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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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 Posted - December 31 2004 : 8:05:16 PM
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Warlord - how to say this? - I'm perfectly willing to discuss myself, but on my board, not here where nobody cares except you. Actually, you don't either, you're just trying to deflect attention from Mr. Wiggs' fabrications, and that only because you two have found each other for rather wretched mutual support. Or just trying to get some indication your opinion is worth something to someone. Not here, I don't think.
I say again, query me on my board, I'll respond with the numerous pieces that have been on the web for a long time that will answer your rather silly and pointless question. Like you, I hope, I finished third grade. If you want to take comfort that I went no further, fine with me. But at this point, it's you who is avoiding the answer to your question. I've told you where to get the answer to your question.
Really, the reality is on the board. You can be an idiot with a graduate degree, and you can be a foppy coward in a uniform. It only matters what's posted here. I've been wrong, I've been right. I've admitted to both.
Again, Warlord, you need to learn to read and be willing to do it. You need to know who the Leckies are, to start with.
Custer had debts of over $15k at his death and positive valuation of about $2100. Mrs. Custer, with her insurance, was still in debt by at least $5k. You can check Custer's Estate, File 2458, Monroe County Probate Court in Michigan, per Leckie's documented research. Page 207 in her book. Or the Army and Navy Journal, July 21, 1883. Or Lawrence Frost "Custer's Libbie" page 239. Plus the other references you've been given. On July 13, following the battle, an Army veteran wrote the New York Herald and described her as "reduced to beggary." Or virtually anywhere, Warlord. You're the one with no documentation or the slightest idea what you're screaming about. Again. Your summation of my referencing Reno's autopsy is almost opposite of what I said. Very Wiggs like. |
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Anonymous Poster8169
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Posted - December 31 2004 : 9:59:23 PM
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Joe: It is definitely strange that I am trying to get this guy to show who he is and have a discussion with him about it and he has to take time out from attacking me to attack you when you were not involved.
That wasn't an "attack" --- and as for your discussion, except for you I don't think anyone cares. If I had been flaunting something, and strutting around claiming some kind of special authority over others (though on what here I don't know) it wouldn't matter if anybody cared --- I'd feel an obligation to put everything on a plate myself. I've not created any reason to do that though.
I was simply asked a few days ago if I'd been to college, and out of politeness I answered, giving the bare facts, though noting their irrelevance --- and paused too to make a larger point about the irrelevance of all those who try to make their not very applicable private backgrounds something on which to base a claim on Custer, or the cavalry, or archaeology, or whatever other **** dump, a practice popular lately which I haven't been enthused with, and I think rather dangerous if encouraged, because it is inherently distorting. Had I known it would be seen by some as an invitation to start demanding my whole curriculum vitae, I wouldn't have said even that much.
Evidently I'm more reclusive than others, though I can't believe that I'm the only one who does not feel an overarching need to share on the internet details such as the town where I live, where I go to school, where I work, what I look like, or even my full name. If some are annoyed by that, they have no right to be. I don't understand those who do.
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Anonymous Poster8169
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Posted - December 31 2004 : 11:49:06 PM
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Both of your replies indicate a shrillness attempting to hide the true facts regarding yourselves! Quite sad. I would never have asked except you both started denigrating my credentials in a most ungentlemanly manner. Now put up or shut up!
Your "credentials" provide no insight into Custer or the battle. So far as I know, no one's does. Put that up.
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DC's substantiation is better now, showing he finally researched the matter. Unfortunately there is no real analysis as usual! Dealing with anyone's finances is a chancy business at best. It is almost always a transitory business. Those who filed bankruptcy last year may be rich next year. Libby Custer was in a very good position to exploit her husbands memory in providing for herself. A lady in that position could likely liquidate a 5K debt rather quickly, as she did.
Wasn't that exactly what he was arguing, and you disputing? That she was in financial trouble and used her husband and her pen to get out of it? What is there to argue now?
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Also, I will continue to discuss both you and larsens lack of credentials as I feel it is related to the discussion. Your silly claims about me not being able to read and Wiggs being a deliberate liar all point to how silly and rather hysterical you get in your argumentation. Larsen's last posting again speaks for itself and does not need me to elaborate on it! Law school student, HA!
Well of course it speaks for itself, that's what it was meant to do.
