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wILD I
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 Posted - March 24 2005 : 2:58:21 PM
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Victorian era ended 1901. Edwardian Era ended 1911. This, 1912, was Georgian. It may or may not showcase exclusively Victorian values, but not era.
I think it was an age we were discussing not a reign.Anyway Victoria's 64 years would take more than Edwards 10 to erode.
having only Scott's heroic description
I know how picky you are about historical accuracy so just to point out that you are wrong.There was also Wilson's Diary.And of course Oate's papers where he makes his feelings about Scott plain.He thought he was an asshole. |
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Dark Cloud
Brigadier General
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Posted - March 24 2005 : 3:21:32 PM
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Oates said awful things to his mother about Scott but he said awful things about a lot of people to his mother, or so Huntsford (?) said. In the event, did Wilson or Bowers mention Oates' death in their diaries? I didn't know that. Thought only Scott had.
Markland said 'era' and 1912 ain't in it. What are called Victorian values aren't always. The upper classes protected each other and their social station by inflating things. Nobles weren't barking mad, they were 'eccentric.' Nobility didn't do Minerver Cheevy's, but heroically sacrificed themselves for something or other. That people committed suicide was sometimes puffed up to heroic sacrifice because of the condemnation. You see remanants of this in Custerland, where they now make the claim Custer sacrificed his five companies to save the regiment.... |
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wILD I
Brigadier General
Ireland
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Posted - March 25 2005 : 07:18:36 AM
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He was approaching middle age
Held a senior commission in the armed services
He was fearless.
A strict disaplinarian who inspired in his men equal measures of loyalty and hate.
He had no faith in his 2i/c
He underestimated his opponents.
His command was not trained for the mission.
It was a last chance for glory
He was tactically incompetant and split his command resulting in disaster for his group and near disaster for his support.
He put his ambition before that of his men's lives.
The manner of his departure from this life overshadowed anything he achieved in it.
And his wife stood guardian to the fallen hero's honor while the real heros were forgotten.
I speak of Scott.Sound familiar.
Scott and Custer are interchangeable both interlopers in the Pantheon of heros
Leading Seaman Tom Crean,Col Frederick Benteen.
Front and center. The stage is now yours.
Take a bow.
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - March 25 2005 : 11:53:47 AM
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| This was chatted about before. Along with Amelia Earhart, Scott, Custer, and others a compilation of the Romance of The Incompetent, based on the assumption that people who have 'adventures' are by definition incompetent. |
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wILD I
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Ireland
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Posted - March 25 2005 : 1:58:06 PM
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| Incompetants have massacres.Competants have adventures.Read something of Shackleton. |
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Dark Cloud
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wILD I
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Ireland
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Posted - March 25 2005 : 2:41:57 PM
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The line is Amundson's, I believe. Not mine, in any case.Ah what a pity I thought for a moment it was original |
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joseph wiggs
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Posted - July 01 2005 : 10:15:57 PM
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| Hey everybody, Lorenzo has his own web site http://www.regional-tv.com/a-hp/lorenzo/index.htm He is a great singer and his site presents an opportunity to hear him. |
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Meotzi Mania and Nagging Personal Issues
