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Dillon1836
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 Posted - November 21 2004 : 9:25:52 PM
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I have a feeling this is in the wrong category, but I wasn't sure where to put it.
Anyway, since August after firing my first flintlock rifle and making 2 dead centers and one 12 o'clock high, I'd like to know where I could get a nicely priced rifle of my own. At the Alamo gathering in August I fired 3 different flintlock rifles and I think I may have an interest of having one of my own. I made good shots with each one and have a feeling I could handle a rifle well...including the cleaning details that I'd have to become familiar with. I know they aren't cheap, but then again I may be getting a job this Summer and could save up. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
~Wade
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susquesus
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - November 22 2004 : 11:56:47 AM
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| Before you buy, do a little research. Decide what period the rifle should be. They are very different from the 1760's to the Federal Period. If you buy one with a straight barrel (that is, not swamped) it will be 1810 or later. And earlier calibers are usually larger than later calibers. If you want a nice gun and are not all that concerned about total period accuracy, take a look at what Wayne Zurl has in stock (http://www.waynezurl.com/). They are not fancy guns but are good quality for the money. He uses straight barrels to keep the cost down, but in doing so, sacrifices accuracy. If you want a lot of quality wood carving, then he price will probably be over $2000. |
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CT•Ranger
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Posted - November 22 2004 : 6:26:59 PM
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When I was 17, I saved my money from a summer job and bought a Jim Chambers rifle kit. It was a lot more work than advertized, plus it was my first time putting together a gun kit. But it was a very rewarding experience and I learned a lot. I recommend doing a lot of research before you buy, so that you get a firearm that fits the time and place you're interested in. Also, you might be able to get one "in the white" which is easier than a kit, and cheaper than finished. Basically you just have to stain and finish the stock, or polish the metal if you want.
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Okwaho
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Posted - December 27 2004 : 08:32:46 AM
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Both these {Wayne Zurl and ERA ] are good and Fitz is right on doing your reaesrch. I think he hit the wrong key in the Zurl guns. Straight barrel rifles are not any less accurate just less authentic than swamped barrels for 18th century style guns since straight barrels only began to come in about 1810 or so and so are not really correct for 18th century guns.In addition there are the Historical Trekkers and Colonial Backwoods boards and both have sections for buying and selling and I see guns for sale fairly frequently.As to accoutrements they also offer these by various makers.
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Okwaho
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Posted - December 27 2004 : 08:41:46 AM
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| I forgot to comment on a previous post on this thread. CT Ranger mentioned a Jim Chambers kit. These aren't for beginners but they are from an authenticity standpoint the very best in kits and I think guns in the white but I'm not sure about the latter.I don't know the web address but Google does.Track does offer some parts sets but unless you've been around the barn a few times I'd be careful. |
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - December 27 2004 : 10:29:31 AM
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I think he hit the wrong key in the Zurl guns.
Bad choice of words. I meant for an accurate persona, not for shooting accuracy. |
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Okwaho
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Posted - December 27 2004 : 3:32:57 PM
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You know what the problem is Fitz?In the whole wide world and even South Carolina, there are only two people who are perfect and those two people are you and me and you know I'm not absolutely sure about you. |
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - December 27 2004 : 4:29:47 PM
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| Now, you are forgetting Mark Baker, Karl Koster, and maybe Mark Lewis before he rode off on his Harley. |
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Okwaho
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Posted - December 27 2004 : 6:05:36 PM
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Fitz, Please foward to me your personal cheque or an instument guaranteeing funds in the amount of $100.00. That amount of payment,sir,is the very least amount of recompense that I will accept for being forced to think about Mark Lewis.He is the person,if you remember,who was the recipient of Fallaloosa's retort that he refused to engage in a war of wits with him because he felt that it was improper to engage in such a war with an unarmed enemy.I guess you're correct about him riding off into the sunset. I've been hearing more reports lately of sunspots emitting hot gasses.
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Two Kettles
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Posted - January 02 2005 : 3:53:31 PM
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Wade,
Sorry for the lateness of this reply, but I've been away from the Board for a couple weeks.
I agree with the comments above, but I think one of the most important things you have to keep in mind for this project is that you want a later period (probably post-1800) rifle, whereas a lot of us here jump to thinking about the earlier period rifles. The advantage this gives you is that rifles were much more common in the post-1800 period, and reproductions are also more common and more affordable (relatively speaking).
One thing you might consider, if you build a rifle or have one custom built, is that there are a number of originals on display at the Alamo. You could probably get detailed descriptions, and maybe even photos (if they have them in the archives, since you can't take photos in the Alamo itself). I think there's at least one in the Shrine, and there are several in the Long Barracks museum. If you have or get the book on the Long Barracks museum the Daughters put out, there are some photos in there that might be a jumping off point. I'd also ask around the various Alamo groups - I'm sure there are folks there who can give you assistance also.
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Bookworm
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Posted - January 07 2005 : 8:42:07 PM
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There's also a company that makes replicas of David Crockett's first rifle:
http://www.caywoodguns.com
Of course, $12,500 IS a little steep . . . maybe this would be something to reward yourself with, when your books on the Alamo are selling well! |
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Dillon1836
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Posted - January 08 2005 : 2:59:22 PM
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Thanks everyone.
Seems when I get a job I'll need to save up. Other than that I appreciate the information yall have given me and learned.
Bookworm, my novel is coming along well. Thanks for your interest.
~Wade
P.S. If you want updates on my book and how I'm coming along as one of the youngest Alamo historians check out http://alamosentry.blogspot.com |
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