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BJMarkland
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Posted - January 01 2005 : 04:49:49 AM
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For the first time, I am sorry I listened to Larsen! In a side converstation about a research project I am doing, he mentioned that you, Warlord, was acting rational (my paraphrase of Larsen's brief aside). However, when I read crap such as this:
"You both have no standing until you post your education/experience. I have answered your questions about myself, now it is your turn and not on your puffing website! Both of your replies indicate a shrillness attempting to hide the true facts regarding yourselves! Quite sad. I would never have asked except you both started denigrating my credentials in a most ungentlemanly manner."
I just want to ask one question! Or maybe two or three. But, you are the one who first came onto the board blowing up your credentials as ex-military and an analyst. Thus, they are a valid topic of conversation/debate. The rest of us have no obligation to give anything about our lives to you except our opinions about the facts of the Great Sioux War.
While I have no qualms about giving my name and qualifications, this boad is more of a sounding board to me to understand things about the Ft. Phil Kearny saga better. As such, I am not going to go into details about whether there was one teepee or two or a whole bloody village...but, that said, if I have an opinion, I at least will try to base it on fact or, if just a gut feeling, will state so. And I will not try to denigrate someone's opinion because I disagree with them. That puts me as a minority I am sure but then again, I think the Custer fight was just the logical outcome of a misguided governmental policy extending back to at least 1865.
We had a military officer, who while competent in "total war", was less than when dealing with guerilla warfare-which is essentially what the Indians practiced. Many better soldiers than Custer have been made fools of by practicioners of the "little war". Custer was unfortunate enough to take 200 + men with him when he reached the stark realization that he had outfoxed himself. And no, I don't believe for a second that the outcome was anything but pure numbers, tactics and incompetence. You figure who had what.
Anyway, enough of this bickering....talk about the bloody battle or the campaign or the circumstances or hit the road...
My New Year's Resolution to be "kinder, gentler" lasted for exactly 3 hours.
Merry Christmas.
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - January 01 2005 : 2:27:11 PM
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The evidence has been posted she was broke. The one biography written on her, by a reputable historian from a family of such, says she was broke, and lived in apartments by elevated trains till her first book caught on. You have nothing - zero - to contradict it. Contrary to what you have said, her indebtedness is both well known and accepted and, after all, fact. She accepted financial favors and ended up doing well. Smart cookie. But Custer left her broke.
Custer's gambling debts involving others even appeared in 1883, a six figure amount, that went to court. It was tossed out because it was a gambling debt, and therefore apparently could not be enforced. It's in Leckie's book, documented, and there's more. You can look it up for a change. You've provided nothing here, have been blown out of the water with regularity, have no clue about the battle or Custer, you just want to talk about yourself. You can't provide a posting without the first person any more than you can without an exclamation point. |
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - January 01 2005 : 9:29:00 PM
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For you to analize, Warlord, you have to acquire first grade knowledge of the subject, which you have not done. Further, your offered analysis is simply wishful thinking on your part, hopeful supposition posing as reality. You need to read the Leckie book but, at this point, you need to demonstrate you've read any book on Custer - not Guns'n'Ammo, not gamesites for wannabes - a book. An entire book.
The first one is always the hardest, and its a bear to be responsible for someone's first book, but since with each posting you demonstrate your ingnorance of both the subject and people, it can only help you.
And to the surprise of nobody you haven't gone to my site and raised your question. What a shock. |
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 02 2005 : 11:59:50 AM
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I never asked for your credentials, I don't think. You constantly refer to them unasked. I've only said I don't believe you know anything about Custer, I doubt you were a soldier, and you were never in combat. I don't value your opinion on much of anything, but you're used to that at this stage in your life, and since here is yet another screed with nothing of value on the forum's topic - yet manages to get in your fascination with certain sexual procedures - I doubt anyone else does either.
For the third or fourth time, in order to keep this forum for Custer and not for the damaged mind of Warlord, if you want to inquire about me, I've shown you where and how. Anyone here who is interested can find your rants at the forum and avoid having their vision sullied by anything else I've written. That you avoid it, as you avoid so much - like reading and providing information - is your failure, nobody else's.
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bhist
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Posted - January 02 2005 : 1:34:28 PM
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I never asked for your credentials, I don't think. You constantly refer to them unasked. I've only said I don't believe you know anything about Custer, I doubt you were a soldier, and you were never in combat. I don't value your opinion on much of anything, but you're used to that at this stage in your life, and since here is yet another screed with nothing of value on the forum's topic - yet manages to get in your fascination with certain sexual procedures - I doubt anyone else does either.
