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Wilderness Woman
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 Posted - September 25 2003 : 08:29:55 AM
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I saw the trailer the other night... on TV! November!
Woo-hoo! Looks Wonderful!
P.S. No... It's not because of Russell Crowe. I am not particularly a fan of his. The movie just plain looks good.
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Bill R
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 3:11:03 PM
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Saw the coming attractions on TV. It looked pretty good. One of those movies where I say "we gotta go see that in the theatre!"
Usually, I just wait for it to come out on video! Not this one.
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 3:28:36 PM
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| I have to say......THE ALAMO WILL BE BETTER.....lol I just joking.Yes,Master and Commander looks awesome.I saw the trailer in theatres. |
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Bill R
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 3:50:25 PM
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| Alamo is another one I want to see in the theatre. Then there is the samurai one with what's his name......Eyes Wide Shut bozo....the pretty boy, self involved guy. You know, Top Gun guy. Don't much care for him, but the plot and period attract me. And of course, the next sequel for Lord of the Rings, and the next Harry Potter. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 4:36:53 PM
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Bill, my DH is the same way: wait until it comes out on video... no, no... wait until FX shows it on TV...
I love going to the movies (except for the price these days. Ouch!) and I pretty much have to go by myself if it is something I really want to see on the Big Screen. I did get him out to Gods and Generals, and he has said that he would like to go see Master & Commander.
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Bill R
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 5:09:25 PM
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| Well, there is method to our male madness. If four folks went to the movies every time a decent one came out, that would be like 30 bucks WITHOUT popcorn and drinks just to see one movie. At least that much. Wait for it to come out on video, and for $3.50 TEN people can watch it if you wanna, and you can have all the popcorn or pizza and BEER you want while doing so! Pause it if you have to go to the bathroom (which I have to do at least once or twice during a long movie these days old as I am) and you won't miss anything nor get booed at as you stand up and try to fight your way outta the aisle! And, there aren't all THAT many movies I consider good enough to wanna pay even the matinee fees to see. This IS one of those that compel me to do so however! And LOTR, and Betty likes HP. |
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 6:12:29 PM
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I liked the trailer also, looks like it will be one for the DVD rack (for the same reasons which Bill so correctly stated). When Russell Crowe was shown on the ship, I couldn't help but think when he was spoofed on the cartoon 'South Park' with "Russell Crowe's Fighting Around The World".
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - October 21 2003 : 9:47:20 PM
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Glad to see people are starting to get excited about this one.
Hardly ever bother to go see 'em on the big screen anymore, but you can bet I'll go for this one.
Maybe all that salt water will wash away memories of POTC.
Seriously, I've been tracking this one for well over a year (and I'm not a "movie person").
In a sense, I've been waiting forty years, since the last decent "fighting sail" movie. |
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - November 02 2003 : 08:29:00 AM
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For quite a while now, I've been frequenting a board for those interested in O'Brians works sponsored by Norton, his American publisher.
Frequented ordinarily by generally sedate O'Brian fans, it's been "interesting" to watch the impact made on the board by anticipation of this movie, as well as by the increasing arrival of Russell Crowe fans.
The board can be accessed via Norton's Patrick O'Brian Page.
Also, Yahoo Movies has some clips from the movie: Yahoo Movies M&C/FSOTW. |
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 08:18:31 AM
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I attended the movie early yesterday evening.
After tracking it all this time, I fully expected to leave the theater with strong, fully-formed opinions and feelings about it.
Instead, I find I'm going to have to sit with this one for a bit.
I would, however, suggest that if you have the least interest in the genre*, or like watching Crowe in action, that you proceed to the theater with the utmost dispatch.
After all: "There's not a moment to lose!"
*Disclaimer: This advice does not apply to those O'Brian fans who are likely become mentally disturbed at the thought of any changes to his work. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 09:35:20 AM
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Hmmmmm. Most interesting, Scott. I am rather surprised at your reaction. I will be interested to see what you have to say after you have chewed on it a bit. I think perhaps that I will be at an advantage, for having never read any of the books. I will have nothing to compare the movie to.
I have read about 4 online reviews and only one person gave it a less than perfect review. He graded it as a "B" movie. So I was thinking, "What planet is he from?" The others all agreed that it was a very well done movie and that Crowe was fantastic. Ebert and Roeper gave it two thumbs up and had everything good to say about it. In fact, Ebert's exact word was: "glorious"!
Hubbie and I will be going soon... if not this weekend, than next. I fully expect to enjoy it quite thoroughly!
Do let us know what you decide!
