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sidony
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 Posted - October 04 2002 : 11:07:50 PM
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Does anyone else think that the scene where Duncan, Cora and Alice are having tea in a field (???) was awkwardly staged? I mean, what the heck are they doing having tea in the middle of nowhere? Wouldn't they have it at the barrack?
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Keneta
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Posted - October 05 2002 : 07:37:54 AM
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Yeah, I felt the same way. I felt that MM thought, "Humm, a lovely field. Instead of a picnic, however, I think a tea party would be more appropriate." I think maybe it was to show us the type of social background that Cora/Alice/Duncan had lived in for years. It was probably to prepare us to how each character would deal with the hardships they were about to encounter. At first Duncan was shown as a wussy little coward, Alice a terrified little child; Cora was always courageous, she could go from tea party to prisoner with the best of them; then Duncan proved himself a decent person by sacrificing himself for the woman he loved. Alice was always a tea party person, she was never able to adapt to the wilderness.
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richfed
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Posted - October 05 2002 : 09:44:50 AM
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Remember ... this was set in Albany - the city - not at the barracks. At the patroon's [or, was it Poltroon's????] house, as a matter of fact. Doesn't seem out of place, to me, at all.
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Keneta
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 Posted - October 05 2002 : 09:56:44 AM
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Well, Duncan wasn't a wussy, I should clarify that----he DID get out there and fight hard and bravely all the time. He was just a backstabbing, lying, butt-kisser, you know, we all have a Duncan or two or three at our work places, eh??????
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Ongewasgone
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Posted - October 05 2002 : 3:15:50 PM
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Sincerely, I like that scene. I know what you mean, Sidony, but you should consider that, however, a tea-party in that field it's not so bad in that particular situation...
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sidony
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Posted - October 05 2002 : 10:33:52 PM
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Richfed, what exactly is a Poltroon's house? By the way, I agree with you about Keneta's post. Keneta, thanks for a really interesting anad well-considered response to my question. I never thought of the scene that way, but now it makes sense. I like the way your mind works!
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - October 06 2002 : 08:56:25 AM
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Rich, I just noticed your only an "o" away from being a Patroon yourself!
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Pvt. Chauncey
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 10:37:03 PM
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Scott,
Don't forget that inside the barracks would have been (1) where the footsoldiers lived; (2) dark, crowded, and smelly; (3) inside, while it was obviously a very nice day out.
Also, along the lines of what everyone has already said about the patroon's house, the house would have been in fields. Albany was, afterall, in the wilderness of the western frontier.
Just another thought!
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 07:01:52 AM
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Originally posted by Pvt. Chauncey:
Scott,
Don't forget that inside the barracks would have been (1) where the footsoldiers lived; (2) dark, crowded, and smelly; (3) inside, while it was obviously a very nice day out.
Also, along the lines of what everyone has already said about the patroon's house, the house would have been in fields. Albany was, afterall, in the wilderness of the western frontier.
Just another thought!
YHOS,
Pvt. Chauncey
Hi, Pvt. Was that for Sidony?
Just another thought--the Poltroon's house was a center of power and authority of a system that predated even the British. As Keneta says, it establishes the characters' social background and enhances the contrast with the frontier folk.
I see Rich has gone to being Sachem.
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Mylene
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Posted - November 16 2002 : 12:27:44 AM
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Originally posted by Keneta
I felt that MM thought, "Humm, a lovely field. Instead of a picnic, however, I think a tea party would be more appropriate." I think maybe it was to show us the type of social background that Cora/Alice/Duncan had lived in for years. It was probably to prepare us to how each character would deal with the hardships they were about to encounter. At first Duncan was shown as a wussy little coward, Alice a terrified little child; Cora was always courageous, she could go from tea party to prisoner with the best of them; then Duncan proved himself a decent person by sacrificing himself for the woman he loved. Alice was always a tea party person, she was never able to adapt to the wilderness.
I completely agree with this. I know it was a while ago, but deal with it...I think that scene was meant for a transition from their normal lifestyle of tea and dressing up and what not, to one of blood and battles, with terror, fear, and anger. This also shows that no one can remain themselves in the midst of danger, and everyoen chances when times get rough, although you could almost never imagine someone as proper and "high strung" as Duncan to be involved in such a gory movie, eh? |
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Posted - November 17 2002 : 4:08:43 PM
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| LOL! you're right! I guess when theres danger around every turn, people become more intent on defense, survival, and the resources around them, and while everyone probably thinks back to the "good old days" you just have to grit your teeth and move on. Alice, on the other hand, never really realized that "hey! this is real!" and that its not just a bad dream, and you have to stop relying on someone else to protect you. For instance, when she jumps of the cliff, I think she realizes that theres no one left to protect her, and that she has no hope. Maybe if she had "come around" sooner, then she wouldn't have commit suicide. |
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Ithiliana
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Posted - November 22 2002 : 5:20:16 PM
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| hmmmmm...the field thing was really weird, but then again, think about it...all the houses were quatering troops, aka smelly dirty, cursing, brutal soldiers....who wants to have a picnic/tea in a place like that? |
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Vixen
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Posted - November 23 2002 : 12:19:40 PM
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| You have to think though, this was in the middle of a war, your resourses are kinda limited, so of course Duncan didn't want his dear Cora to witness to stuff like that, but it must have been funny to watch everyone moving the tables and things out into a field...I would have like to see that. |
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