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Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 24 2008 : 12:35:05 AM
When Duncan first meets Cora at Albany, she is watching what seems to be a press, a huge stone wheel being rotated in a circular trough with a man feeding additional "things" in. Any idea what they are pressing?
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James N. Posted - September 23 2008 : 8:01:28 PM
For Fitz: The Cora-meets-Heyward scene wasn't filmed at the old hotel in Asheville which provided the settings for Webb's headquarters. It was filmed at Vanderbilt's Biltmore Estate, just like the iconic "bridge" and the "burial mounds" scenes were. The structure was, if I remember right, a carriage house or garage, some distance from the mansion but fairly close to the gardens. It was enclosed by a high wall which formed a sort of courtyard, keeping everything inside discreetly out-of-sight.
RedFraggle Posted - September 03 2008 : 7:31:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bookworm

Maybe a Summer Rambo tries to outwit a Northern Spy?


I like it!
di-mc Posted - September 03 2008 : 1:59:55 PM


As to the thought that the apples were just harvested and the date would be too early for that to have been possible - perhaps they were last years apples. Apples can keep very well in "root cellars". I believe they pressed apples for cider, so they did not have to be fresh.
Bookworm Posted - September 01 2008 : 12:00:23 PM
At least the cantaloupes, seen when Duncan & Co. are approaching Webb's HQ, are correct for the season!

Seems as though "Summer Rambo" should lend itself to a good joke, but it's hard to think of anything. Maybe a Summer Rambo tries to outwit a Northern Spy?
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 31 2008 : 11:16:43 PM
Another thing just occurred to me. Where was the apple press located? This year we went to the location of the Albany scenes where Webb, Winthrop, and Duncan all met, and saw where the blacksmith shop was. Maybe the apple press was in that location?
RedFraggle Posted - August 27 2008 : 7:39:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams

I doubt that Michael Mann let the availably of NC apples affect his shooting schedule. He probably flew them in from where ever they happened to be available.


Or just sent a flunkie to a buy a bunch from the nearest grocery store. Now that apples are available year-round, it doesn't matter what season it is and it probably doesn't occur to most people (like MM, obviously) to think that apples would have been seasonal fruits back in the 18th century!
Stephanie Posted - August 26 2008 : 7:27:51 PM
I know of someone who was picking apples in NC in mid-July. I thought it was a bit early, but they did.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 26 2008 : 6:35:27 PM
I doubt that Michael Mann let the availably of NC apples affect his shooting schedule. He probably flew them in from where ever they happened to be available.
James N. Posted - August 26 2008 : 4:23:08 PM
This probably won't help matters any, but the scenes filmed at Biltmore were among the first to be shot, in mid-to-late June; I don't know if or how that would have affected the source for apples in North Carolina, though!
RedFraggle Posted - August 25 2008 : 6:57:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bookworm

. . . the earliest apples of the season, Summer Rambos . . .

This name made me laugh, for some reason. Rambo apples. Tee hee.

(Can you tell it's been a long day for me? )
caitlin Posted - August 24 2008 : 9:07:19 PM
The contraption is an "arasta". Hope I got the spelling right. According to my husband, it was originally designed for crushing and grind everything from gold, corn, or wheat. Granted, apples wouldn't be far off the mark as well.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 24 2008 : 5:58:05 PM
I picked up on this while watching LOTM last night. It was on back-to-back for 4 hours! My daughter was up from Edgefield with the two granddaughters, and as she passed by on the way to their bedroom, she said, "What are you watching? Last of the Mohicans? You know, I have never seen that movie". I couldn't believe my ears. Well, next time she comes up without the girls, we are going to have an LOTM session. I suppose I should leave comments about the apple press, the bearskin hats on the guards, lack of militia at Fort WH, pistol won't fit in pocket, not really a waterfall you can jump through, and other such things for later times, and just concentrate on watching the DVD. I just don't know if I can do that!!!
Obediah Posted - August 24 2008 : 5:43:10 PM
After all the many threads about LOTM's lack of historical authenticity, what's one more? Or would this be lack of agricultural authenticy??
Monadnock Guide Posted - August 24 2008 : 4:44:25 PM
No doubt an early Autumn ...
Bookworm Posted - August 24 2008 : 3:19:33 PM
Good point, Fitz. Here in south-central PA the earliest apples of the season, Summer Rambos, are now available in farmers' markets, but August 1 would be pretty early even for this well-south-of-Albany location.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 24 2008 : 10:18:45 AM
But apples? Fort William Henry surrendered the 9th of August, so pushing back the travel time.....let's see....three days to get the siege guns in place, then a couple of days after the ambush, then the time spent marching from Albany (unknown), so just a guess, 6 days minimum from the time Cora watched the pressing operation. That means the apples were harvested by the 1st of August, or there abouts. Now, granted I am not familiar with the growing seasons in upstate New York, and that things are probably a little different up there, but that does seem a little early for apples to be ripening on the tree. Is this one more for my "list"?
Diane B. Posted - August 24 2008 : 08:17:02 AM
Hi Fitz,

I believe the "things" being pressed are apples. Perhaps the Colonials used them to make their own version of "Ping," ha ha!!!

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