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GOP 2012 hopefuls edge right as tea party watches

Associated Press/AP Online

By CHARLES BABINGTON



WASHINGTON - The tea party's demands for ideological purity have caught some GOP presidential hopefuls off guard, forcing them to awkwardly defend past decisions as they watch hard-right rivals gain ground.

It's painfully ironic for some of the Republicans most often mentioned as possible challengers to President Barack Obama in 2012. Stances that gave them national attention and credibility are now being used as cudgels to attack them as wobbly centrists.

Minnesota's Tim Pawlenty, for instance, gained a reputation as a pragmatic governor of a Democratic-leaning state. But now conservatives are berating him for accepting federal stimulus funds that helped him close a budget gap.

South Dakota Sen. John Thune, who also draws talk as a possible 2012 contender, said a federal bailout of banks was needed when he voted for the plan in 2008. Now, with tea party activists railing against the bailout, Thune is pushing efforts to end it.

And Mitt Romney, the closest thing to an early front-runner - and, perhaps, the establishment candidate - is struggling to explain why he expanded health care as Massachusetts governor, even as he attacks Obama's similar plan for the nation.

Meanwhile, there's increasing buzz about some hardline conservative Republicans who, until recently, rarely drew mention in presidential conversations. Chief among them is Texas Gov. Rick Perry. He handily defeated Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in last month's Republican gubernatorial primary after positioning himself to her right on nearly every issue.

And libertarian-Republican Ron Paul bested Romney and everyone else in a straw poll of presidential favorites at February's gathering of the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Perry and Paul are among the numerous potential candidates scheduled to speak this weekend to about 3,000 activists in New Orleans at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.

For now, at least, the fastest-rising Republicans seem to be those most in sync with tea partiers' aversion to taxes and Washington-based programs and regulations.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP's vice presidential nominee in 2008, draws big, enthusiastic crowds wherever she goes, even if party insiders question her ability to be elected president. She'll be in New Orleans, too.

In Texas, Perry fended off Hutchison's challenge by running as an anti-Washington, antiestablishment candidate. He welcomed support from tea party activists and other hard-core conservatives.

Romney and other more pro-establishment contenders are edging to the right and anxiously watching to see how high the tea party tide will rise.

Such tensions are likely to complicate the Republican presidential picture for the next two years, said Democratic consultant Chris Lehane, who worked on Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. Potential GOP candidates are caught between two vital bases, he said: Wall Street's deep-pocketed pragmatic interests and the high-decibel, uncompromising views of the tea party.

GOP presidential hopefuls who can't figure out how to navigate that road, Lehane said, "will get run over."

Perry is not well known outside Texas, and his chances of being president in three years might seem slim. But the same could be said of almost any of the two dozen or so Republican potential challengers at this early stage.

Still, "a serious contender is certain to rise" eventually to oppose Obama, said Washington-based Republican consultant Terry Holt. It's neither surprising nor troubling, he said, that the GOP field is big and unsettled for now.

"My sense is that Romney has some distinct advantages," Holt said, including good name recognition and fundraising powers.

But Congress' bitter fight to enact Obama's rewrite of U.S. health care laws, plus the dramatic rise of a staunchly conservative movement headed by self-described tea party activists, are causing Romney fits.

He called last month's passage of the Democratic health care bill "an unconscionable abuse of power," and urged its repeal.

But critics on the left and right note similarities between the Obama bill and Romney's 2006 Massachusetts law, which imposed new taxes plus a fee on people who don't buy health insurance. Former Obama and Romney health adviser Jonathan Gruber didn't help matters when he told the Boston Globe that Romney is "in many ways the intellectual father of national health reform."

Former Romney campaign aide Kevin Madden says the average voter doesn't scrutinize such matters, especially when the election is more than two years away. He predicted Romney will have good credibility on health care in 2012.

Other potential GOP presidential contenders also are scrambling to appeal to the party's ardently anti-Obama base.

Pawlenty has denounced Obama's federal stimulus program, calling it poorly targeted and inefficient. But his 2010 budget proposal for Minnesota used millions of stimulus dollars to help cover the state's deficit.

Pawlenty spokesman Brian McClung said it's only fair for the state to accept stimulus funds because, overall, Minnesota sends more money to the federal government in taxes and fees than it receives in benefits.

"Minnesota is paying more than our share," McClung said. He said Pawlenty is not being hypocritical when he criticizes weaknesses in the stimulus program but makes sure his state's residents receive the benefits due them.

In a similar vein, Thune has defended his attacks on the bank bailout program he once voted for. He says the "troubled asset relief program" has outlived its purpose.

With the tea party a major but hard-to-measure factor, the current presidential hopefuls are bound to have more company before long.

Conservative columnist Fred Barnes recently called Perry's win over Hutchison "a signal."

"After the midterm election this November," Barnes wrote in the Weekly Standard, "the field of candidates for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 (or later) is going to get bigger and possibly better."




Sarge's Assesment- Now is not the time for the country-club, blue-blood RINO Republicans (Republican In Name Only) like Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty to continue to lead the GOP into oblivion. And we do not need the 'reach across the aisle' clowns like McCain or Lugar either; no, what is needed are sharp contrasts. There is no place for the RINO's, who are more concerned with making friends on 'The Hill', or jockeying for the best cocktail party invites, rather than protecting and serving their constituents. Thankfully, the 'Tea Party Movement' (of which I have proudly been involved with since May of 2009) has put those of weak knees & stomachs on notice.

Over thirty-five years ago, Ronald Reagan made the following statement, "Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party? Raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people..." When President Reagan made that statement, he was dismissed by the same RINO's who created that abysmal failure, Gerald Ford. The same kind of check-pants wearing, martini-sipping and hand-shaking types who are quite content with being the minority party, just as long as the Cultural-Marxists from across the aisle speak kindly of them from time to time. But within five years, the former governor of California, who was so casually waved-off by the Rockefeller Republicans, was being sworn-in as the 40th President of the United States.

It is funny how history has a recurring theme; in that it is the same types of high-handed voices who have so talked-down Sarah Palin after the 2008 Election. The same 'Moderates' who failed to acknowledge that it was their fellow RINO McCain who threw the presidential race by wanting to drift to left. But I send a warning to those spineless members of the GOP, that is prepare to be marginalized (as they should be), for it is the Conservative base that has always secured GOP victories in the past, and will again in the very-near future. G.W. Bush made the mistake of playing nice with these RINOs (like the now-Democrat Sen. Specter of PA), and it cost him not only the party control of both houses in 2006, but a GOP White House sucessor in 2008; hopefully the GOP has learned its lesson once again...





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