For the third or fourth time, in order to keep this forum for Custer and not for the damaged mind of Warlord, if you want to inquire about me, I've shown you where and how. Anyone here who is interested can find your rants at the forum and avoid having their vision sullied by anything else I've written. That you avoid it, as you avoid so much - like reading and providing information - is your failure, nobody else's.
Since I've, long ago, put Warlord on my "IGNORE LIST" I don't know what he has been writing, but from what you're saying here D.C. it appears that WL has lost his medication again.
I encourage the lamebrain to visit your website. I do, and I find it worthwhile (although at times it pisses me off, but that's ok), people can disagree and post what they think. Of course, I'm sure if WL went off the handle over there like he does here, that D.C. will take care of him (maybe WL is afraid of you, D.C.?)
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - January 02 2005 : 2:31:03 PM
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Compared to you, Warlord, who isn't a genius? You probably hear that a lot, though, don't you?
In any case, you need to huddle with your friends again and formulate your new plan of attack without using so many descriptions of gay sex that so obviously entrance you and, maybe, them.
Among the things you can do is show me where I ever asked for your credentials which, whatever they are, don't relieve you of the accuracy of poseur. When you summon up the courage to post your irrelevant question about me on my board, please do so and then nobody here has to read of your increasingly bizarre reasons not to and your particular fetishes which you're all alone in liking to talk about. They have so little to do with a forum about Custer.
And when you, eventually, have something about Custer, this is the board. |
Dark Cloud
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wILD I
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Posted - January 02 2005 : 5:08:05 PM
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Anonymous Poster8169
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Posted - January 03 2005 : 01:30:44 AM
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larsen: You are your own worst enemy.
If I'm my own worst enemy then I lead a pretty charmed life.
I read your posts, and usually understand your point of view. The trouble, though, is that you litter your postings with straw men rather than evidence. I've been talking with you on another thread about how many Indians were killed at the Little Bighorn, and have directed you to sources which are easily available for you to check and discuss, but you haven't done anything like that for the 1,300 Indian dead you're arguing for. One ought to have reasons for thinking the way they do.
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Anonymous Poster8169
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Posted - January 03 2005 : 01:40:17 AM
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Once again I ask you DC/larsen to post your credentials, your education/experience!!! You asked me for mine and I provided it, now IT IS YOUR TURN!!!
Unless I was posting while asleep somewhere, that's just false. I never asked for your credentials, and it'd be a revelation to me if I did, since I overwhelmingly don't care. I haven't been afraid to state my skepticism sometimes though, since it seems odd to me that someone with a professed career in military intelligence would always state so dogmatically things they have no evidence for. Never having been in military intelligence, I speak from ignorance, but I thought it was your job to convince people of the accuracy of your assessments. Something you're not very good at.
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - January 03 2005 : 4:51:36 PM
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I'm more than cute. I'm absolutely darling, and all my badly paid employees say so. However, I'm so absolutely engaging I don't have to make up people to have conversations with or agree with me. Again, Warlord, show us where either Larsen or I ever asked for your credentials to post in a public forum, and considering you are reduced to zero quotes from any source except your child's gamesite intro and online gun magazine pages, and Larsen and my posts are laced with sources, a most ludicrous form of attack.
People only think Warlord has one other persona? Odd. I bet at least two more. He's not the only one, of course, who does this, although I don't. A fairly hamfisted good cop/bad cop type of presentation, don't you think? |
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 03 2005 : 11:40:19 PM
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Well, back to your fictitious psychologist again, Warlord. Did he ever provide you with a good cover story for you faking a gamesite as a legitimate source, especially for all the books you supposedly have read about this?
Again, Warlord, show us where either Larsen or I asked for your credentials. You said we had. Where? |
Dark Cloud
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Anonymous Poster8169
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Posted - January 04 2005 : 02:06:39 AM
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No Warlord, it's you who keeps on bringing it up. You're the only one here who finds your "career" in "military intelligence" either interesting or relevant. If true, its only usefulness would've been if it had allowed you to develop skills in logic, argumentation, or evidence gathering, but since you obviously lack all such abilities, you bring yourself into disrepute.