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 09:51:17 AM
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Here is one man's opinion:
As magnificent as a high-masted 19th-century British warship, as explosive as a Napoleonic-era ocean battle seen above the cannon's mouth, Peter Weir's "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World," with Russell Crowe as Captain Jack Aubrey, is probably the best movie of its kind ever made.
Among period sea sagas, this film stands supreme -- just as the Patrick O'Brian novels that inspired it are justly regarded as the finest historical sea-war stories ever written. "Master and Commander" takes its titles and plot from two O'Brian novels, the first and 10th in that brilliant author's 20-book series about dashing Jack Aubrey of Lord Nelson's British Navy and his friend and ship's physician (and Irish rebel), Dr. Stephen Maturin -- roles played to perfection by Crowe and Paul Bettany.
Director/co-writer/co-producer Weir and his crack team capture the look and feel of the novels, their wealth of detail, intimacy, soaring poetry and sea-wind gusto. Meanwhile, Crowe makes Aubrey his man, seizing the role with as much force and inevitability as any actor since Connery won Bond.
Crowe gets almost everything about O'Brian's Aubrey but his beefsteak portliness. He's comfortable with the powdered wig, the salty humor and grace under fire, and he's equally at ease swinging a sword or bowing up Mozart and Bach sonatas on his violin. (Musician Crowe plays them himself.) No Crowe fan should be disappointed, but no O'Brian fan should be disappointed, either -- though both novels are treated more as inspirations than outlines. The Surprise even has a different ocean nemesis, French instead of American.
Weir lets himself fall under the spell of O'Brian's lofty vision and gorgeous prose, his witty and eloquent re-creations of early 1800s seafaring lore and sea battles, and that makes all the difference. Weir, an Australian, is a great filmmaker, especially fine with literate, psychological adventure sagas (such as "Gallipoli"). Here, he gives us everything we might want: overpowering vistas, beautifully dressed ships, staggering action scenes, a crew full of pungent seadogs, pace, sweep and two lead actors who play off each other with fiery panache.
Like O'Brian's novels, the movie pleases us on many levels and leaves us wanting more. It's rare that a big-scale, big-budget movie -- one that involved three studios (Fox, Miramax and Universal) and a gargantuan budget -- so satisfyingly distills most of the best qualities of a piece of fine literature, rarer still when a movie can so fully catch the spirit of its source while discarding so much of the letter.
But what makes "Master" a cause for true celebration is its cargo of sheer lusty entertainment, rousing enough to please and thrill those huge audiences utterly unfamiliar with O'Brian and his world of tall ships, stout fellas and the high bright sun of the British ocean empire. After "Master and Commander," that sun won't set again for quite a while.
Michael Wilmington, Chicago Tribune
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 12:13:59 PM
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I think Wilmington has a couple of things mixed up there, but I'm glad he liked the movie.
I like it too--there's no question about it. The question is whether or not I love it.
If you'd like to see dueling reviews, check out the board I referenced above. There's some skirmishing between old adversaries using reviews as weapons.
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 8:22:46 PM
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Master and Commander gets a "tomahawk up" from me. Well done, rousing, enjoyable familiar music, made me glad for what I do (fight the French and Savages!!). Malcolm sat beside me the whole time and huzzahed his way through it!! Pax Aye!!
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We went to the late matinee today. To echo Roger Ebert... It Was Glorious!!
Magnificent photography; excellent acting by everyone and especially Russell Crowe; beautiful use of classical music, as Flags said. I don't know how much of it was computer graphics, but the ship was amazing inside and out. The battle and hand-to-hand scenes adequately portrayed what I imagine must be the "confusion of battle."
One thing I would like to say in response to something the reviewer said in the article I posted above: Russell Crowe may have really been playing the violin for the camera, but what we heard was not his playing. I believe the violin was over-dubbed. Effective, nevertheless.
I say, "Two violin bows up!! Huzzah!"
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 9:51:32 PM
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Tomahawks up indeed, Many Flags!
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Originally posted by Many Flags
Master and Commander gets a "tomahawk up" from me. Well done, rousing, enjoyable familiar music, made me glad for what I do (fight the French and Savages!!). Malcolm sat beside me the whole time and huzzahed his way through it!! Pax Aye!!
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Posted - November 15 2003 : 9:54:46 PM
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Originally posted by Wilderness Woman
We went to the late matinee today. To echo Roger Ebert... It Was Glorious!!
Magnificent photography; excellent acting by everyone and especially Russell Crowe; beautiful use of classical music, as Flags said. I don't know how much of it was computer graphics, but the ship was amazing inside and out. The battle and hand-to-hand scenes adequately portrayed what I imagine must be the "confusion of battle."
One thing I would like to say in response to something the reviewer said in the article I posted above: Russell Crowe may have really been playing the violin for the camera, but what we heard was not his playing. I believe the violin was over-dubbed. Effective, nevertheless.
