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Dark Woods
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 Posted - August 26 2002 : 12:11:09 AM
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Below are the presidential candidates that I voted for since I was of voting age.
1972 George McGovern Democrat
1976 Eugene McCarthy Independent
1980 Ronald Reagan* Republican
1984 Ronald Reagan* Republican
1988 George Bush* Republican
1992 Ross Perot Reform
1996 Bob Dole Republican
2000 Ralph Nader 
* means that I voted for the successful candidate.
(As strange as it may seem, I'm not certain whether Nader was Independent or Green. I will update his affiliation if that is clarified.)
Perhaps a few others are willing to confess their past presidential predilictions. I would suspect that my voting pattern is rather more variable (or pehaps "weirder" is more descriptive) than that of many people.
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richfed
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Below are the presidential candidates that I voted for since I was of voting age.
1972 George McGovern Democrat
1976 Eugene McCarthy Independent
1980 Ronald Reagan* Republican
1984 Ronald Reagan* Republican
1988 George Bush* Republican
1992 Ross Perot Reform
1996 Bob Dole Republican
2000 Ralph Nader
* means that I voted for the successful candidate.
Interesting progression there ...
I, too, was first eligible to vote in a Presidential election in 1972. Unfortunately, my memory suffers on this. I can't even remember who was running in some of those elections!!! Bad, I know ... a bunch of nobodies! I can tell you who I didn't vote for, though! Never cast a Presidential ballot for a Republican candidate! [but, I will!!]
1972 - George McGovern [worked for his local campaign group, as well]
1976 - Maybe it was McCarthy ... who ran on the Democratic ticket?
1980 - Democrat
1984 - Democrat
1988 - Democrat
1992 - Bill Clinton
1996 - Abstained
2000 - Abstained
2004 ? - George Bush!!!!!!!!!!!
After the '92 election, I'd had enough of the Democrats ...
After 9/11, I never want to see a Democrat in the White House again! |
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securemann
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Posted - August 26 2002 : 7:33:20 PM
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I voted for Rich Federici for C.S.E.A. union rep.in 1986 or 1987,can't remember.I was there when a mysterious package was mailed to my man Richy on the ward.It was a subtle harassment from within the ranks.Now Rich,do you remember what was in the package? I do.
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Dark Woods
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Posted - August 27 2002 : 12:59:40 AM
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[For general information and/or confusion, I have added names and affiliations of some other candidates for each election]
Below are the presidential candidates that I voted for since I was of voting age.
1972 George McGovern Democrat ___ Other Candidates included Nixon Republican
1976 Eugene McCarthy Independent ___ Others included Carter, Dem & Ford, Rep
1980 Ronald Reagan* Republican ___ Others included Carter, Dem
1984 Ronald Reagan* Republican ___ Others included Mondale, Dem
1988 George Bush* Republican ___ Others included Dukakais, Dem
1992 Ross Perot Reform ___ Others included Clinton, Dem and Bush, Rep
1996 Bob Dole Republican ___ Others included Clinton, Dem
2000 Ralph Nader ___ Others included Gore, Dem and "W" Bush, Rep
* means that I voted for the successful candidate.
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Interesting progression there ...
I, too, was first eligible to vote in a Presidential election in 1972. Unfortunately, my memory suffers on this. I can't even remember who was running in some of those elections!!! Bad, I know ... a bunch of nobodies! I can tell you who I didn't vote for, though! Never cast a Presidential ballot for a Republican candidate! [but, I will!!]
1972 - George McGovern [worked for his local campaign group, as well]
1976 - Maybe it was McCarthy ... who ran on the Democratic ticket?
1980 - Democrat
1984 - Democrat
1988 - Democrat
1992 - Bill Clinton
1996 - Abstained
2000 - Abstained
2004 ? - George Bush!!!!!!!!!!!
After the '92 election, I'd had enough of the Democrats ...
After 9/11, I never want to see a Democrat in the White House again!
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richfed
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Posted - August 27 2002 : 06:35:17 AM
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Well, ain't this embarrassing!!! How could I forget Jimmy????? Egad! For the record: voted for Carter (x2), Mondale (who I could picture, but not name!  , and Dukakais (who I remembered - just not which year it was!) ... I am getting old ... fast!
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Securemann wrote:
I voted for Rich Federici for C.S.E.A. union rep.in 1986 or 1987,can't remember.I was there when a mysterious package was mailed to my man Richy on the ward.It was a subtle harassment from within the ranks.Now Rich,do you remember what was in the package? I do.
I had forgotten that, too, till you jarred my memory with this ... now, what was in that??? I forget that, too!!!!!!!!  |
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securemann
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Posted - August 27 2002 : 6:49:48 PM
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Rich,
Remember a certain individual who was union rep.with you at the same time who had a propensity
towards gallivanting and abusing funds? You know,going on trips and dilly-dalying around making it look like he was doing something but was actually doing nothing? You were on the up and up and straight as an ARROW when it came to us lowly staff but this dude was a joke.Anyway,you
came on the ward one fine afternoon after checking
your mail down stairs.You had a nice big package and you and I were very curious.When you opened it,you gave me the most dumbfounded look like what the hell is this all about?It wasn't anything
dangerous but just a subtle goof.You know what it was?(Rich is probably saying to himself come on Jim will you get to the point?)The package contained two hand held hair dryers!What the heck is this all about we said to each other.Knowing that Rich had long flowing mohican hair(and probably still does)somebody thought they were being funny or was it intimidation?Now Rich,think hard buddy.Who do you think it was?I have an idea.And back then,we discussed it and agreed.The mystery continues..........
