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blackfootblood
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 Posted - February 17 2010 : 1:37:54 PM
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So I know we have had some recent topics and discussions about cougars but I got some interesting pics forwarded to me today is regards to the four-legged cougars 
A gentleman my husband works with down here in Tx, has a family farm up in West Virginia, near route 23. The other morning they had some visitors playing in the fresh snow. Check out the pics he e-mailed to us:
Oh, I take it he used the zoom on the camera!!
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - February 17 2010 : 4:10:13 PM
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| Interesting indeed, - and in W. Virginia no less. My guess is the sate will deny the pics were taken in W. Virginia. If that fails, they'll say they are nothing more than escaped pets, and unlikely to become a problem. They're fairly young, - there will be more. - A few months ago one of our F&G folks went out to humor someone over near the coast after a cat sighting. Unfortunately he didn't bring a camera - 'cause he ended up "getting a close look" at a live one. Not something he had planned on I'm sure. In any case, it's the only one, possibly a pet, or just passing through, and unlikely to be a problem. ;) |
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 12:11:06 AM
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| Since they don't really exist, why not just put an imaginary .357 through it's not-existent head. Then no more false sitings. |
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BookwormMG
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 06:55:45 AM
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| West Virginia??? Why, that borders Pennsylvania, they could walk right up here! Or maybe they (or their parents) walked down there from here. Those are three healthy-looking kitties. I did wonder why there would be three of them together, as I was under the impression that mountain lions were solitary creatures -- thanks for explaining that they're young, MG. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 07:22:37 AM
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Fitz, - funny you should mention that. Several years ago I read about a guy that called the local police in his state (don't recall the state) to report a mountain lion. He was assured he was wrong, there were no lions around anywhere near him. - So, he said if there's no lions around, then "I guess it's ok to shoot this one". - He was told if he did he'd be arrested. ;)
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BW - I posted that link on another site, and one poster there said this same photo was being sent out in Utah. Who knows where it was taken, - but those ARE dangerous kitties to have in your yard. |
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Diane B.
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 08:12:06 AM
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Since they don't really exist, why not just put an imaginary .357 through it's not-existent head.
I'm sure there will be many who would disagree with what I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway! Mountain lions, wolves & other predators are important to the natural order of things. They have to live SOMEWHERE & wherever the pictures came from, I pray that the neighboring human population can appreciate their presence & refrain from organizing a hunting party to track them down & kill them.
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 09:41:05 AM
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| In this neck of the woods we've done quite well without them, - for a looong time. I see no need to reintroduce any lions or wolves into the northeast - none. There are folks today trying to reintroduce wolves into Maine. As usual, these folks tend to live in 4th floor condos in Boston etc. - In all seriousness, I would love to see any wolves "planted" in Maine captured, and secretly trucked into Boston. They'd not only survive, - they'd flourish. Between all the garbage loaded dumpsters and stray cats & dogs, these things would end up weighting about 300 lbs. - A few years ago I was sitting at the counter in a restaurant here, when a couple of characters were expounding on how dumb the Maine folks were for not appreciating the wolves. I kinda excused myself for butting in, - and asked them if it was such a great freakin; idea, - why not put some in your own back-yard before you loose any sleep over putting them in someone elses?. Never got an answer, ... |
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blackfootblood
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 7:57:22 PM
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Yes MG, where there are three youngsters there has to be a momma around the corner somewhere. (I have a cousin in Maryland that had the same pics sent to her as well.)
