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Lowlander
Lost in the Wilderness
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 Posted - August 01 2004 : 10:04:51 AM
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I am searching for a few photographs of reenactors for a book I am writing. I am looking for photos of British regulars and ranger units, (rather than provincial troops or militia,) and French regulars, Compagnies franches de la Marine and militia. I managed to get some rather nice photos last summer at the Ticonderoga gathering but unfortuantely Kodak messed up the development--I now have lots of free film and free developing but have finally resorted to a good quality digital camera. Because I am in Scotland it is obviously difficult for me to get to most events, although I will be in Pennsylvania in October and am planning on attending some of Fort Ligonier days and on travelling up to Montreal to look at Fort Chambly. Any help would be most appreciated.
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Fitz Williams
Colonial Militia
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Posted - August 01 2004 : 10:58:13 AM
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Take a look at this web site. It is from the Fort Necessity reenactment of July 4 of this year. The British troops in the red uniforms with the light green facings represent the South Carolina Independent Company and are not a numbered British unit, but in 1754 they considered themselves well above the Provencial units is status. Enough so that their commander refused to place his troops under the command of the Colonel from Virginia, even though that Colonel outranked him. The French are, of course, Compagnies franches de la marine and milice.
http://zphotos.smugmug.com/Events
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - August 01 2004 : 11:10:06 AM
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Here is an example fo the SCIC:
And the French:
There are over 300 pictures and well worth a look. |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - August 01 2004 : 12:04:43 PM
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Fitz writes: The British troops in the red uniforms with the light green facings represent the South Carolina Independent Company and are not a numbered British unit, but in 1754 they considered themselves well above the Provencial units is status.
Actually the Independent Companies were in the pay of The King. They were listed under the 'Irish Establishment' of the British Army, the same way that Invalid Companies were carried on the 'English Establishment'. That being, they were both a place for soldiers too worn out for Continental Service, but not of age to retire. The officers of said companies carried the King's Commission, which always outranked any Provincial Commission before 1758.
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Lowlander reports: ...although I will be in Pennsylvania in October and am planning on attending some of Fort Ligonier days...
Fort Ligonier Days is a good place for you to get a wide selection of uniformed soldiers for your pictures. There you will find British and French Regulars (Infantry & Artillery), French Marines & Milice, British Provincials from Virginia and Pennsylvania, Regular and Provincial Rangers, as well as militia. I think you will find it worth your while...
Your Most Humble Servant,
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Capt. Thos. Graham's Coy.
42nd Royal Highland Regiment of Foote
(The Black Sheep of the Black Watch)
"Nemo Me Impune Lacessit"
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Many Flags
Colonial Settler
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Posted - August 01 2004 : 1:09:52 PM
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Lowlander.....go to the website for 1st Stj. MacWm's 77th Grens and you will find MANY PHOTOS of many troops in many reenactments. However, they are the property of Muskets of the Crown, Inc. and of Susan Gable....you will need to email Susan (Chief Distaff) and ask for permission to use photos.
www.muskets-of-the-crown.org
Let us know what you wish......Many Flags |
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - August 01 2004 : 4:04:34 PM
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Actually the Independent Companies were in the pay of The King
But they were not a "numbered" regiment like the 42nd, or the 71st etc. There were three companies which were at the disposal of Governor Glenn, but he complained that they were continually scattered over the colonies and he could not make use of them. At Fort Loudoun (the TN one) there were soldiers of the SCIC and also South Carolina Provencials who wore a medium-blue uniform. The Provencials fared better than the SCIC in the aftermath of Oconostota's victory, which, by the way, is coming up in August.
Also, there was some degree of unhappiness on the part of the Virginia Colonel regardless of whether or not his rank was superior to that of a Regular. This was common among all the Colonial units of the period and led to some Colonials refusing to serve under British officers in the later years of the F&I.
This same Colonel later applied for a commission as a British regular and was refused. But with a record like Jumonville's Glenn, Ft. Necessity, and Braddock's Defeat, who could blame them. |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - August 01 2004 : 4:52:07 PM
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You're right, Fitz. I was just clarifying the fact that the Independent Companies were Crown Troops. Some folks actually believe that they were Provincial Forces, so I just wanted to clear that up, for the casual reader.
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Capt. Thos. Graham's Coy.
42nd Royal Highland Regiment of Foote
(The Black Sheep of the Black Watch)
"Nemo Me Impune Lacessit"
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Lowlander
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Posted - August 03 2004 : 11:34:41 AM
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| Thank you very much for those suggestions. They both look very promising, especiallly if I can find who holds the copyright for the Zphotos. I need to find 80 images and have a good collection from the National Archives of Canada (who don't charge for reproduction if the item itself is no longer copyrighted). But there is a limit to how many paintings and engravings you can find and some photographs provide a nice contrast. I am going to try contact some of the reenactment groups and see if they have any archives of photos. |
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