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Posted - August 02 2008 :  3:53:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For those of you who may be worried, as I am, about the future of this great Country should Senator Obama win this upcoming Presidential election, here's a book you should read carefully before you enter the voting booth:

THE OBAMA NATION Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality

Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obamas personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obamas career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obamas extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-fathers Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrnassociations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelles 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obamas continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obamas involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obamas initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelles dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaigns cult of personality, including the derivation of the words hope and change
-Obamas far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obamas nave, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeatednot by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.

About the Author
DR. JEROME CORSI received a Ph.D. from Harvard University in political science in 1972 and has written many books and articles, including the No. 1 New York Times best-seller, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. His latest best-seller was The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada. He is a senior staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.com and the author of two books on contemporary Iran: Atomic Iran and Showdown with Nuclear Iran. In his 2005 book Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil, which he co-authored with Craig. R. Smith, Dr. Corsi predicted oil prices at over $100 a barrel.


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He's one VERY scary individual.

you can keep "The Change"
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I am with you both. This guy is very, very scary, and I am very, very worried.......

"It is more deeply stirring to my blood than any imaginings could possibly have been."
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I'm worried, too. Does anyone think it odd that all of our enemies seem to support this guy?

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Dear friends and fellow patriots,

Chill. Calm down. Let's think this through.

If Obama were as he is apparently described in this book, I'd be scared too. But the book is just out, and already inaccuracies are being found:

http://www.mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/jerome_corsi

As for Dr. Jerome Corsi himself, well, if the quotations at this website are accurate, he's not a very nice man:

http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

And it comes as no surprise to learn that he didn't serve in Vietnam, despite his willingness to trash one who did. Nope, according to Wikipedia, Dr. Corsi was found unfit for service because of . . . eczema.

As for the facts about Obama, or anything else about which rumors swirl, Snopes.com is always a good place to start (I know others here have cited it on different topics):

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

And here's a transcript of an interview that Obama did concerning his relationship with Rezko:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-obamafullwebmar16,0,6642341.story

If you will, allow me to mention a few things from my own knowledge (I'll dig up cites if you wish):

Obama is not a Muslim, and was not raised as one. His paternal grandparents were Muslim, but his father, as a grown man, was an atheist or agnostic. In any event, Barack Sr. left when Barack Jr. was two, and the child had no further contact with the father except for a brief visit some years later.

Obama's stepfather was a Muslim, but by no means was he of the radical sort (in fact, if I remember correctly, he wasn't all that observant). Islam as practiced in Indonesia is much more tolerant than as practiced in, for example, Saudi Arabia.

During the recent unrest arising from the elections in Kenya, Obama recorded a message to be broadcast there urging calm and an end to violence. He did so at the request of Condi Rice.

Some of our enemies may have "endorsed" Obama (Castro and Hamas are the ones I'm aware of), but if his recent European trip is any evidence, our friends have, too. And not because he went easy on them -- in his Berlin speech, he urged Germany to contribute more troops to the fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan. BTW, if anyone objects to Obama describing himself in that speech as "a citizen of the United States and a citizen of the world," be advised that very similar words were spoken by Ronald Reagan.

Obama is not a pacifist. He has said that he is not opposed to all wars, but to dumb wars. A war to which he's not opposed, as noted above, is that being conducted by the U.S. and its NATO allies against the Taliban. In fact, he wants more troops for Afghanistan, and has vowed to send American forces into Pakistan after bin Laden if there is credible information that he could be captured there. And there's speculation that Obama would ask Robert Gates, Bush's choice for secretary of defense, to stay on in that position.

Finally, please consider this: You may be convinced that the many thousands of people who have voted for, and/or donated to, Obama are credulous fools who have fallen under his charismatic spell and fail to see the danger that lurks behind the curtain.

