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Lurking Huron4995
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 Posted - February 22 2003 : 07:28:10 AM
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In the "Stirring of the Heart" or "Burial Ground" scene, after Hawkeye talks about the stars being the Cameron's monument, Cora says 'you are right, Mr. Poe".
What is that in reference to?
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Theresa
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 08:26:31 AM
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Hawkeye went by several names in the Leatherstocking Tales, one of them being Nathaniel Poe. Clear it up any?
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 10:21:00 AM
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I think his name in the Tales was Nathaniel (Natty) Bumppo, Theresa (as in "Bumppo's Redux").
I reckon they changed it for the movie because "Bumppo" just doesn't sound like the guy who gets the girl (and didn't in the books).
I'm not sure if that's what our Huron is asking, however. Perhaps we're being asked to what the 'you are right' refers?
If so, I'd say it refers to Hawkeye's meaning behind the infamous 'breed apart and they make no sense' comment. No that she's cooled down (or perhaps warming up) a bit, she's acknowledging his point. |
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 1:51:57 PM
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Scott,
You may be right on the reference to "you are right". As for the name, I stand corrected. "Natty" (short for Nathaniel} and "Bumppo" (long for Poe) perhaps? A combination of the two? Don't really know...don't really care....and you can bet I'm NOT going back to read any of those books...no, no, no...not me! Has anyone heard from Anthony?
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 4:24:22 PM
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| Cora says, "You are right, Mr. Poe, we do not understand what is happening here and it is not as I imagined it would be, thinking of it in Boston and London..." Having come from such a different background, Cora probably didn't understand much of anything to do with America, including the people living there, their way of life, etc. Her statement reveals that she did spend some time in Boston but when she says "it is not as I imagined it would be," I think "it" is a reference to the wilderness, and living in the wilderness, and all of the hardships that people had to endure in order to live there. |
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 7:04:23 PM
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I think you're right, Diane. And that is probably what Lurking Huron meant, like Scott said. I jumped to a quick conclusion they meant the "Mr. Poe" part. Did Hawkeye refer to himself as Nathaniel Poe in the movie...I can't remember...it would've been at the Huron Village...hmmm..better go take a look-see!
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 7:53:25 PM
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That's one part of the movie that puzzled me the very first time I saw it! I never heard anyone call Hawkeye "Mr. Poe" during the entire movie, except for Cora! Exactly when this "introduction" took place remains a mystery to me, even to this day! Must have been one of those scenes that wound up on the cutting room floor...yet another reason to combine the VHS and DVD versions of the movie, and ADD MORE FOOTAGE!  |
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Posted - February 22 2003 : 7:54:39 PM
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Hi, everyone. Hawkeye was referred to as Nathaniel by Jack Winthrop at the fort.JACK: Nathaniel's word been good on the frontier a long time before you got here!
In the script, Munro refers to him as Mr. Poe at the fort.
At the Huron Village, Hawkeye says: "I am Nathaniel of the Yengeese; Hawkeye, adopted son of Chingachgook, of the Mohican people ... " |
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Posted - February 23 2003 : 07:20:14 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
As for the name, I stand corrected. "Natty" (short for Nathaniel} and "Bumppo" (long for Poe) perhaps?
Correct! Nat[ty]haniel Bumppo[e]!
Cooper = Natty Bumppo
Mann = Nathaniel Poe
For more: Natty Bumppo ... Trailing the Pathfinder |
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Posted - February 23 2003 : 5:03:43 PM
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Rich,
I think I goofed in my reply by saying he was referred to as Nathaniel Poe in the Leatherstocking Tales. The above explanation makes sense to me. But I believe Scott is right in stating he thought Lurking Huron was asking about the "you are right" part. |
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Posted - March 01 2003 : 07:40:00 AM
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From the Lurking Huron (not sure I like that name, but...)
I was trying to figure out the "Mr. Poe" part. Sorry for the confusing post. |
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Posted - March 01 2003 : 11:17:57 AM
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Lurking Huron,
So I wasn't off the mark on this! Did the above posts clear it up any for you?
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Posted - April 12 2004 : 8:46:37 PM
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| I understand the explanation offered by Rich, but where in the movie is Cora told Nathaniel's last name is Poe? He was never formally introduced as far as I can remember. Was this just one of those "things" we are just supposed to know? |
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Posted - April 13 2004 : 4:53:20 PM
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| I think we're supposed to infer that somewhere between the George Road and the Burial Ground, they made introductions. :) |
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Posted - April 14 2004 : 4:23:14 PM
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What ever it is one thinks; it ISN'T worth reading the book again!!!!
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Posted - April 14 2004 : 7:38:30 PM
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| hey! i liked the book. so neh =P |
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Posted - April 14 2004 : 10:13:43 PM
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I believe Daire has the right of it.
Cora actually refers to Hawkeye as Mr. Poe a bit earlier, at Cameron's cabin:
" ... I have seen the face of war before, Mr. Poe, but never war made on women and children. And almost as cruel is your indifference."
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Posted - April 15 2004 : 07:35:30 AM
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Originally posted by Jo
What ever it is one thinks; it ISN'T worth reading the book again!!!!
Ducking and running fast
Jo
On the contrary, when I read LOTM I was but a mere girl, and was made to do so in school, not by choice. Now I choose to read it of my own volition. |
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