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 04 2005 : 2:48:06 PM
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Actually, Warlord, I have no clue who Larsen is. I imagine it is scary when everyone else is, actually, clearly smarter and better read than you are, and you have all the scars of a lifetime of that, but recall you're the one without a single book reference, who's yet to win an argument, and has already declared a desired goal (prove mountains of dead Indians and the sudden unprecedented improvement of cavalry shooting)with no interest in actual truth, just that goal. You have no interest in the truth, you want to be seen publicly extolling soldiers in the hope some of their accomplishment will rub off on you.
Again, Warlord, here's another chance to win something. Just show us where either Larsen or I asked for your credentials as you've repetetivly claimed we have. Should be easy. It was certainly easy to prove you used a gamesite introduction as a source. |
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 05 2005 : 09:21:30 AM
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I'm sure you already have them on your favorites list, Warlord. Yet again, relevant to nothing, you want to talk about your gay fixation, and your record remains clean: no posts containing anything about Custer or the battle, just your pathetic attempt to attain a level of respect you don't deserve.
Just to save you time, despite even Crab's obvious feeling of betrayal, he noted my attractions - magnetic, overpowering - are to women, not men, not dead men. A shudder of disappointment went through the board at that realization. Alas.
Still, this almost cleverly detracted attention away from the fact that, just as Wiggs lied about his own claims against Benteen, Warlord is lying about what he said about Larsen and myself. So, for the sixth time, show us, Warlord, where either Larsen or I requested your stupid credentials. Or, you know, apologize for claiming we had, and for all the other things you have said about Bhist, Markland, Larsen, and myself. No chance of that, of course. Just for the record. Meaningless to me, but it would be right thing to do. |
Dark Cloud
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lorenzo G.
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Posted - January 05 2005 : 09:49:06 AM
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OH! If Benteen could read these lines, he surely would state with a smile: "Oh, guys it's getting a pretty hot affair..."
Hope we'll back soon in the Battle discussion.
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Rich
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Posted - January 06 2005 : 05:30:29 AM
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Boys!
Does this have anything to do with Little Bighorn?
And what's the big to-do about lying & credentials? Anyone who can read can form opinions on this stuff ... and is entitled to express and share them - we're not writing PHD dissertations here.
Jeez Louise ...
Give me a break already! Every discussion degenerates into this quibbling ... |
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 06 2005 : 11:49:26 AM
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Not to put too fine a point on it, Rich, but your accusations against the "boys" are really against only one poster, the IP currently posting under Warlord. He's the only one who feels qualifications need to be posted and approved, apparently by him, and he's the only one making accusations with rather graphic homosexual description.
It's your board, and it can only be assumed you approve of this. |
Dark Cloud
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 07 2005 : 10:53:51 AM
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It's here on the forum, Warlord. The number of your postings with the word Custer or Little Bighorn is far beneath the number with your fetish.
The vast majority of your postings are simply about yourself, and how the world responds to yourself, just as this last one was. Even if you could fabricate me into discourteous mode - and I don't concede that - you can't remotely justify what you've said to Bhist or to Markland or to Larsen. Still up.
Apparently we're not going to be graced with your Whistlingboy anymore, so why not just settle on one (1) user name, read something on this event, and post your opinions? That's the only requirement, as you were just told by the forum host and common sense had suggested all along. Nobody cares what you or I think about other posters. |
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joseph wiggs
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Posted - January 18 2005 : 9:19:15 PM
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"as long as you and try to denigrate others, this fight will go on."
I am convinced that Warlord is correct. I wish it were not so. The reality is that D.c. gleans more satisfaction from degrading others than achieving an open and informative discussion of this battle. Bereft of a true sense of humanity, he equates the ability to articulate as a double edge sword to smote and chastise those he deems inferior. Whom, you may ask, would be straddled with that mantle of subordination; all whose command of English is weaker than his. Secondly, all would disagree with him. His self-complacency is astounding. Warlord and I have been unfortunate enough to have faced, arrested, and prosecuted egocentric parasites who believe that their desires were paramount to the desires of all others. I do not mean to infer that D.c. is a criminal. My experience is that he does not possess the intestinal fortitude to be one. He, as Warlord as so adequately shown, is just a little man with a very large mouth.
There are those on this forum who respect you D.c.and I understand this. However, I would bet a dollar to a donut that not one person on this forum likes you. Sadly, I truly suspect that this reality does not bother you in the least. Feelings of that nature escaped you long, long ago. Finally, I believe that as long as you are determined to deface the values of others, Warlord will be waiting to greet you with your own personal dose of reality. I don't envy you. |
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Posted - January 18 2005 : 11:27:21 PM
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[br I believe that as long as you are determined to deface the values of others, Warlord will be waiting to greet you with your own personal dose of reality. I don't envy you.
