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Posted - September 28 2009 :  03:46:46 AM  Show Profile
I guess you all remember the scene from LOTM where the mountain lion was seen lurking in the laurel thicket, well here is a picture taken from a friends remote deer camera last night! My friend is an avid deer hunter and had been watching this big buck waiting for muzzle loading season. It looks to me like the big cat beat him to the punch! Take a second and look at the size of the buck and then how easy the cat is dragging the carcass. I would not want to end up as this guys next recipe. The picture was taken here in Cherokee County, NC near Murphy. The mountain lions seem to be making a comeback since there has been multiple sightings in the area with at lease one sighting of a pair together. Thought you folks might enjoy seeing nature up close and natural like it was back in Mohicanland.

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Posted - September 28 2009 :  06:49:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Quite a shot, shadwick. Been rumors of sightings here in western NC for a long time. Now we know!!
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Posted - September 28 2009 :  07:57:30 AM  Show Profile  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Certainly hope that cat has a license, - outta season on top of that. .... There's NO question there are cats on the east coast. Pictures have been taken, one by a cop with his dash cam, - in Maine. ... Back in the third week in February 2003, I remember it like it was yesterday, I was just starting out on a hike on Pack Monadnock, after some snow during the night. Not more than 250-300 yards in I came across a number of VERY wide (not long) tracks, fresh tracks. It was still cloudy - so no sun to widen/enlarge them. They were so wide I could put my hand in, - and did. I could still move my hand back & forth a little in the track. A little further in, still more tracks. Very shortly after that I met a middle aged couple coming down the trail. Instead of a "hi" - the first thing the guys says is - "have you seen those ******* tracks???" ... A week or so later I mentioned it to a state game worker, - he said they probably were mountain lion tracks, - a lone cat, because we don't have a breeding population. .... Great pic - watch someone from the state will question where it was actually taken. ;)

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Posted - September 28 2009 :  08:55:59 AM  Show Profile  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Asheville Citizen-Times
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Wildlife commission: No mountain lions in WNC

Staff Reports September 25, 2009 11:59 AM
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RALEIGH The N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission is warning the public that a photograph of a mountain lion purported to be taken in western North Carolina is actually from Texas.
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A photograph that has been circulating, mainly via e-mail in the western counties of the state, shows a mountain lion dragging a deer. Some report that the photo was taken in the Marion area, while others say it was taken in Old Fort or Burnsville.

In reality, the photo was taken by a trail camera on a ranch in south Texas, where mountain lions are common.

It is one of several mountain lion hoaxes that have circulated through several states in the past few weeks, and the e-mails in each state claim that the photograph was taken locally.

Over the past several years there have been at least three such mountain lion hoaxes and, in each case, the same photographs are passed around by e-mail and cell phone with text claiming that the photographs were taken locally.

One such hoax involves a photograph of a man posing with a dead mountain lion. The mountain lion was actually killed by a vehicle in Arizona and the man in the photograph is an Arizona Public Safety officer. Another is a series of photographs showing a mountain lion on a porch, but the home is actually in Wyoming.

There is no physical evidence to support the existence of a wild mountain lion population in North Carolina.

The only mountain lions that have been recovered in the state over the past 50 years were two adults that were shot and killed at a dumpster in eastern North Carolina in the 1980s. Examination of the two animals revealed that they had identification tattoos, indicating that they were illegally held captive animals that either escaped or were released.

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Posted - September 28 2009 :  12:57:14 PM  Show Profile  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
All I can say is that I (along with several others it turns out) have been snookerd! Sorry to be a vehicle to further perpertrate a hoax! Since I received the picture from my son late last night (see the posting time) indicating it was forwarded from a friend of ours that we both know I immediately passed it own without question, I am sorry. I know the gentleman John Lutz, that is the director of the Eastern Puma Research Center (http://www.easternpumaresearch.com/). I also forwarded the picture on to him and sadly he replied this morning with information about the hoax, here is his reply to me:

JIM:

Sorry to tell you...but this picture was bootlegged off the
Buckmaster.com website about 2 weeks ago...by at least 3 dozen people.

This TEXAS cougar did NOT bring that buck down in NORTH CAROLINA.

This incident occurred in Texas. IT WAS A STAGED EVENT, with a previously
captured 7-point DEAD buck, already been gutted & left on side of
road...with scent over it. Along came the 'pet' cougar, which was
instructed to pick up the buck & carry it off...directly in front of a
trail camera.

I'm NOT kidding.

John A. Lutz
EASTERN PUMA RESEAECH NETWORK
HC 30 Box 2233
Maysville, WV 26833
304-749-7778

Monadnock Guide, Contrary to what NC Wildlife Resources say, there is a population of mountain lions here in Western NC, as John Lutz can attest to, his site is very interesting and if any remember the episode of Monster Quest on the History Channel that dealt with the big black cats seen in the Eastern US, he was a principal contributor and considered an expert in the field, that is why I ran the photo by him. In the last three months there has been mountain lions spotted in the immediate area with witnesses ranging from County law enforcement (crossing a 4-lane highway) multiple witnesses, to several individual reports of lone sightings as well as two of two cats together, thought to be a breeding pair. In addition, I have personally seen a big cat one night on my farm (the old cabin area that is shown in my photo album here on Mohicanland) I had two big mixed hounds and they were as far back under the porch and whinning that I could not even drag them out, that is what scared me since I had seen both of them run in and fight bears and hogs. John said that was a typical response from dogs that had not encounterd a cat before. Anyway again I am sorry!


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Posted - September 28 2009 :  2:40:17 PM  Show Profile  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Shad, - I don't doubt for a second that there are "large cats" in your neck of the woods. I did see that documentary on the History Channel also, enjoyed it. About 10-12 years ago, a few miles south of where I saw those tracks, near the Quabbin Reservoir down in Mass. - mountain lion scat was found. It was sent for analysis - and came back as from a lion. There's no question there are lions along the east coast, just not a large population - thank G*d.

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Posted - September 28 2009 :  4:06:14 PM  Show Profile  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
MG, I have heard folks say "the mountain lions are making a comeback," I am beginning to believe that they are not an increase in their number as I now belive that the increased sightings result from an ever decreasing natural habitat. Everywhere you look down here there are new subdivisions with more houses and roads. My farm is now surrounded by them (if you ever heard the song "Daddy won't sell the farm," sung by Montgomery Gentry you will understand that I share the sentiment. We also have an increase of bear sightings which again makes me think that they are being forced into more public spaces with more potential to be seen with the increased number of people living in the area. I actually feel sorry for wild animals, except for the coyotes which are amazing at adapting to a changing enviromnet, they are really in a bind with loss of habitat. In the Great Smoky Mountain park and some of the local National Forests and some Game Lands, they have reintroduced the Eastern elk and the Eastern red wolf. If you are ever in the area try to take the time and visit 'Cades Cove," in the park It is a great place to watch nature.
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Posted - September 28 2009 :  5:57:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yep, read a similar article in the McDowell News ... yet another Internet hoax!
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