You may even believe that I am such a person. I won't attempt to counter that belief by pointing to evidence of my intellectual abilities, because then I'd be labeled an elitist and, as such, disregarded. So, allow me to say that although I am a liberal Democrat, I diverge in numerous respects from the stereotype: I love country music, especially Toby Keith. I don't like brie; it's far inferior to good Vermont cheddar. I may have unknowingly eaten arugula in a salad, but wouldn't recognize it if I fell over it. I do not buy lattes or other fancy adulterations of coffee; I'm not a wine snob, single malt snob, or any other sort of beverage snob, but I am particular -- my beverage of choice is Folger's Breakfast Blend. I support the right of an individual to keep and bear arms, as does the U.S. Supreme Court and any Democratic candidate worth his or her salt who doesn't want to lose West Virginia again. I support hunting, and I eat meat (but wish meat animals were treated far more humanely than probably they are), and I envy WW her possession of a beautiful flintlock pistol.

Have I persuaded you? Didn't think so. OK, you can believe that I and many thousands of others have fallen under the spell of an evil genius who will endanger the republic, but IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT'S HOLY you can't possibly believe that Senator Jim Webb of Virginia -- Annapolis graduate, first in his Marine officer training class, winner of the Navy Cross for heroic action in Vietnam, former Republican and Secretary of the Navy under Reagan, author of the acclaimed Vietnam novel "Fields of Fire," descendant of a long line of fighting Scots-Irishmen and father of a Marine who has served in Iraq, and prime sponsor of the recently passed GI bill that grants increased educational benefits to veterans of recent conflicts -- can be such a fool! I reason thusly: Jim Webb is smart enough to perceive any hidden threat behind the charisma, and he supports Obama; Jim Webb would rather die than endanger the security of this country; ergo, Obama will not endanger the security of this country.

So, I'll sum up by saying that Obama is a Democrat, no more, no less, a little left of center to some, not left enough to others. Most of you don't like Democrats, I'm guessing, and don't plan to vote for one, but the country has survived Democrats before and will survive Obama if he's elected, as I believe he will be. And while photos only reveal so much, one look at photos of Barack and Michelle and the girls persuades me that the personal weakness (shall we say) which cast such a large shadow over the Clinton adminstration will not tarnish an Obama presidency.

Bookworm

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"Nothing to it, brother." -- Barack Obama
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Well said, Bookworm. I will simply add that whoever we get surely* can't be as bad as what we have now.

*crosses fingers
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Bookworm- thank you. You said it well.
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It's not his ancestry or middle name or any of that stuff that bother me, - it's his politics!!!

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Well, we surely have discovered how to get our Miss Bookworm out of her books and back onto the boards! Wow!

Mary, my friend, you are an eloquent writer and you present your arguments very intelligently. While I (most respectfully!) don't agree with your political views, I greatly enjoyed reading your words. Does that make any sense?

I am not a good debater, as I have said several times over the years, so I won't even try here. And I am certainly not the eloquent writer that you are. But, just let me say something in my own defense to everyone. Yes, I am registered as a Republican. However, I have never let that dictate for whom I vote. I have crossed party lines many times. I am now very ashamed to say that I voted for Clinton! Yes! He charmed me. And I won't let that happen again.

I am not a terribly political person, and without Gary (who watched the Talking Heads on TV by the hour) to help educate me, I often miss things that are going on in the Political Arena. But, I do see, read and hear enough to enable me to make a good, educated judgment.

As MG said, it's not his name, or his race, or his color, or the fact that he forgot to place his hand on his heart during the National anthem, or any of the other "sensational" arguments that are brought up against him... it is his politics and ideas. Some of those, I just cannot go along with.

Now then. Still friends, Mary? If you come to the Market Fair at Washingtonburg (AHEC) in September, I'll let you hold my pistol! [WW says cajolingly.]

"It is more deeply stirring to my blood than any imaginings could possibly have been."
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Those are some thoughtful and insightful comments, Mary! And beautifully expressed! Thanks for adding some balance. Looks like there IS a bit of political diversity here in LOTM territory!

(Still luv ya, Rich! )

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With Rich on this one even though I do not have a vote but the hubby sure doesand he is of the same mindset.

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I think IF Obama does manage to pull it off - there will be a large increase in "successionist movements" in a number of states. Especially western states like Utah, Wyoming etc. - but a number of others also. None will succeed, but it will "send a message" ...

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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1830119,00.html

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Did you mean "secessionist"?
Do you mean like Vermont considered doing to "send a message" about the current administration?
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Vote for macain, and i hope all your children/grandchildren make it back from Iran alive.
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Yes Stephanie, - that's exactly what I meant, good catch. Halfbreed, Obama wants to send more troops into Afghanistan and "maybe" Pakistan. Our troops are going to be in the middle east for a long time, - no matter who wins. McCain is simply more open about it.

