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 Posted - April 01 2015 : 12:45:03 PM
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The fighting was over. Now the British and the British Americans could enjoy the fruits of victory. The terms of the Treaty of Paris were harsh to losing France. All French territory on the mainland of North America was lost. The British received Quebec and the Ohio Valley. The port of New Orleans and the Louisiana Territory west of the Mississippi were ceded to Spain for their efforts as a British ally.
It should have been a time to revel in the spoils of war. Instead, the very victory that temporarily brought American colonists close to their British cousins would help tear them apart.
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The American colonists did feel closer to each other. Some of the intercolonial rivalry was broken down in the face of a common enemy. The first sign of nationalism was seen when settlers from all thirteen colonies lay down their lives together in battle. Likewise, the joy of victory was an American triumph. All could share in the pride of success. In many ways, the French and Indian War was a coming of age for the English colonies. They had over a century of established history. They had a flourishing economy.
The Americans proved they could work together to defeat a common foe. Before long, they would do so again.
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Posted - April 02 2015 : 08:28:56 AM
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The port of New Orleans and the Louisiana Territory west of the Mississippi were ceded to Spain for their efforts as a British ally.
"Fearing that Britain's victory over France in the Seven Years' War (1756–63) threatened the European balance of power, Spain allied itself to France but suffered a series of military defeats and ended up having to cede Florida to the British at the Treaty of Paris (1763) while gaining Louisiana from France." |
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Posted - April 02 2015 : 8:36:23 PM
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| That part it seems was left out of the history books, ... or perhaps I slept through that part. |
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Posted - April 03 2015 : 09:48:49 AM
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| At that time, Spain was ruled by the Bourbons who were relatives of the French. There was even fighting in the Philippines between the Spanish and the British. Truly a World War. British Florida also became a refuge for those loyal to the Crown who were driven out of the colonies, mostly Georgia and South Carolina, during the Revolution, as well as a place of imprisonment for people like Christopher Gadsden. |
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Posted - April 03 2015 : 11:13:32 AM
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It's generally accepted that Hopkins' flag was presented to him by Christopher Gadsden, who felt it was especially important for the commodore to have a distinctive personal standard. Gadsden also presented a copy of this flag to his state legislature in Charleston. This is recorded in the South Carolina congressional journals:
"Col. Gadsden presented to the Congress an elegant standard, such as is to be used by the commander in chief of the American navy; being a yellow field, with a lively representation of a rattle-snake in the middle, in the attitude of going to strike, and these words underneath, "Don't Tread on Me!"
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Posted - April 04 2015 : 09:07:02 AM
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| Gadsden was an interesting character. Early on he was a rabble rouser in the tradition of Sam Adams and the New England boys. They even had a Liberty Tree. But then the rebels took over the government and made Gadsden a part of it. He did some things unpopular with the mob, and they turned on him. But in those days the consequences were not the same as in France some years later. |
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 Posted - April 05 2015 : 8:19:06 PM
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France controlled the Louisiana territory from 1699 until it was ceded to Spain in 1762. In the hope of re-establishing an empire in North America, France regained control of the Louisiana territory in 1800 under the rule of Napoleon Bonaparte. A slave revolt in Haiti and an impending war with Great Britain led French officials to sell the Louisiana territory to the United States, who originally sought to purchase the city of New Orleans and its adjacent lands.
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You know Fitz, - the whole thing was stolen to begin with. - It wasn't really Frances territory to sell or ours to buy. ... Can you imagine what would have happened in Europe if the Indians had landed there before the Europeans landed here - and decided who owned what and decided to divide things up??? - Just as bad, or maybe worse - telling the Europeans what God they had to worship??? ... My Gawd, talk about some problems ... |
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Posted - April 06 2015 : 09:20:22 AM
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| People have been taking land ever since they could. Egyptians, Sumerians, Hittites. All depends on who had the biggest army, or the best technology, or the best general. |
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Posted - April 06 2015 : 5:24:03 PM
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| It's easy to understand why they lost - but they still got scr*wed. How many "life time" treaties were simply ignored or torn up??? - Probably enough to make a New York phone book look like a small pamphlet. Fighting to hold onto your land & life doesn't make them villains - who wouldn't??? ... Certainly not the Europeans ... |
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