Wiggs -- Can you find an incident where I was ever rude to anyone on this forum, excluding Warlord of course because he attacked and slandered me from the beginning? Can you explain to me why you seem to respect someone as despicable as Warlord? Is it because he defends you from D.C. or Larsen, and defends in a caveman style mentality (which is being too kind to the pathetic freak)? Warlord has done nothing but be totally mean spirited, especially against me, and for not one good reason.
All I can make of his rude behavior towards me is he knows me from somewhere along Last Stand Hill or Battle Ridge. I think he’s lying about who he is – after all he’s already posted under other usernames, like Whistlingboy or whatever his name was. He must despise me for standing up to some of the idiots in other Custer organizations who led crusades against some superintendents at LBH? Who knows, but it cannot be explained from within this forum.
Warlord will probably jump in here and claim I attacked him first and if he does, I take this opportunity to call the SOB a liar and if I could, I'd tell him that to his ugly face. I've had to do it before to other Custer Idiots like himself.
I've never attacked anyone on this forum except in a gentleman debate, however, I have attacked the ape like creature Warlord. Too bad I won't be able to read what he says since I have him on my “Ignore The Ugly Bastard” list.
But, my main question is to you (I should include Lorenzo in this as well) why you even give Warlord a "hello?" If anything, you should be complaining to the owner of this board about his loathsome behavior.
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BJMarkland
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Posted - January 19 2005 : 05:21:38 AM
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Now you can't understand other people resenting the rude and crude treatment at the hands of larsen and lavender cloud? Reece, WHY DO YOU THINK I AM HERE?
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Well, to answer the last question before anything else, I would sincerely hope you are here because of an interest in the battle of the Little Big Horn specifically or the Indian Wars generally (as I am).
You know that the LBH is, unaccountably, one of the more controversial miltitary operations in American history. A brief aside, I think it much over-rated in that respect, as I am more interested in "why the hell did Lee order the attack at Malvern Hill & Gettysburg along with what was Hood smoking before he ordered the attack at Franklin." But, we had a former general officer who, to some was charasmatic, to others an SOB; whichever, he was one of the more well known names in an operational position post-Civil War. Then we have the questions about the facts surrounding the LBH: were there extractor problems & did they have an impact, why didn't GAC order adequate reconnaisance made, which path did he take to LSH, did they attack at MTC ford, etc. Whichever way you look at this battle, there are more questions than answers, thus there will be opinions. Since opinions are like anuses (ani?  ) in that everyone has one, it greatly smooths the path of life to disagree in a civil manner, which leads to the gist of my tome.
Paul, this crap between you, "The Avenging Angel", and DC, "Gee, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin", needs to cease or be taken somewhere else. You both have managed to hijack the subject matter, which hopefully we came here specifically for, from LBH to personalities to such a extent that it is often painful to browse or participate. Yes, with events full of questions as at LBH, there will be emotional debate. Fine, that is to be expected to occur, but for crying out loud, argue the message, not the messenger!
Enough said. Anyone with a response please Private Message me to avoid clogging up the threads with more crud. I will post extracts to a throwaway thread on Sound Off with names included if the sender authorizes it.
Now back to extraction and data entry for my Regular Army casualty list. Most unhealthy place to be post-Civil War? Arkansas...troops were dropping like flies from disease down there!
Also, FWIW, I do sort of understand GAC's motives. As a Tier III Technical Analyst for a major telecom, I directly support several major revenue generating products, for which I am called upon to fix when things are broken and likely to stay that way, costing the company hundreds of thousands of dollars a minute. Thus, I totally understand having to make decisions, given limited factual data, that are based upon past experiences in somewhat similar circumstances-often radical decisions. Not many situations are completely black and white, more grey is to be found than anything else. As a result of my work experiences, I also experience the type of second guessing which is inherent in any decisions making capacity (long-winded way of saying I have thick skin!).
Best of wishes,
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - January 19 2005 : 11:03:11 AM
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| Again, Markland, I don't, and the facts don't, accept that. You can find nothing in my posts to approach Warlord's slander and malice. If so, what? Wiggs DOES lie, and Warlord has yet to provide any indication he's remotely read on the battle. Any attempt to achieve an equivilency doesn't wash. |
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