And I do tend to agree with you, Diane. I just wish it was as simple for man and animal to live together. But the press seems to push and promote fear of natural wildlife sending some folks on witch hunts for these creatures. How did the native americans manage to live along side wolves, cougars, and bears and still flourish? Guess thats my inner hippie coming out |
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Posted - February 18 2010 : 8:48:23 PM
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| It's amazing how many people have a romantic idea of how the Indians actually lived. To assume they had no problems is a tad off. For one thing, they left no written records - couldn't, they weren't able to. In one of the books I read a short while back, on trappers, one episode relates how an Indian on horse back has his wife by the left arm, and is dragging her along-side as he gallops off with a grizzly chasing them. During Lewis & Clark's expedition, there were times Indian children with frost-bite were brought to them - seeking medical help. Now, it would be "nice" to think/hope/believe that this guy and his wife were the only ones that ever had a problem with the local wild-life, - they weren't. ;) |
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Posted - February 19 2010 : 07:08:36 AM
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| I don't know, MG ... Not a tree-hugger, nor do I place Indians in some super-human category, but as a person who has lived in the city, the suburbs, rural America, and in close-to-pristine wilderness, I'm all for predators in the wild. They have their place, help with the natural balance, and, the romantic side of me just loves knowing they are still there as they always have been. Nothing like the sound of a wolf howling. |
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Posted - February 19 2010 : 08:13:09 AM
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There's a place for them, - but NIMBY. Any group that wants to re-introduce wolves etc. can do it in their own backyard not mine. "These types" of folks rarely "enjoy" the benefits of their own actions, - they don't live any where near the area. You want to see a quick change of heart?? - Plant a few wolves in Boston, Cleveland or New York. Heck, call in for just a coyote in your neighborhood today, and you'll get a cruiser and the "animal control officer" shows up too. Plant a few wolves, and they'll probably evacuate the area. ;)
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There's NO shortage of wildlife around here, - and wolves would NOT be welcomed by almost anyone. While they might be planted further north, wolves have absolutely no idea of what zip code they were supposed to stay in. The human population in the northeast, and the population in Utah etc. are two different stories. |
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Posted - February 19 2010 : 9:05:00 PM
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Rich, you have expressed exactly what I was trying to say & did a much better job of saying it - thank you! 
I have also lived in cities & in country settings; and although we've not had an opportunity to go camping in several years, we always prefered doing so in wilderness areas with no amenities, far fewer people & more opportunities to enjoy the quiet beauty of nature.
And we considered ourselves very blessed each time we encountered any wildlife: such as driving along the Blue Ridge Parkway & watching a young bobcat cub scamper up a hillside & back into the woods; seeing a timber rattler crossing the Appalachian trail; watching a herd of deer playing "tag" under the light of the full moon in the meadow where we had pitched our tent; or simply seeing a type of songbird that we wouldn't see "back home."
And owls performing their midnight serenades - oh, how I love that! I would always wake up when I heard them calling & wouldn't go back to sleep until they had finished their haunting tune.
Of course, my profile signature is "Rattlesnake Woman" so it's pretty obvious to most that I'm a lover of the wild things - including some that most folks wouldn't find very likable! |
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 09:20:43 AM
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| MN has a healthy population of timber wolves in the northern part of the state. they stay away from people and are a great natural check to the enormous deer population. |
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 09:37:59 AM
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We have a huge coyote population, - which is damaging the deer population. - Adding wolves wouldn't "enhance" the situation, at least not for the deer. In fact DNA testing has shown the Eastern coyote as having wolf genes - it's larger and takes down bigger prey than the Western coyote. No doubt the difference is due to the Western coyote traveling north into Canada and cross breeding with wolves, while moving over the Great Lakes, and back down into New England.
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State officials on Monday found and killed two wolves thought to be responsible for killing a teacher in Chignik Lake last week, according to the Department of Fish and Game.
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The wolves were found in the Chignik drainage a week after the March 8 death of 32-year-old Candice Berner, a special education teacher killed in an apparent wolf attack while jogging along a remote road, according to Alaska State Troopers. Troopers say they think at least two or three wolves were involved in the attack
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 09:42:56 AM
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You know MG, a quality automatic rifle in 7.62mm or 5.56mm would fix that coyote problem...
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 10:23:34 AM
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| MG--this young lady was the feature story in my Slippery Rock University Alumni magazine last week....I got it and read the story the day before her tragic death. How sad.....she had so much to give and was living her dream. She is, and will be, sorely missed. |
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