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wILD I
Brigadier General
Ireland
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 Posted - May 04 2005 : 07:59:05 AM
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The Bismarck Tribune of the 6th of July carried the news of the Custer massacre.Now what is fascinating is the fact that it reports the action in great detail.All the stages of the fight are accurately reported.The actions of individual officers are covered,even the scouts Curley and Bloody knife get a mention.It recounts how Custer was expected to act in concert with Gibbon,how practically every trooper but Custer was mutilated.It even goes so far as to suggest Custer was the last to fall.
Considering that it was on July the 2nd that Terry sent a full and confidential report to Gen Sheridan,the report in the Tribune could only have been put together by someone with contacts at army HQ and who interviewed all the main participants.One can only conclude that Terry et al rushed to the press to get their account in first.It is either a brilliant scoop or that copy of the Tribune is spurious.
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - May 04 2005 : 1:45:03 PM
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The one journalist was killed with Custer. Crook had some with him, but no way to get the news to their venues even when they themselves received it, can't recall about Terry. Bismark got the news and published first because scout Muggins Taylor, who I believe was with Terry, carried the news to Ft. Ellis, I recall, and it was telegraphed from there. I don't know if he carried more than military reports, however.
The Bismark paper does have great detail, but much of it balderdash. And this plays right into my recognition scene motif. Nobody could possibly know who the last to fall was, so what was needed for the templates was accorded to Curley, whose testimony was correctly viewed as malleable. It would be interesting to see the actual info Taylor carried and compare it with what the Tribune published. |
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Heavyrunner
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Posted - May 04 2005 : 2:43:33 PM
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| The Bismarck Trib's report was the beginning of the myth that Custer was the last to fall, among others. It's certainly not the first time a writer took poetic license on the facts. However, I wouldn't be too hard on the paper. Journalistic style in that day and age was pretty wild, wILD. |
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movingrobewoman
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Posted - May 04 2005 : 6:21:27 PM
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Warlord and Bob--
You are absolutely correct in your assessment of journalism in the 19th Century. Fair and Balanced--not exactly! As Pulitzer stirred up anti-Spanish war sentiments in regards to the sinking of the Maine, I'm sure there were some editorial pushes to, through the writer's pen, finalise the status of all hostile NAs after the barbaric death of the young Civil War hero.
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BJMarkland
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Posted - May 04 2005 : 7:19:01 PM
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Originally posted by movingrobewoman
Warlord and Bob--
You are absolutely correct in your assessment of journalism in the 19th Century. Fair and Balanced--not exactly! As Pulitzer stirred up anti-Spanish war sentiments in regards to the sinking of the Maine, I'm sure there were some editorial pushes to, through the writer's pen, finalise the status of all hostile NAs after the barbaric death of the young Civil War hero.
Hoka hey!
MRW, glad you are still inhabiting this earth! Yes, I have seen more biased articles in the paper than most because of the research I do. This one I did not find on my own and it shocked me silly! The eminent author of the Wizard of Oz, L. Frank Baum, advocating genocide of the Indians?!!
Wiggs & Wild will go delirious with delight!
http://www.dickshovel.com/TwistedFootnote.html
Best of wishes,
Billy
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - May 04 2005 : 8:54:55 PM
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You might want to read the writings of two quite different men who also served in the 7th not long after Custer's passing. Edgar Rice Burroughs and the author of the Shadow, whose name eludes me. The latter was a genuine bigot of the first water. Burroughs far more open minded. Obviously, I guess.
Might not be The Shadow. I'll look it up. |
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BJMarkland
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Posted - May 05 2005 : 06:34:49 AM
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"I myself, would consider genocide for all dope dealers and child molesters!"
We are agreed on that.
Notice: The sound everyone just heard is Hades freezing over.
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wILD I
Brigadier General
Ireland
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Posted - May 05 2005 : 08:53:20 AM
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Fellow semi educated, lower class,highly self aggrandizing,highly neurotic hobbists,
It should be noted that the Tribune report states that Mark Kellog was the only professional reporter with the expedition.
Would it be of any historical significance if Terry was the primary and perhaps only source for the report?
The first paragraph leaves no doubt where the blame lies.Squarely with Custer who is reported as having turned down the offer of additional men by Terry who had guessed at the risk involved.It goes on to claim that Custer was expected to act as a scouting force and to act in concert with Gibbon.Having hung Custer it then praises the gallant fight put up by the 7th.
The report mirrors Terry's telegrams to Sheridan.If this was a murder then Terry would have questions to answer.He had motive,the knowledge,the means [telegraph]and the timing fits the scenario. |
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - May 05 2005 : 09:26:28 AM
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| Don't forget Custer himself was a correspondent, if unofficial. He wrote for the Herald in New York, and part of his piece was later published that covered the expedition through the Reno scout. If indeed it is Custer's (it sounds and reads like him but uncredited in Graham), it's a rather disgusting piece of self-promotion. He writes of himself in the third person and is always right, knew things all along, etc. |
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hunkpapa7
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Posted - May 05 2005 : 11:08:24 AM
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Custers last Stand.
Last man standing.
Brave fighter.
Write quick.
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wev'e caught them napping boys
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joseph wiggs
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Posted - July 02 2005 : 9:48:05 PM
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Originally posted by wILD I
The Bismarck Tribune of the 6th of July carried the news of the Custer massacre.Now what is fascinating is the fact that it reports the action in great detail.All the stages of the fight are accurately reported.
I have a copy of the article you have referred to and, have read it several times. I was unable to find a single report that was "accurate." What the article did accomplish was the creation of an editorial that momentarily pacified an enraged public who desperately needed to understand how mere savages could eradicate the "elite" 7Th. The article also promulgated, as mentioned by others, myths that continue to exist to this very day. You are correct when you say that many details were published, albeit erroneous ones. |
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