know why, but it makes me shudder every time.
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  10:23:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Red. My opinion on the yuckiest is the third swing Hawkeye takes on the NA who was trying to take out Cora in the massacre scene.

Bone and metal meeting is not a pretty sound. *shudders*

There are easier things in life then trying to find a good guy..... Nailing jelly to a tree for example.
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Posted - July 11 2007 :  11:04:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Little Lady of Fire

Red. My opinion on the yuckiest is the third swing Hawkeye takes on the NA who was trying to take out Cora in the massacre scene.

Bone and metal meeting is not a pretty sound. *shudders*




I agree....That was quite a cool/gross "sound" altogether.

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Ewwww! Have to agree with ya LLOF!!

Oh, Red, the elbow wound is pretty gross. I will think of that everytime I wack my elbow of something hard and sharp.

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Posted - July 12 2007 :  09:27:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkeye_Joe

http://mistyfalls.com/php3/images2/lom-makeup/


Some of the "older" posters may remember that Christopher Johnson participated on these boards for a while about 3 years ago. (If I can find the thread, I will post the link to it.) Chris is a very talented young man who attended and graduated from the same high school near Binghamton as my two children. Chris is about 8 or so years older than my son, who is a friend of his and worked with him on one of his independent movies.

An update on Chris: as you can see by looking at this website, Chris is very active with his special effects make-up career in Hollywood. We are proud that his career roots began in Binghamton.

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Posted - July 12 2007 :  3:04:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Uggh!!
Geez those are seriously realistic photos of the bodies! Thanks for the post Hawkeye_Joe, never seen anything like that before.
The worst injury for me would be Magua's elebow wound though. I dislocated my elbow yrs ago and that was painfull and gross enough, can't imagine getting wacked with a war club(not sure what Ching's weapon was called) there...*uggg* makes me feel faint just thinking about it.
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Posted - July 12 2007 :  4:01:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Chingachgook's weapon was and is called a "Gunstock" war club. Not because it was made from a gunstock but because of it's shape.


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"The scum of every nation gravitates to the frontier."
Benjamin Franklin 1750

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin 1759

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

"Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."
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Posted - July 12 2007 :  6:24:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
And, to you, Colonial [Hawkeye] Joe ... welcome back. It's been a while!
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Posted - July 12 2007 :  6:27:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There are some Indians who refer to it as the "big blue hockey stick".


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Posted - July 13 2007 :  09:32:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams

There are some Indians who refer to it as the "big blue hockey stick".



Real Native Americans or N/A re-enactors? They can't deny that the things existed in several forms through out history....

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"The scum of every nation gravitates to the frontier."
Benjamin Franklin 1750

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin 1759

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

"Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."
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Posted - July 13 2007 :  09:36:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Oh they existed all right, but they were not three feet or more long and carried on a sling over the back.


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i believe hockey was called "shinney" back in the day.....
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Posted - July 14 2007 :  11:12:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kyfrontiersman's Homepage  Send Kyfrontiersman an AOL message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Anything for the movies, right Fitz?

http://rumpingproductions.org/
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Posted - July 17 2007 :  2:38:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
wow.......

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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