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Posted - January 06 2004 :  10:14:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People who live in Egypt, were born in Egypt, or still have family in Egypt will tell you this is the country where current Islamic sentiments against Christianity are most accurately & immediately measured. Saudi Arabia may be Islam's theological, spiritual, & militant center, but Egypt is Islam's street. What happens in Egypt is the standard of the day.


Christians in the Cross Hairs

For Egypt's Copts, Life Is Getting Harder

CAIRO, Egypt, DEC. 13, 2003 (Zenit.org).- Christmas may be anything but merry for Egypt's Christians. They are increasingly facing a harder time living under anti-conversion laws and legal discrimination. Not until Dec. 3, for instance, did police release the last of a group of 22 converts who had been arrested in late October, their only crime being an attempt to convert to Christianity from Islam, the Britain-based Barnabas Fund reported. Mariam Girgis Makar, the last detainee, was released on bail for 1,000 Egyptian pounds ($162).

According to the Barnabas Fund in its Dec. 4 report, the converts were arrested on charges related to falsifying their names on documents. In Egypt, a Christian who converts to Islam can change identification papers, inserting a new Muslim name within 24 hours. But there is no reciprocal arrangement for a Muslim who converts to Christianity. All citizens are required to have listed on their identity card whether they are Christian or Muslim.

According to Helmy Guirguis, president of the United Kingdom Coptic Association, Muslims who convert to Christianity and don't change their names are forced to live a double life. "They convert, keep their [Muslim] names ... go to church and take communion, [but] when they go out of the church, they behave like classic Muslims," he said in an interview with Cybercast News Service published Oct. 29.

Usually, only the priests know about their true identity, Guirguis said. Converts are unable to befriend other congregants unless they too are converts living a secret life, he noted. If discovered and arrested, the converts are tortured and forced to reveal the identities of accomplices and other converts, Guirguis added.

On Dec. 2 the Barnabas Fund publicized another case of persecution, involving a convert's Christian husband who was arrested while trying to leave Egypt. On Nov. 28, Bolis Rezek-Allah tried to escape what the Barnabas Fund termed "the mounting persecution he is suffering at the hands of the Egyptian authorities because of his marriage to Enas Badawi, a Christian converted from a Muslim background."

The press release explained that he was put in the custody of Hussein Gohar, a security officer noted for his vindictive behavior to converts from Islam. Gohar has reportedly threatened Rezek-Allah that he will track down his wife Enas and execute her in front of her husband. Rezek-Allah was eventually released, but police say they will continue to block him from leaving the country even though he has the correct documentation to leave for Canada.

Rezek-Allah troubles started last summer when he was arrested on the charge of marrying a Muslim. It is illegal under Egypt's Islamic law for a Christian man to marry a Muslim. Badawi had in fact converted to Christianity before the marriage, but the Egyptian authorities had failed to recognize her conversion.

Double standards

The organization International Christian Concern calculates that Muslims make up 85.4% of Egypt's population. The government estimates the Christian population at 6%, but other sources put it as high as 14.2%. The vast majority of the Christians are members of the Coptic Church, which existed before the arrival of Islam in Egypt.

Despite being a long-standing sizable minority group in Egypt, Coptic Christians face numerous difficulties, said a background briefing by International Christian Concern. A major obstacle is obtaining permission to build churches. An 1856 decree dating back to the Ottoman Empire

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Posted - February 10 2004 :  05:29:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Highlander's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
When I was in Egypt,I met a very nice Coptic Christian(or Copt for short).What impressed me about him,was that when I gave him something(I believe that it was a foodstuff since we were on patrol together)he gave me a picture of the Blessed Mother in return(as was their custom).On the other hand,a muslim would beg all day long until you gave him something.The Christians are truly a persecuted people in the land of the Pharohs.

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Posted - February 10 2004 :  11:35:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The Copts are very devoted to the Blessed Mother.From 1968-1971 she appeared over a Coptic Church in Zeitoun,Egypt.Millions of people from all walks of life and religions saw her during those years.There's a website that has the pictures and news articles from those years.
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Posted - February 11 2004 :  12:56:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Highlander's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The Copts are very devoted to the Blessed Mother.From 1968-1971 she appeared over a Coptic Church in Zeitoun,Egypt.Millions of people from all walks of life and religions saw her during those years.There's a website that has the pictures and news articles from those years.



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