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securemann
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Posted - August 27 2002 : 9:36:58 PM
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To Rich ingo! To Anth:Political discussions up the old blood pressure.So I will do alittle surge this one time.Cuomo,who spoke with forked tongue,was responsible for OUR state facilty closure and numerous displaced and discarded employees.This involved ME.So I will end this topic.MS.BILLARY who refused to meet with the Gold Star Mothers.You know who the Gold Star mothers are? They are the ones who lost sons in a war.Oh,I forgot,I took a puff but I didn't inhale.
That's all...........
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securemann
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Posted - August 27 2002 : 9:39:17 PM
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There's that nerd thing again!I didn't do anything
to place that there!The word is Bingo!
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richfed
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Posted - August 28 2002 : 06:19:07 AM
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The "nerd" is made by putting : & B together. Because you don't put spaces between your sentences, that occurs occasionally in your posts. You wrote: quote:
To Rich: Bingo!
I put a space in, it's fine ... without the space, Nerdsville!!!
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Posted - August 29 2002 : 2:14:27 PM
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O.K. Anth: Politics itself gives me a stomach ache and the need to throw up at times.I realize nobody is perfect but at least Pres.Bush is trying to bring back the respect for life that had practically vanished under the dems.You do realize that unborn babies are people too? Clinton,with his vast amounts of verbal diarrhea,
did nothing to protect the rights of our weakest citizens who are the unborn babies.I can go on forever with details but my stomach is starting to hurt.At least Bush cries and has emotions.
Clinton,with his forked tongue double speak,oh well,I think I need to vomitus regurgis.Peace brother.
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Dark Woods
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Posted - September 26 2002 : 9:01:12 PM
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In recent days, Al Gore has come out with serious questions regarding the proposed attack on Iraq. Although I haven't voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate since McGovern, I applaud the immediate past Vice President for his serious and thoughtful comments.
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Stan
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Posted - September 27 2002 : 12:06:06 AM
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all al gore and dems want is power they dont give a damn about you me or the us of a if they dont run the show
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Ilse
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Posted - September 27 2002 : 4:20:44 PM
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Dark Woods,
I'd be interested in learning what you think about the questions Al Gore raised?
Ilse
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - September 27 2002 : 7:46:31 PM
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Originally posted by Dark Woods:
Below are the presidential candidates that I voted for since I was of voting age.
1972 George McGovern Democrat
1976 Eugene McCarthy Independent
1980 Ronald Reagan* Republican
1984 Ronald Reagan* Republican
1988 George Bush* Republican
1992 Ross Perot Reform
1996 Bob Dole Republican
2000 Ralph Nader
* means that I voted for the successful candidate.
(As strange as it may seem, I'm not certain whether Nader was Independent or Green. I will update his affiliation if that is clarified.)
Perhaps a few others are willing to confess their past presidential predilictions. I would suspect that my voting pattern is rather more variable (or pehaps "weirder" is more descriptive) than that of many people.
At least you can remember who you voted for.
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Stan
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Posted - September 28 2002 : 8:32:24 PM
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Anthony you need to wake and get in the real world you talk just like a liberal calling names but do nothing for the good of this country,
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Posted - September 29 2002 : 6:05:16 PM
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OK, people. I don't usually get involved in political debate but I read an article in Sunday's Birmingham News written by Charles Krauthammer, winner of the 1987 Pulitzer Prize for commentary and who writes for The Washington Post. Here is his opinion:
A pudding with no theme but much poison. Such was the foreign policy speech Al Gore delivered in San Francisco on Monday. It was a disgrace--a series of cheap shots strung together without logic or coherence. Most of all, it was brazen. It was delivered as if there had been no Clinton-Gore administration, no 1990's.
The tone of the speech is best reflected in Gore's contemptuous dismissal of the U.S. victory in Afghanistan as "defeating a fifth-rate military power." If the Taliban were a fifth-rate military power, why didn't the Clinton-Gore administration destroy it and spare us Sept.11?
It is not as if, during Gore's term, al-Qaida had not declared itself nor established its postal address. It issued a declaration of war on the United States, blew up our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and attacked the USS Cole. What did Gore's administration do? Fire a few missiles into the Afghan desert and a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory, then wash its hands and leave the problem to its successors.
Why didn't the Clinton-Gore administration go after this fifth-rate military power? This is a question that even Russia's President Putin has asked. In an interview with the German newspaper Bild shortly after Sept. 11, Putin recounted having talked to the Clinton administration about Osama bin Laden: "They wrung their hands so helplessly, and said, 'The Taliban are not turning him over, what can one do?' I remember I was surprised: If they are not turning him over, one has to think and do something."
