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mannatoo
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 Posted - April 18 2004 : 11:41:50 AM
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I read with interest some of the religiously-oriented topics within these forums. Hoping someone among you can answer this for me.
Was Peter the first Pope? He was married according to the scriptures in Mark 1:30 and in I Corinthians 9:5. It is my understanding that Bishops and Popes cannot be married. If this is so, how could Peter have become the first Pope? If Peter was married why are Popes not able to marry now?
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Ithiliana
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Posted - April 19 2004 : 8:32:20 PM
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hmmm... i have done some research on the papacy, and the sources ive read did say that peter was the first pope...
as for the reason for his marriage... well... peter was special... he didnt have to climb the ecclesiastical (i cant spell -_-;;) ladder... nowadays, you gotta be at least an archbishop to be elected pope... back then, he was fisherman, then apostle, then pope... and i believe he was married before he met jesus. so when jesus died, who could he have turned the supremacy over to? peter, his right hand man. there werent enough candidates for him to be picky and choosie back then. so peter was unique, he was the first... now we're up to number... like... 265 or so... so traditions have pretty much set in...
hope that helps a little...
hopefully theresa and WW and Kay and everyone else who debated with me over religious topics here will come post and shed some light on the matter :)
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Kaylynn44
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Posted - April 19 2004 : 10:04:41 PM
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I don't know anything about this either Ithi. Lainey is the expert on this subject!!!
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Lainey
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Posted - April 23 2004 : 03:46:04 AM
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Manatoo asked:
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I read with interest some of the religiously-oriented topics within these forums. Hoping someone among you can answer this for me.
Was Peter the first Pope? He was married according to the scriptures in Mark 1:30 and in I Corinthians 9:5. It is my understanding that Bishops and Popes cannot be married. If this is so, how could Peter have become the first Pope? If Peter was married why are Popes not able to marry now?
Yes, Peter [Cephas] was the first Pope - chosen by Christ following Simon's [his name before Christ called him Cephas - or Peter] confession in which he said Christ was the Messiah. Christ promised to not leave us orphans - the Eucharist & the Priesthood of Christ, with the heirarchy of Pope, Bishops, & Priests established by Christ Himself being the two manifestations of Christ's continued REAL presence in His Church. This is so & has been so for two thousand years.
Yes, Peter was married but with his wife's permission [which was necessary as Peter could not abandon his wife - he had to have her blessing & support] Peter did as he was called to do; 'Leave all & follow Me.' He no longer lived as her husband but as Christ's servant [which is what 'priest' means]. The clergy are men called out from the world to serve the Kingdom of God in the world - the Church.
Though it is not a matter of truth & morals, and was debated fiercely in the first centuries, the celibate priesthood of Christ in the Catholic Church is a tradition drawn from wisdom & example. Christ Himself established the celibacy model of His priests - calling them TOTALLY His. Recognizing that Christological model as one which was most perfect & most in imitation of Christ, the Church continues to hold to the tradition of a celibate clergy today [with some, though few, exceptions - notably among married clergy from other faiths that convert to the Catholic faith & seek ordination within her]. Priests [which Bishops & Popes are] are servants of God - Persona Christi - & as such, they must serve completely one master. Marriage divides the responsibility & commitment - an interior house divided - leaving, if it were the norm, a priesthood unable to fully serve the needs of either his family or his parish. The people of a parish are the priest's family & his pastoral care of them is undivided, ideally balanced by the parish family's support & care of the priest.
I hope that clarifies ... |
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