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Stephanie, Susquesus, and Jayne, thanks for the kind words.

Joyce, we will ALWAYS be friends! When I was writing my post, I was concerned about keeping it respectful, reasonable, etc., and so I tried to keep in mind how you would do it. I don't always vote a straight party ticket, either. I voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 because I thought he'd done a decent job in difficult circumstances. And our representative in the Pa. House is a Republican who is a former nurse, and very knowledgeable and concerned about health care issues; I always vote for her. There were probably others I can't recall at the moment. Regarding your kind offer about the flintlock pistol, I WILL come to Washingtonburg in September and take you up on it!

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Mary, you are a true Sweetheart! However, I really do question your sanity in using me as a roll model! I don't think my track record has been too great lately.

Anyway... Seamus and I will look forward to seeing you at AHEC. You know where to find us... in Col. Bouquet's Way Station!

[WW hurries off to pen a reminder to herself to pack her pistol for her journey to Carlisle.}

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KUDOS to Bookworm on an extremely well thought-out and intelligent post! How I wish that more on the blogosphere and internet in general were as well thought out and written!

I will be voting for McCain this fall simply because I think he is better qualified to lead this country and to be Commander in Chief. I'm not a Republican -- I'm an independent who tends to be liberal on social issues and conservative when it comes to fiscal matters. I also believe in a strong military and tough law enforcement. I won't be voting for Obama 1) because I don't think he's qualified, 2) His hyper-elitist attitudes about some things annoy me mightily and 3) he talks out of both sides of his mouth worse than many of the double-speakers we already have in Washington.

That said, my main opinion on this election is the same as Stephanie's. Whoever we get will still be better than what we've had for the past eight years.

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After seeing her video I think I am going to vote for Paris Hilton. She is better qualified than either of the other two, and more intelligent.


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quote:
Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams

After seeing her video I think I am going to vote for Paris Hilton. She is better qualified than either of the other two, and more intelligent.




LOL!! Plus she's eye candy for the gentlemen!!

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After seeing her video I think I am going to vote for Paris Hilton. She is better qualified than either of the other two, and more intelligent.

Sorry Fitz, she's only 27. She will be eligible to run for Prez in the 2016 campaign, though!
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Dang!!! Looks like we will have to put up with unqualified dummies until then. But what else is new!


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Indeed, quite a variety of politics here on the Mohican Board! Certainly, a good thing!

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First off, and this should come as no suprise to anyone who knows me, I will be 'holding my nose' and voting for Sen. McCain. IMHO Sen. McCain is no conservative, but he is the lesser of two evils in this race.

As for Sen. Obama, some of his supporters reminds me of the MTV "boxers or briefs?" crowd that helped put Pres. Clinton into office in 1992 (The male one, not his wife...) That being, they have very little idea of what his policies/beliefs are, but "Golly, he is just so likable." Personally, his relationship with Rev. Wright's church, his voting record in the Illionois/U.S. legistaures, as well as various non-verbal clues (The military hospital incident in Germany, during his recent 'Eurpean Election Campaign Tour', as one example) told me all that I need to know about him.

In addition, let me say that I do not like Sen. McCain as a person (Having met him face-to-face during the 2000 Presidential Campaign), but I do trust him to lead the nation. Sen. Obama does seem a very likable person (I've never met the man, but it is just a feeling that he is a nice guy, outside of his political views), and even some of his ideas may seem somewhat palatable, but it is the crowd of supporters who will follow him into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that make me convinced that he is not the man for the job.

As a final note, I do believe that Sen. Obama may win in November, and even though that is not the best outcome for the nation, it will not destroy it, for there are far too many of us who will work to protect this country, and the beliefs it was founded on, regardless of the mindless pablum that will sprew forth from a 'Obama-Reid-Peloisi Triumpherate'. On the contrary, as a student of history I remember that it took the presidencies of Carter and Clinton to give us Reagan and G.W. Bush, as well as the 'Republican Revolution of 1994', and I can wait for the next one as well...


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