Re: Could I respectfully ask...

Posted by Bill R on October 06, 1999 at 11:47:37:

In Reply to: Re: Could I respectfully ask... posted by MMMMarcia on October 06, 1999 at 09:31:01:

: Good Morning, Doctor M!

: I agree with you that the DAR posts probably need to wrap it up, however, I would like to ask your permission to say one little, tiny thing, myself, regarding issues mentioned in one of them. I stayed out of the whole discussion, being ignorant of any great knowledge on the subject, though I suspect that like most things in life, the DAR has many positives and some negatives associated with it. But it is very hard for me to NOT take a stand on Patriotism. I was born in this country, and will no doubt die in this country, and I am PROUD of this country. I stand happily to pledge allegiance to America, and I sing the National Anthem with pride, and while there are certainly MANY issues to debate regarding our government, past history, present issues, and future possibilities, I love being an American. I'm not blind to injustices done, and certainly am willing to try to prevent new ones from being perpetrated, but all things considered, I think this is the greatest country in the world.
: If being patriotic makes anyone feel like "throwing up," I say hurl away...Doc Mary can probably recommend a stomach specialist.

: Just my thoughts, and I don't mind at all if this post gets deleted, now that I've had my say.

: Color me Patriotic and Proud,
: MMMMarcia

Color me the same way Marcia. And those who want to can sneer all they want. I dont think there is anything wrong with being patriotic. In fact, one of the things that make humans a noble creation is their willingness to sacrifice for higher ideals such as family, home, hearth, country, God and other people. I can't help but think that if more people saw value in those virtues, the world would be a kinder and more noble place. I got a chill just as easily hearing the French or Soviet national anthem at the Olympics as I did hearing the American anthem when a gold medal was presented. I respect those who respect themselves and their country and are willing to put out the maximum effort for that country - for they are really putting out the maximum effort for the PEOPLE in that country, not its beaurocracy.

I am NOT embarrassed to put the flag out, say the pledge, or bow my head when a prayer is said. I would be embarrassed NOT to.
It would be a betrayal of all those who payed the highest price from 1775 to 2000 in defense of this country and other countries not to.

Now, like Marcia, I feel Rich is welcome to delete this thread if he desires - I have had MY say also. And stood to be counted.
I survived the sneers and comments of the misled or intellectually arrogant in 1967 and 1968 on returning home. My skin is thick on this issue. And I was proud, nay sought, to go twice more when other crises arose.

I have found that those who sneer the greatest scream for help the loudest when the thugs of the world disrupt their comfortable little arrogance. They are the first to cry for help.

Bill R

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• Re: Could I respectfully ask... MMMMarcia 11:54:58 10/06/99 (1)
  • Agree with you Marcia about the deletion.. Bill R 12:10:55 10/06/99 (0)

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: : Good Morning, Doctor M!

: : I agree with you that the DAR posts probably need to wrap it up, however, I would like to ask your permission to say one little, tiny thing, myself, regarding issues mentioned in one of them.  I stayed out of the whole discussion, being ignorant of any great knowledge on the subject, though I suspect that like most things in life, the DAR has many positives and some negatives associated with it.  But it is very hard for me to NOT take a stand on Patriotism.  I was born in this country, and will no doubt die in this country, and I am PROUD of this country.  I stand happily to pledge allegiance to America, and I sing the National Anthem with pride, and while there are certainly MANY issues to debate regarding our government, past history, present issues, and future possibilities, I love being an American.  I'm not blind to injustices done, and certainly am willing to try to prevent new ones from being perpetrated, but all things considered, I think this is the greatest country in the world. 
: : If being patriotic makes anyone feel like "throwing up," I say hurl away...Doc Mary can probably recommend a stomach specialist.  

: : Just my thoughts, and I don't mind at all if this post gets deleted, now that I've had my say.

: : Color me Patriotic and Proud, 
: : MMMMarcia

: Color me the same way Marcia.  And those who want to can sneer all they want.  I dont think there is anything wrong with being patriotic.  In fact, one of the things that make humans a noble creation is their willingness to sacrifice for higher ideals such as family, home, hearth, country, God and other people. I can't help but think that if more people saw value in those virtues, the world would be a kinder and more noble place.  I got a chill just as easily hearing the French or Soviet national anthem at the Olympics as I did hearing the American anthem when a gold medal was presented.  I respect those who respect themselves and their country and are willing to put out the maximum effort for that country - for they are really putting out the maximum effort for the PEOPLE in that country, not its beaurocracy.

: I am NOT embarrassed to put the flag out, say the pledge, or bow my head when a prayer is said.  I would be embarrassed NOT to.
: It would be a betrayal of all those who payed the highest price from 1775 to 2000 in defense of this country and other countries not to.

: Now, like Marcia, I feel Rich is welcome to delete this thread if he desires - I have had MY say also.  And stood to be counted.
: I survived the sneers and comments of the misled or intellectually arrogant in 1967 and 1968 on returning home.  My skin is thick on this issue.  And I was proud, nay sought, to go twice more when other crises arose.

: I have found that those who sneer the greatest scream for help the loudest when the thugs of the world disrupt their comfortable little arrogance.  They are the first to cry for help.

: Bill R


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