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Longrifle
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Monadnock Guide
Council of Elders
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 Posted - June 15 2009 : 07:29:24 AM
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| The average Army draftee in WWII was 5'-9" and about 145 lbs. |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - June 15 2009 : 10:52:43 AM
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And look at the ages. One 40, one 31, one 30. The rest are younger. Now walk down the line at a reenactment and check the ages of the soldiers! Shame it doesn't have the weight, too. Bet they weighed less, but that's just a guess.  |
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Obediah
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Posted - June 15 2009 : 11:37:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure I weighed just a smidgen less when I was younger... |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - June 15 2009 : 1:27:26 PM
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| I found my old draft card from when I registered at the age of 18. I was 5'7" and weighed 155 lbs. I have grown a little in all directions since then! |
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Monadnock Guide
Council of Elders
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Posted - June 15 2009 : 1:40:26 PM
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| There was a draft during the Revolution??? |
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Wilderness Woman
Watcher of the Wood
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Posted - June 15 2009 : 2:47:17 PM
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Hahahahahaha!!!!!  Good one, MG!!
Fitz, your comment does reinforce something I was going to mention, until I looked at the ages of most of the men on that list. Young men often keep growing even into their early 20s, unlike most girls who usually reach their full height earlier. So, I was thinking that if most of those men were in their late teens, that could explain why they were so short. Then, I wondered if most of them were Irish. (No offense IrishGirl!) While there are some Irishmen on the list, they certainly are not all Irish. So...... what's the explaination?
In the re-enacting world, there is an ongoing discussion about the size of people 250 years ago. Some say that people "were a lot smaller back then," and others say that isn't necessarily so. So, what is the answer? All I know is that I have seen some extant clothing from that period, and it sure is small, for both men and women! Except for George Washington's clothing. |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - June 15 2009 : 4:35:13 PM
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| When I graduated from college four years later, I was 5'10" and 195 lbs. So some major growth happened for me during those years. In later years I ran everyday and ate only healthy stuff and lost down to my High School weight. People asked me if I was sick or something. But now when I go to reunions, which for us is once a month, I look at the ones who played football and who I thought were really big guys, and I am bigger than they are. If I had grown a little sooner, I could have played. As it was, I would have been killed! So some people just grow up sooner. At least all the GHS offensive line did! |
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Seamus
Guardian of Heaven's Gate
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Posted - June 16 2009 : 6:09:47 PM
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FYI-----size and weight not included, but origin of birth is:
Muster roll of Major James Burds Company of the Augusta Regt. From the 10th of May 1757 to the 1st of Oct. 1757
Major James Burd
Lt. Daniel Clark
Ensign William Patterson
Age Trade Country
Joseph Faulkner, Sgt 32 pipemaker England
James Baird, Sgt 20 Cooper Ireland
John Rundalls, Drummer 21 carpenter Penna.
Thomas Cooper, Corp. 31 yeoman England
Alexander Blain, Corp 22 yeoman Ireland
John Brandon
John Field 24 Drummer Ireland
Michael Rourk 40 Gardener Ireland
Hugh Griffith 40 yeoman Ireland
William Carrell 31 farmer Ireland
Thomas Row 21 yeoman Ireland
John Ellis 16 yeoman Penna.
William McDonald
John Barclay 23 labourer Ireland
James Clark 36 labourer Ireland
William McKinley 21 taylor Ireland
John Coon 36 Baker Germany
Mark Butler 28 wig maker Ireland
Thomas Garrish 36 Black smith Jersey
Michael Redman 25 yeoman Ireland
Thomas Owen 22 carpenter
George Kelly
Richard Glover 20 watch gilder London
Neal McConneloge 26 weaver Ireland
Andrew Ring 36 farmer Germany
John Andrew Scredlin 26 doctor Germany
George Loserman 36 farmer Germany
Robert Galbreath 16 smith Penna.
Richard Warden 23 butcher England
James Cogley 30 smith England
Joseph Kelly
George Spiedle 24 Weaver Germany
Wm. McCafferty 48 labourer Ireland
James Hogkins 32 Penna.
John Clarke 29 sadler New Eng.
Henry Garringer 25 Weaver Germany
Conrad Karr 30 labourer Germany
John Brown 26 mason Germany
George Hoover 22 labourer Germany
Matthew McCosky 21 Labourer Ireland
John Gunglee 21 Farmer Penna.
Richard Kennedy 26 seaman England
James Carr 34 Labourer Ireland
Wm. Huston 28 Labourer Ireland
Christian Romick 25 Labourer High Ger.
John Campbell 19 Labourer Scotland
Jacob Stroud 33 cooper Penna.
George Carsan 24 labourer Ireland
John Scarlet 19 labourer Ireland
George Welsby 22 farmer New Eng
John Greer 19 Taylor Penna.
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Seamus
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Kay
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 Posted - June 19 2009 : 10:27:53 AM
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Originally posted by Wilderness Woman
In the re-enacting world, there is an ongoing discussion about the size of people 250 years ago. Some say that people "were a lot smaller back then," and others say that isn't necessarily so. So, what is the answer? All I know is that I have seen some extant clothing from that period, and it sure is small, for both men and women! Except for George Washington's clothing.
I think that there were a wide range of shapes and sizes 150-250 years ago just like there are today. I have seen original photographs of both men and women who are short, tall(women too), petite, and what we'd call over weight/obese. I have a collection big enough to dispel an opinion leaning in any one direction! It is also important to keep in mind that some original clothing that survives has done so because it was for a special occasion (worn one or two times before being packed away as an heirloom), simply probably wasn't worn much at all for reasons unknown, or perhaps was made and then all of a sudden that woman got married, had children, and or just wasn't that size anymore, got fed up and shoved it in the back of the clothes drawers! We all know about not being the same size and hanging onto clothes despite the fact that they just don't fit anymore! One of the classes I sat in on when I attended the Midwest Civil War Civilian Conference was on this topic-size of people 150 yrs ago. General Grant was under six feet. Varina Davis was very close to or was six feet. Lastly, take the crew of the confederate sub the Hunley. Most of us would assume they were small. Nope. They were all over six feet tall.
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