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zinvor
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 Posted - June 21 2006 : 06:44:51 AM
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I think that Alice appeared to Uncas as the daughter that he and Alexandra might have had together. Or perhaps he viewed her as a younger sister to Alexandra, and thus a "sister" to him.
I think Uncas was too young to look at Alice as his daughter. More likely he appeared to Alexandra as the younger brother (if she didn't have something more on her mind of course). |
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Posted - June 21 2006 : 9:04:08 PM
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I agree with what you say MG but we want the release of a DVD with all the footage on it that was ever shot. Simple as that.
I believe that we well and truly deserve to see the scenes which were originally part of the film and are crucial for our understanding of the storyline!
If they cannot be included in the film, they should at least be made available in special features on DVD as it has been done with many other films out there. |
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LeyLana1462
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 09:57:47 AM
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Why Miss Bookworm! You are really ready to stand in front of the firing squad, aren't you? Got your blindfold on? 'Cause I hear the muskets being primed and loaded!
To answer your very brave question... Yes. I'm here. And I will join you in front of the firing squad any day. And just before the muskets are fired, I will say yet again: "There was no romance. Uncas was in love with Alice. Alice was not in love with Uncas."
Now................DUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Rich, where's the smiley aiming a musket at an innocent person?] 
You crack me up WW. Now, where DID I put that musket????
You were right to warm bookworm tho! hee hee
I've only just returned and to come in and see this OMG Shock! and Horror! Nothing for we Uncas/Alice fans to think about.......oh the pain, the pain |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 11:58:52 AM
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| With all due respect raindrops, - you're not entitled or deserve to see something "just because you want to". There are many "business costs" involved, and putting out a release for a handful of folks isn't likley to be profitable. After all is said and done, - making a buck is really what this film is about. ... ;) |
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MeggieD
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 12:18:37 PM
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| This is all true MG, but in my opinion a 15th anniversary Deluxe Director's Edition with a number of critical deleted scenes would sell enough to be profitable....how many of us on this board alone have the VHS, the origianl DVD, soundtracks and would STILL buy a copy if deleted scenes were included...I say it be very profitable.... |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 12:28:03 PM
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Anyway, from my perspective the key to the Uncas/Alice "relationship" rests with Alexandra Cameron.
I will agree with this statement, assuming your choice of the word "relationship" means that Uncas was interested in Alice but she did not reciprocate.
However, I do not agree with your next statement:
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I believe that Uncas and Alexandra were in love with each other, but kept that secret from the others. Uncas is quite affected by her death.
I do not think that Uncas and Alexandra were in love. I think that Uncas admired Alexandra, for both her friendship and for her beauty. Respect, admiration, yes. There may have even been a little bit of "oh, I wish she were mine" there. But love between the two of them? I saw none. He was quite affected by her death, because she was a good friend.
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I think that Alice appeared to Uncas as the daughter that he and Alexandra might have had together. Or perhaps he viewed her as a younger sister to Alexandra, and thus a "sister" to him.
Oh dear, no. Surely not a daughter. Uncas was not very many years older than Alice. Sister? I don't think so. Not from the way he looked at her in the River Walk scene. I think he saw her as beautiful, much as he saw the beauty in Alexandra as a person... not just as a woman.
I am really quite glad that Mann did take out the supposed "love scene" between Uncas and Alice under the waterfall. I think it would have been highly inappropriate to the story. How much better it is this way, with Uncas's unrequited love becoming quite literally the death of him.
[WW hikes up her petticoats and runs swiftly to the nearest tree for cover.] |
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MeggieD
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 12:39:32 PM
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| WW I agree with you...while my curiosity forces me to want to see the deleted scene I think it was a wise decision to delete it...it's much more bittersweet the way it is...it affects the viewer much more as an unrequited love.... |
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Irishgirl
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 1:51:50 PM
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| I disagree WW and Meg(shocked to hear you say this). I never understood why Uncas was so ready to sacrifice his own life for a girl he had barely even spoken to. This scene would have explained why he did the foolish death run up the cliffside at he end to try and save Alice. I only understood this when I heard about the deleted scene where they had shown a connection between Uncas/Alice. That made it all clear to me. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 2:03:15 PM
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I never understood why Uncas was so ready to sacrifice his own life for a girl he had barely even spoken to.
