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Adele
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Posted - April 05 2004 :  12:17:48 PM  Show Profile  Send Adele a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
From the British newspaper...The Daily Telegraph

Channel 4 defends plan to screen an abortion
By Hugh Davies
(Filed: 05/04/2004)


Channel 4 is to screen an abortion in its entirety, three years after it said that pictures of the aftermath of one were "offensive to public feeling".

The footage, lasting about five minutes, will be the first time that the procedure has been televised in Britain.

A London doctor is depicted adopting the manual "vacuum pump" method. The woman having the abortion is four weeks pregnant. Viewers will see the aborted foetus being placed on a petri dish.

Her abortion is to be accompanied by pictures of foetuses terminated at 10, 11 and 21 weeks - similar to the images that Channel 4 backed off from earlier. In addition, there will be an inspection of the aborted foetal remains of a seven-week pregnancy.

My Foetus is already provoking an outcry, with the Roman Catholic Church calling it "abhorrent".

A Channel 4 broadcast last year of an autopsy by Gunther von Hagens prompted hundreds of complaints. The Independent Television Commission rejected the complaints because the programme had "approached the limits of what is allowed" but had not exceeded them.

Mags Patten, a Channel 4 official, denied that My Foetus was part of a trend towards shock television. She said: "This is purposeful TV, opening up the debate on abortion."

Julia Black, who made the film, said last night: "The abortion debate in this country needs to be brought up to date. I think the pro-choice movement can no longer rely on just arguing abortion is a woman's right. They have to start engaging with the reality."

She filmed the abortion at the clinic founded by her father Ken Black, the Marie Stopes International in London.

Black, who had an abortion at 21, said that she believed "a pervasive silence" surrounded the physical reality of the procedure.

"Aborted foetuses from 10 weeks on look like tiny babies. Rationally, we know abortion ends the life of a potential human being but why, when we see what they look like, are we so shocked?

"I needed to be convinced that abortion is a morally legitimate procedure even after knowing what it involves, and I wanted to take viewers on the same journey."

Lord Winston, a pioneer in gynaecolological microsurgery, questioned whether, as he said of his own BBC programme that showed the moment of a man's death, My Foetus was "an absolutely valid TV exercise".

He recalled a similar furore that preceded his programme in the BBC's Human Body series.

"It is quite important for our society to be generally aware of death. The programme was roundly criticised before people saw it. Afterwards there was much praise and three Baftas."

During the 1997 and 2001 general elections, Channel 4, along with other broadcasters, refused to transmit images of aborted foetuses as part of the Pro-Life Alliance's party broadcasts. The channel said that the images breached regulatory guidelines on decency.

Channel 4 said its film, lasting 30 minutes, was a different type of broadcast as, apart from the abortion footage, individuals for and against the procedure were interviewed, along with doctors.

Jess Search, commissioning editor for the programme, said: "Part of Channel 4's purpose is to open up discussion in difficult territory, and I think My Foetus does that."

The film will be screened at 11pm on April 20

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Personally, I am all in favour of this documentary being screened....what do you all think?

HM
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Posted - April 05 2004 :  5:36:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit SgtMunro's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I agree Adele, it would help show people what is really involved. Unfortunately people have this sterilized view of the the procedure, and have no idea of how it is performed.




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Posted - April 06 2004 :  05:05:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Thumbs up to that!
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Posted - April 06 2004 :  08:47:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Have any of you heard of, or seen, the controversial documentary titled "The Silent Scream"? I have not... can not... do not need to. But everyone who favors abortion should. The world needs to know how horrible and atrociously Nazi-like this practice is.

If anyone is curious, go to www.silentscream.org to find out more.
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Posted - April 11 2004 :  6:03:17 PM  Show Profile  Send Ithiliana an AOL message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
thanks for the site...
i saw the little video they have up there... 'diary of a preborn'...
unfortunately, i dont find it very realistic...
although it certainly gets its point across...
but tell me: why is it nazi-like?

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Posted - April 11 2004 :  7:59:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Slaying of innocents.
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Posted - April 11 2004 :  9:46:49 PM  Show Profile  Send Ithiliana an AOL message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
ahhh ok.
makes sense.

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Originally posted by Ithiliana
i saw the little video they have up there... 'diary of a preborn'... unfortunately, i dont find it very realistic...

er... I think you should scroll down the home page a little farther and click on the link that says "Graphic video of an 11th week abortion." You may find it a little more realistic.
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Posted - April 12 2004 :  12:51:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Try watching the video,"The Eclipse of Reason".I can't understand how anyone would still be for abortion after viewing this.
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Posted - April 23 2004 :  10:14:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I guess it all depends on opinion..if you were foolish and got pregnant..i think its not very good at all, your ending a human life..but i think we all have to think of it the other way too even if it is a horrible thing...what about those poor girls who are raped?? especially the very young ones at that..i think perhaps an abortion wouldn't be so bad at that case..those girls might not be able to raise the baby, it could completley mess up those girls future, and it wasn't even thier fault, my friend Lise who had this happen to her ended up missing out on finishing highschool, going to college and getting the job she wanted, and her child is having a very difficult life...but then agian there are adoption places and other things for children like that, even though sometimes once a mother has a child...no matter whose it is, its hard to give away something thats part of you even if you can't support it..so i guess it all depends..although i don't really think abortion is a good thing...lol i can't seem to make up my mind can i?

~Sincerely yours, the littleOne "Tetanktitit"
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Posted - April 24 2004 :  5:03:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There are many families out there waiting to adopt.No need to kill the babies.I know first hand because my wife and I adopted a baby and we thank the mother for her decision to give her child a chance at life.
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