I say, "Two violin bows up!! Huzzah!"
Your right, Joyce. Crowe (a musician in his own right) new from the start that the music would be dubbed, but he intensely studied the violin to get the feeling and the moves down. That was one of my quibbles with the review.
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Posted - November 16 2003 : 2:26:39 PM
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Well, he did a durned good job of faking it! He almost... almost had me fooled, but because I play the violin, I was able to see that his fingering did not quite match what I was hearing. I think, though, that was him doing the guitar-style plucking in the end scene.
Oh yeah! The powdered wig! I kept waiting for that! Do you suppose he wore it in some scene that was eventually cut, and perhaps the reviewer saw an early edit?? Or perhaps the guy fell asleep (who could?)during the movie and dreamed he saw Crowe in a powdered wig!
BTW... Russell Crowe reminds me very much of the late, great Richard Burton. Anyone else see this?? |
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Posted - November 16 2003 : 4:21:21 PM
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Weir mentioned that his other thought for the lead role was Burton. Availability was a problem, however.
The only wig that figures significantly in the books is Stephen's disreputable physician's wig, which is used for various purposes in addition to sitting on his head.
It appears nowhere in the movie. |
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Posted - November 17 2003 : 03:11:26 AM
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I saw this today.What an excellent movie.I give it 5 stars.Huzza! |
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| I've seen the film twice now, and I like it a lot. I can't think of another movie that even comes close to portraying the same level of authenticity. But, the one thing that really sticks out as inauthentic, is the captain of a RN warship running around all over the ship like a little kid. I haven't read the books, but I suspect this is the same there. You just can't have as interesting a protagonist, if he's standing on the weatherdeck giving orders the whole time. It's more entertaining to have the captain running all over, climbing the rigging, and leading a boarding party, doing everything, but it's not authentic. |
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Posted - November 19 2003 : 4:13:25 PM
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| I mentioned that on another board with a similar thread. It's akin to Capt. James T. Kirk leading the Away Teams with all his leading officers every mission, it just wouldn't have happened. Especially that hanging over the side by a rope around the wrist as extra ballast. Although Nelson was known to have done some similar antics in his time. "Nelson at St. Vincent, grappled up the Spanish 2nd rater San Nicolas and clammered up onto the deck and having subdued the majority of the crew, used the San Nicolas to climb up onto the 1st rater San Josef. The tactic bacame known as "Nelson's Patent Bridge For Boarding" in the Royal Navy". Only other thing I thought was strange was that they lost only one man from the rigging during all the bad weather and that was from the mount gallant snapping off. I would have thought that at least one man would have been tossed overboard. I know they were all very experienced able seamen, but I still thought there would have been one accident. Oh and wasn't it considered "bad luck" to kill an Abatross? Of course it was to the Doctor... but really wasn't that the superstition? |
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Having received a severe sabre wound at the first onset, whilst charging a party of the enemy who had rallied on their forecastle, I was only capable of giving command till asured our conquest was complete
From a letter of the frigate HMS Shannon's Captain Philip Bowes Vere Broke to "Captain the Hon. T. Bladen" regarding Broke's victory over the United States frigate Chesapeake. (My emphasis, original spelling.)
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Posted - November 25 2003 : 2:45:09 PM
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Well, he did a durned good job of faking it! He almost... almost had me fooled, but because I play the violin, I was able to see that his fingering did not quite match what I was hearing.
Ah, me too!! Well, I haven't played in about 10 years, but I have to say his faking it was a lot better than others I have seen try. Have you seen "Beautiful" with Minnie Driver? One of the girls who makes it the finals plays the violin as her talent and boy can you tell by sight alone her fingers don't match the music!
Do you play often? I had to give up my instrument when I graduated HS; I bought one about 5 years ago, but it doesn't stay in tune and I rather sucked when I tried to play again. LOL
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For those of you who really liked this movie and are thinking about purchasing the DVD, this just came through on one of the lists I belong to:
"If you were impressed with the film, take a look at the DVD 2 disc Collector's Gift Set. Aside from a map and booklet there are 8 DVD Special Features including the 70 minute "The Hundred Days" made for this release.
For those who remember the Rose, the methods used in bringing her to period perfection and the building of the identical ship used in the pool are wonderful. Selection of cast, training,research, costuming, makeup, choreography of battle scenes, are all part of the Hundred Days.
Other specials include multi-angle battle scene studies, cannon fire audio feeds, Cinematic Phasmids, Still Galleries. The latter includes conceptual art drawings and period naval art, technical drawings and construction blueprints used to construct the ships and sets.
This is a keeper."
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