They did nothing. Gore now scorns the success of the man who did something.
Considering the glass house he inhabits, Gore's attack on Bush is remarkably ad hominem. He implies, first, that the president is going after Iraq to distract attention from not finding Osama. And second, that Bush is doing this for electoral purposes.
Interesting charges. On Aug. 17, 1998, Gore's president, the one he declared "will be regarded in the history books as one of our greatest presidents," made his Monica confession on national television and then slinked away to Martha's Vineyard for penance and isolation. Then, less than three days later, he returned from oblivion with the ostentatious commander-in-chief walk from Marine One to the Oval Office to announce his response to the African embassy bombings: his useless cruise missile salvo against Afghanistan and Sudan.
Then, that December, another bombing spasm, a three-day affair against Irag that similarly achieved nothing. Operation Desert Fox occurred right in the midst of the House debate on impeachment. The timing was so wag-the-dog precise that it actually caused a postponement of the vote, with some Democrats suggesting that with the country now in crisis the impeachment proceedings should be canceled altogether and the whole mess left to the next Congress.
Gore should be careful about leveling charges about presidents getting combat-happy to distract attention from other problems. Yet what is most remarkable about Gore's speech is that for all its poison, it is profoundly unserious. Take Gore's repeated characterization of the Bush policy on postwar Afghanistan as "this doctrine of wash your hands and walk away."
Walk away? Our current policy is to secure Kabul, retrain the army, protect the new president and establish a small central government that can, over time, expand its political and geographic reach. This is a serious commitment. Our soldiers trying to fulfill it are being shot at regularly. Tell them they're walking away.
There is a serious question about how deeply involved in Afghanistan we ought to be. Are we more likely to bring stability by continuing Afghanistan's long history |
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SgtMunro
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My choices were...
1984 Ronald Regan (He gave us back our pride)
1988 George Bush (Active military)
1992 George Bush (Gulf War Veteran, I liked him)
1996 Bob Dole (My Grandpap was with him at Anzio)
2000 George Bush (Us USAF guys stick together)
2004 George Bush (I like him so far...)
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As far as Gore winning the popular vote, I guess that was possible once convicted felons, illegal aliens, the mentally ill and the dead were allowed to vote (and vote and vote and vote...). Add to that the ability to toss out the military votes, via absentee ballots, and I guess it could be possible. I mean common, 100% turn out in all Philadelphia black precints, not bloody likely...
Your Humble Author,
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Ah, I understand. It's so good to see that after all the USA is also a Banana Republic with incapacitated voters. I thought Holland at present was the only one in the western hemisphere. I'm so relieved now. The US can still do it bigger and better than the rest of us.
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 18 2002 : 9:26:34 PM
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Yes, but they are all registered Democrats. They may be standing on the oposite side of the fence, but it is a fence that is in OUR pasture. Europeans have little to say on the subject of any type of incompetence. Being that twice in the 20th century my country was dragged into European wars which none of the antagonists were capable of finishing on their own.
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Posted - October 19 2002 : 5:08:13 PM
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Aw SgtMunro!
Lighten up! I was only joking around, is that still possible from time to time?  Actually, I think I have much less suspicions about the quality of the democratic process in the US than you apparently.
About incompetence, the way my country has been run over the last year, I could tell you heaps about Dutch incompetence; the way the extension of the European Union is handled should tell you everything about EU incompetence. There's really no need to bring World War I or II into every discussion with a European, when there is so much powder you can use from the world's realities in this millennium. Take your aim, really.
SgtMunro, I don't think you know me very well, yet. I am no more critical of your government or society than I am of my own. Honestly! And I still think I live in the best country of the world, just like you 
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Posted - October 19 2002 : 9:12:53 PM
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Originally posted by SgtMunro:
Yes, but they are all registered Democrats. They may be standing on the oposite side of the fence, but it is a fence that is in OUR pasture. Europeans have little to say on the subject of any type of incompetence. Being that twice in the 20th century my country was dragged into European wars which none of the antagonists were capable of finishing on their own.
Sgt. Duncan Munro
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Assuming that you are talking about WWI and WWII, I consider this a very strange statement.....I was under the impression it was the Japanese that 'dragged' the USA into WWII.....
And on that same subject, correct me if I am wrong....but I believe that the Third Reich was the antagonist of this same war...would you really wish that this antagonist had been capable of finishing the job?
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You are right, partially at least. Hitler's Germany declared war on us, as part of a treaty with Japan. Before then, Winston Churchill did everthing to try bait us into joining him on his latest European Adventure. As far as bringing up WW1 & WW2, my family gave enough blood in that part of the world (In both wars, and in both theaters), not to mention the last two generations keeping the peace "over there" (myself included 1986-1990) that I do believe that for myself as well as my ancestors, have "Bought and dearly paid for" the right to bring up those two wars whenever and wherever I choose.
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As far as your remarks concerning the Third Reich in the role of antagonist, you obviously are not a student of military history. World War 2 begain with the Treaty of Versailles...
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