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Kirachi
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 Posted - November 07 2007 : 09:18:48 AM
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I was given this book recently by my friend in America (you can't buy the book easily here in England)
I had known of it due to movie of the same name starring Eric 
So because of that I thought the book would be quite twee and soft...I wasn't actually expecting to like it much at all, although I enjoy the movie it's only an hour and a half long while a book can last for days/weeks etc, so I thought I would get bored of it very easily.
I'm only on chapter 3 and already enjoying it, very surprised at how violent and un twee it is lol
Has anyone else read it? If so did it stay like this all the way through?
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Irishgirl
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 11:55:36 AM
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There is a thread titled "Favorite Eric Schweig Movie" or something like that, just do a search and all his movies including "Follow the River" are discussed (Page 3) but here is the link to the true story of Mary Ingles http://www.floydcountyinview.com/marydraperingles.html
I loved the movie but never read the actual book. |
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 12:17:45 PM
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That book is excellent! So are all of Thom's books, including The Red Heart, which I mentioned in another thread. The movie pales in comparison.
She was an amazing woman.
Btw... what is "twee"? |
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Irishgirl
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 12:25:20 PM
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| Yeah, I was wondering the same thing Kirachi, what does that mean? |
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Light of the Moon
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 3:30:07 PM
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If my friends from England told me correctly twee is another way of saying overly sappy to the point of being corny or even humdrum . They've been in the states since they were children and have only visited England. But I've heard them use the word before and had to ask. |
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Irishgirl
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 6:49:26 PM
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| Thanks Light. I'm from Ireland and even I had never heard of that one. |
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Kyfrontiersman
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 7:14:53 PM
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Kirachi wrote, "very surprised at how violent and un twee it is lol"
Think that's violent? Mary Ingels never had her children killed in front of her like Jenny Wiley did. Thom has fictionalized a true story, but he did it well. Wiley endured the slaying of her brother, her children, and she escaped after 11 months of captivity. She gave birth on the trail and had to watch her baby's brains dashed against a tree, and this was after her other children had been killed in front of her. And if you really like 'gory' check out what the Shawnee did to Greathouse and 15 other people. Of course this was in retaliation for the terrible torture Greathouse inflicted on Chief Logan's family. Times got hard on all in the Middle Ground for awhile, from about 1776 - 1782. Didn't mean to mention gory details, but it was a very hard life on our ancestors. Mary Ingels had it easy compared to many others.
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Posted - November 07 2007 : 9:59:40 PM
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| OMG that poor woman Jenny Wiley. How anyone could stay "sane" after witnessing the murder of their children like she did is beyond me. Is there a book about this poor woman and all she went through? Not sure I could stomach it though. Very gory indeed. I guess Mary did have it much easier. |
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Kyfrontiersman
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Posted - November 08 2007 : 10:04:52 AM
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I've not read these, but here's what I found on abebooks.com:
1. Dark Hills to Westward: The Saga of Jenny Wiley
Caudill, Harry M. (Author)
2. The legend of Jenny Wiley
Arville Wheeler
3. Jenny Wiley Country a History of the Big Sandy Valley in Kentucky's Eastern Highlands and Genealogy of the Regions People
Hall, C. Mitchel
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Kirachi
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Posted - November 08 2007 : 12:09:50 PM
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Twee means, hmm it's hard to put into words....
I guess it means very quaint or overly nice...like a church fair would be twee lol
Kyfrontiersman I meant the book was violent compared to the movie, not compared to others experinces and i was surprised because i was expecting the book to be very much like the movie...very overly nice (aka twee) haha
And wasn't Mary's sister in law's baby killed right in front of her?
I've heard of Jenny Wiley's story before awful stuff but from what I've read, something that was done a lot, especially babies if they were taking people captive, crying babies are too noisy after all.
Awful things to think about in this day and age... |
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Posted - November 08 2007 : 1:44:54 PM
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I read the book many years ago and loved it. It's so much better than the movie. Also, WW mentioned The Red Heart which I also read after reading Follow the River and liked it a lot as well.
Because it was so long ago when I read it, I don't remember much about the violence, but I do remember that a good portion of the book was about her getting back to her husband (hope I didn't spoil anything for you) and the ending is different than the movie. Well a lot of stuff is different than the movie.
Hope you keep enjoying it! |
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Kyfrontiersman
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Posted - November 09 2007 : 11:29:46 AM
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Kirachi,
Forgive me M'Lady, I meant no disrespect in any manner. I do hope Ye
can forgive the backwoods ways of this old frontiersman, who should
strive harder to get back to civilization more, in order to try an
become a gentleman, perhaps fur the 1st time in my life. But alas
perhaps I have become more like the Injuns than I'd like to imagine.
Yes, the Injuns done many terrible things, but so did the whites to
them. Some say that the French got the Injuns to scalpin', but I do
not think that so.
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Posted - November 10 2007 : 11:18:59 AM
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| Thanks Mike for posting the books about Jenny Wiley. I think that might be an interesting read. I also might pick up "Follow the River" too, I just seen the movie for the first time last week. Sparked my interest so to speak. Now if I could just find the time..... |
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Posted - November 10 2007 : 5:08:14 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kirachi
Twee means, hmm it's hard to put into words....
I guess it means very quaint or overly nice...like a church fair would be twee...
This is my new favorite word. Twee! It's just so fun to say.  |
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Posted - November 14 2007 : 6:18:54 PM
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Twee -- sort of a combination of 2 and 3. -or- the sound of a ricochet "tweeeeee."  |
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Posted - November 15 2007 : 9:23:48 PM
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| That or Elmer Fudd talking about what else but a "twee" |
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Posted - November 15 2007 : 10:05:28 PM
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Kyfrontiersman
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Posted - December 06 2007 : 5:53:08 PM
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By the way, the original context of this thread was concerning Indian Captives, Mary Ingles and Jenny Wiley, so I thought this would be appreciated by many of you. Not sure if these ladies are listed here, but there is some excellant reading and research here for Indian Captives from the 17th through the 19th centuries. Hope you all enjoy this.
http://www.digitalbookindex.com/_search/search010histusindiancapitivitiesa.asp
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Kyfrontiersman
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Posted - December 06 2007 : 7:01:57 PM
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Also if you don't mind, please advise me if you all like
research areas like this, or not. Thanks
Mike |
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Posted - December 07 2007 : 01:39:28 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kirachi
Twee means, hmm it's hard to put into words....
I guess it means very quaint or overly nice...like a church fair would be twee lol
Okay. So my english friends told me wrong . That or maybe they misunderstood the word or how to explain it . Oh well ! |
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