You've never heard of "Love at First Sight?" It happens. |
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 2:08:06 PM
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| sorry Irish.....I said I wanted to see it anyway, didn't I????? Climb down offa me, woman...heeheehee |
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Irishgirl
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 2:11:25 PM
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No, really, it leaves it up to the viewers imagination whether they had feelings for each other, or just him having feelings for her...sniff sniff
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Irishgirl
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 2:20:16 PM
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| Well I did not get it the first few times I saw it. Guess I must be "Dumb" then. It went way above my head. Wheee there it goes....... That scene would have shown us "slow" people that something was going on between Uncas and Alice. Men, in particular may have had a hard time understanding Uncas's foolish death run up the cliffs too for Alice a girl he barely knew. Don't mean to offend any guys out there so please don't jump all over me. |
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nekutmeqwanoc
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 2:33:36 PM
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| i saw it the first time i watched it when i was 12 years old.i dint see anything between alex and uncas rather than common respect and friendship.it seemed alice and uncas were the same age and had a little flirtation going between them.but who cares.we all have an opinion.still for those of you who have read the book,what does the book say really happened? |
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 2:42:18 PM
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| You're not dumb, silly....you've got great taste in men.....and in on-line friends....heehee |
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 3:50:21 PM
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You've never heard of "Love at First Sight?" It happens.
I agree, but Uncas hadn't been drinking.
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 4:26:37 PM
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| this is true, but judging from the pics from the bar, Eric was..... |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 5:05:52 PM
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| It's rather simple, - "Damsel in Distress" = possie charges to her rescue! After all, - being historically correct, no cars available for a chase scene. The young Mohican had to go, else there may not be any "Last Of The Mohicans", leaving the older one to wander the woods for awhile. |
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 7:14:22 PM
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With all due respect raindrops, - you're not entitled or deserve to see something "just because you want to".
With all due respect MG - no need to speak to me as if I was a child. I said it jokingly. |
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 7:25:09 PM
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You've never heard of "Love at First Sight?" It happens.
I agree, but Uncas hadn't been drinking.
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Posted - June 22 2006 : 7:29:06 PM
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You're not dumb, silly....you've got great taste in men.....and in on-line friends....heehee
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Posted - June 23 2006 : 02:01:31 AM
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| As for what happened in the book...us movie lovers would be quite surprised. I'll leave it to say that it was actually Uncas and Cora who were flirting...Duncan wanted Alice...and Hawkeye was not a romantic character at all. |
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Posted - June 23 2006 : 10:03:46 AM
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I'm different from whoever wrote that above of me. I really wish we had more info about the whole Uncas/Alice love thing before the plunge to the death ordeal. As much as I love Uncas, I must say though that his death scene at the end was rather emotional and affecting, good for hitting a soft spot in audiences. But I wish their love hadn't gone unrequited because of the way Uncas looked at and handled Alice, he deserved to be with her for a LONG TIME!!
UNCAS MUST LIVE!!!
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Posted - June 23 2006 : 4:13:27 PM
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| Well this is a one more thing what we could ask mr. Mann. In the book Uncas and Cora died, and if he wanted to do the movie based on the book he had to kill Uncas. And in the book Uncas and Cora died because of their love (or at least Uncas was in love with Cora, otherwise indian warrior would not do such things because of white woman)So from that I think that there was at least something going on with Alice and Uncas. |
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Posted - June 23 2006 : 5:40:05 PM
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| I have never read the book but I have to wonder why he did not make his movie true to the book. Would it not have been as exciting? I guess there was some kind of romance going on in the book or at least a hint of love. Guess he did not want to pair an Indian Uncas with a white woman Cora but just hinted at the Uncas/Alice thing. Cora seemed better paired up with Nathaniel. |
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