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| MaguasBastardChild |
Posted - October 19 2007 : 3:40:36 PM
Did hawkeyes buddy that got hawkeye almost hanged for escpaing the fort ever make it? I thought i saw him getting hacked up by the indians when they (the train of people from the fort) got ambushed. Furthermore, since Magua got killed, was the killing of the innocent frontiersman families going to stop? Was magua the catalyst to all that since Hawkeye told the general about what was happening? |
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| Fitzhugh Williams |
Posted - November 28 2007 : 3:30:28 PM
If the "Rule of 16" is enforced (which I can't imagine it will be) the Sauvage have said they will sit on top of Mt. Defiance and watch the battle, as this is historically correct! |
| Wilderness Woman |
Posted - November 28 2007 : 12:28:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams
When Montcalm accepted the surrender and granted the terms he did, the Indians felt betrayed. Without their plunder, there was no reason for them to fight. The next year at Carillon (Ticonderoga) only 16 Indians fought with him. So the word has gone out for next summer, "which 16 of you get to be with the French?".
 I'll wager you will have far more than that number fighting on your side, Fitz! Fort Ti is a very popular event with your Indian allies. Trust me... they sing and dance well into the night on Saturday evening... |
| Hawkeye_Joe |
Posted - November 25 2007 : 8:19:06 PM
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Originally posted by Steve S
As I recall,(and I'm talking historically,not book or novel),when the French natives killed the injured in the hospital(not shown),they managed to pick up smallpox which spread rapidly amongst them,counting most of them out for the rest of that years' campaign...in fact they never gathered to the French flag in such numbers again.
Steve
They dug up many of the bodies on the fort's cemetary and scalped them. Being that many were smallpox victims they contracted the disease and carried it back to the tribes. Also in one of the first recorded instances of germ warfare Gen. Amherst sent smallpox infected blankets to the Indian tribes as gifts.. |
| Fitzhugh Williams |
Posted - November 25 2007 : 4:45:51 PM
When Montcalm accepted the surrender and granted the terms he did, the Indians felt betrayed. Without their plunder, there was no reason for them to fight. The next year at Carillon (Ticonderoga) only 16 Indians fought with him. So the word has gone out for next summer, "which 16 of you get to be with the French?". |
| Steve S |
Posted - November 25 2007 : 3:59:05 PM
As I recall,(and I'm talking historically,not book or novel),when the French natives killed the injured in the hospital(not shown),they managed to pick up smallpox which spread rapidly amongst them,counting most of them out for the rest of that years' campaign...in fact they never gathered to the French flag in such numbers again.
Steve
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| RedFraggle |
Posted - November 24 2007 : 11:45:45 PM
Welcome to the board, TomBowie! Happy posting.  |
| TomBowie |
Posted - November 23 2007 : 5:06:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that the settler you are thinking of isn't Jack Winthrop. It's one of the colonials who says "Got no families 'cap. Figured we'd stay and lend a hand." That's the guy who gets killed later in the massive ambush. They do look similar, though. |
| Light of the Moon |
Posted - October 20 2007 : 1:09:56 PM
Interesting point. Never really crossed my mind that Magua would use that tactic to help stir up trouble for the french.
Well done, MBC. Lots of Magua threads. Nice change! |
| MaguasBastardChild |
Posted - October 19 2007 : 7:34:58 PM
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Originally posted by winglo
My understanding is that once Magua was killed no one would be going after Col. Monro's daughter's anymore. I didn't get the sense that this would stop the killing of settlers on the frontier. In fact, I don't think that's what Magua was about. He was after Col. Monro and his daughters for revenge.
I think you are speaking of Jack Winthrop when you mentioned Hawkeye's friend. I got the sense that he got away from the fort o.k., since when he was being arrested Hawkeye told Chingachgook that he helped "Jack and the others leave."
It seemed Magua was purposely pissing off the settlers to stir up the English, and to make his French buddies stronger. I thought he was acting as his own renegade indian commander doing this but that didnt represent the other indians on the frontier, nor his tribe. I do agree with Maguas actions, he had reason to be pissed off. Its too bad he didnt live. I like when the 'bad' guys live or win in the end, like good the bad and the ugly , when Tuco (really a bad guy) but the ugly. gets half the loot at the end |
| winglo |
Posted - October 19 2007 : 3:47:20 PM
My understanding is that once Magua was killed no one would be going after Col. Monro's daughter's anymore. I didn't get the sense that this would stop the killing of settlers on the frontier. In fact, I don't think that's what Magua was about. He was after Col. Monro and his daughters for revenge.
I think you are speaking of Jack Winthrop when you mentioned Hawkeye's friend. I got the sense that he got away from the fort o.k., since when he was being arrested Hawkeye told Chingachgook that he helped "Jack and the others leave." |
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