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liam123
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Posted - April 12 2008 : 08:13:48 AM
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what happened to the props from the film? can you buy replicas?
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Irishgirl
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James N.
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Posted - April 27 2008 : 11:08:07 AM
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I have an "update" on one of the set pieces I reported seeing before, but will start a new thread for it; that is, as soon as I figure out how to post pictures on this thing! |
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James N.
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Posted - May 06 2008 : 3:19:28 PM
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I'd also like to mention that, depending on exactly what it is you are wanting; based on the picture you posted along with your question, military items tended to be furnished to the production by Craig Nannos' company. He supplies many Revolutionary War reenactors with uniforms and accouterments similar to or the same as those used in the movie.
In some cases, there were two categories of costumes and props: those in general use; and those intended only for what is called "deep background". An example of this is in the British cartridge boxes: excellent fully-working all-leather pouches and straps with correct brass buckles; or the black-painted wooden blocks with white nylon web slings stapled to them! ( I've seen one of the latter recently on a site that sells movie props for "only" $49! ) |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - May 06 2008 : 4:48:47 PM
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I remember when there was a display of props used by the major LOTM actors at the visitor's center at the top of the elevator at Chimney Rock. That was in the mid 1990's. I wish I had taken some pictures of it, but I did not have my camera. I think seeing that exhibit is where I got my long-standing desire to own a Centermark fusil (even though they are not correct copies).
The Brits used the Jap Bess as sold by Navy Arms, right? I believe that is what Eric Hurley has. What did the French use? |
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James N.
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Posted - May 06 2008 : 6:28:42 PM
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As I remember they were the corresponding Navy Arms Japanese M1763 Charlevilles. I brought my own Charleville to potentially use in the filming, but only used it at the training camp. I was variously a French officer; or British officer, NCO, or enlisted man. Therefore, I never needed to use the Charleville; but if I had, there were around 200 of them in props as well as a like number of Brown Besses. If I remember, mine is better finished than the run-of-the-mill ones owned by the production company. I don't know the origin of the trade muskets, though. |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - May 06 2008 : 7:30:19 PM
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Do you know if the guns were sold at the end of filming, or maybe recycled for use in other films?
The Charlevilles were not the correct pattern for the 1750's, but in 1990 neither was anything else. And the Navy Arms guns were state of the art. And they are considered collectible in their own right now. A friend of mine has one of these guns that someone in New York modified to look like the correct 1750's gun. This was done back in the 90's. The top of the stock was re-worked and wood added to the bottom.The extra barrel band locks removed, and the whole gun was slimmed. It would almost pass for a museum piece.
If you had been a French enlisted man, would they have let you use your gun? Or would they have issued you one of theirs? |
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James N.
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Posted - May 06 2008 : 8:36:25 PM
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It is my understanding, filtered through these many intervening years, that all the costumes, props ( including guns ), and set pieces were sold off soon after the production "wrapped". For a while I was in contact with a reenactor, Tom Tucker, who lived somewhere in the Asheville area. He sent me some photos and told me of his experiences working subsequently on a horrible made-for-TV potboiler, "Broken Chain", with Eric Schweig playing Joseph Brandt. He said that it was filmed somewhere in Virginia soon after, and used the costumes and I believe muskets from LOTM.
I cannot say with certainty about using your own firearms; props would probably have tried to confiscate any guns seen "walking off" the set. I brought with me an original M.1733 French Dragoon pistol from my collection ( which I have unfortunately since sold ), but thought better of volunteering its use. I'd previously smashed the stock of a rather poor-condition French Revolutionary musket on the set of "The Alamo, The Price of Freedom"; so didn't want to take any chances with this much better example. |
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