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CT•Ranger
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 Posted - October 15 2002 : 8:49:25 PM
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Poll Question:
Which battle do you all find most interesting to study or read about?
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Edmund McKinnon
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 Posted - October 15 2002 : 11:33:16 PM
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I like Braddock's Defeat best.It is close to where I live in Pittsburgh,Pa. Unfortunatly,most of the battlefield was covered over by the J.Edgar Thompson SteelWorks in 1855.The Pennsylvania R.R. found a mass grave of all of the British soldiers who were lost and moved it to an unknown location.This was probably the biggest event in the colonies in 1755.It was a virtual who's who of the American Revolution.There were personalities such as:George Washington,Thomas Gage,Horatio Gates,Daniel Morgan and Daniel Boone present.There is talk of building a visitor's center there for the 250th now that the mill is defunct.There is also a good documentary on the subject titled:"When the Forest Ran Red:Washington,Braddock and a Doomed Army".Check it out at:www.paladincom.com
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - October 16 2002 : 12:18:26 AM
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There was also the siege of Fort Loudoun. There is a new book about it called "Indian Summer" by Joe D. Guy. The fort might have been in Tennessee, but it was a South Carolina fort. It's a piece of history we were never taught in the SC schools.
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 17 2002 : 2:11:42 PM
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Although I voted for Braddock's Defeat 1755, I think that you should have included the Forbes Campaign of 1758. The reason for this is as follows, it starts with a disasterous defeat for Major Grant on 14 September 1758, climaxes with a French counter-attack on 12 October (continuing until the afternoon of the 13th) at the post at Loyalhanna (Ft. Ligonier, for the uninitiated) and finishes with General Forbes arriving at the smouldering ruins of Ft. Duquesne on 25 November. You can read an excellent account of it in Volume #2 of "The Papers of Henry Boquet", or "Ft. Ligonier And It's Times" by C. Hale Sipe. It will also be out in video this spring as the sequel to "When The Forest Ran Red", an excellent production staring many tri-state area living historians like Seamus, McKinnon, MacWilliam and myself (among many other notables).
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 9:48:08 PM
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Originally posted by CT•Ranger:
Which battle do you all find most interesting to study or read about?
I am definitely in favour of the 1758 Battle of Ticonderoga. It was such a stunning defeat by the British army at the hands of a few Frenchmen. Aside from strong defensive tactics, Montcalm was blessed by the ineptitude of the British command, by the untimely death of the popular Lord Howe, and by the position of the Fort itself on its point. I was fortunate enough (along with Seamus and Malcolm) to be one of the people recreating that battle last year on the actual place Lord Howe was killed.
http://reenacting.net/howe-ti-01.html
Good question -- lots of great battles to choose from.
YHOS,
Pvt. Chauncey Goodrich
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 02:15:43 AM
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I agree, it was hard to choose only one. The one that I did choose, was for no other reason than the fact that I live over the hill from where it happened. This gives it a 'local' interest to me.
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Ranger of the North Woods
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Posted - January 30 2003 : 11:27:11 PM
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I opted for the Siege of Louisburg, because it's right here in good 'ol Nova Scotia. More than that, one of the men, Captain Sylvanus Cobb, who was present at the battle, had stopped in a small harbor on his way to Halifax. He liked the small harbor, and so, when Wolfe went on to Quebec, he went back to New England, and brought back with him to NS quite a collection of familes, including his own, and settled the town of Liverpool, around the same time Wolfe was knocking at Quebec's door. One of the settlers trickling into Liverpool over the next few years was a fellow named Joseph Verge, and now, 240 years later, we're still here in the little town ;)
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Nova Scotia; several inches of topsoil and scraggly forest covering several billion tons of rock. |
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YoungNative
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Posted - July 24 2003 : 04:32:00 AM
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1755 Braddocks defeat, maybe? Possibly becuase i live so close to it. Other then that no real reason, just the most appealing to me.
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Posted - July 28 2003 : 06:30:58 AM
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Hey Young Native,
Did you choose Braddock's, because you are on the winning side of that battle? Just kidding, Mark. See you at Bushy this weekend, and I have some things that belong to you and your dad to give to you.
Your Most Humble Highland 'Uncle',
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Posted - July 29 2003 : 01:14:50 AM
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lol, Ed, yes i might have chosen that battle for that very reason :-) Yeah, i can't wait for bushy, should be a great event, i'll make sure to make a few trips down to your camp to see you and the rest of the 42nd. Just don't shoot at me in the battle ;-) ah well, I'll see you this weekend.
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Posted - July 29 2003 : 08:03:54 AM
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It is not on the list, but I would probably vote for Bushy Run although it is "Pontiac's Rebellion" instead of F and I. I would probably pick BR because it was my first pre-Rev. War event doing Montgomery's Highlanders and the magic is still there. Aye, see you all on Friday at Bushy Run.
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SgtMunro
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Posted - July 29 2003 : 11:04:44 PM
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Hey Sarge, I agree, Bushy is a good choice. Even though it is not part of the actual F&IW / SYW, it still dovetails to and traces its root causes to the late war with France. See you friday...
P.S.- Let Major Croy know that I got him one of our SWAT patches.
Your Humble Servant,
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Posted - July 30 2003 : 07:37:52 AM
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| Sgt. Munro...."Captain" Croy will probably be at BR before I get there and I am sure he will be thankful for the patch. The Captain requested to resume his former rank so he could not (as a major) be pulled away from his Grand Grenadiers and assigned to a Battalion, etc. I should arrive at BR around 1400. Slante' .....Sjt. MacWm. |
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Posted - July 31 2003 : 01:55:02 AM
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Outstanding, Sgt. MacWilliam, I should be 'wheels down' myself at approximately 1700 Hrs.
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Serjeant-Major Duncan Munro
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Posted - June 10 2005 : 04:38:24 AM
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| Greetings all, I voted for the Siege of Quebec as thats the general area I was born in. And see if th Akwesasne participated. |
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Posted - December 22 2006 : 09:46:55 AM
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| I have to choose Ft. William Henry 1757, as this is my play ground Lake George |
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Posted - February 19 2007 : 1:53:52 PM
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| I have to go with Braddock's Defeat since it acts as somewhat of a redemptive event for young George Washington after his skirmish in 1754 where Half King killed Jumonville (sp) and his surrender of Ft. Necessity. |
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 10:47:59 AM
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Next year, 2008, will be the big year for Louisbourg. They had an event in 1995, and again in 1999. The one in 1999 was considered by all to have been a great event. Last summer they again hosted an event, but by design it was much smaller. Sort of gearing up for the big one. In the summer of 2008 they will host the 250th anniversary of the seige, and I think this is the one everyone is waiting on. The location and the site are the best restored historic town in America, including Williamsburg. The disadvantage is the location. And the somewhat limited tourist season. But if you don't do anything else in 2008, go to Louisbourg.
http://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/parks/fort_e.html
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 10:59:14 AM
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Also notice the flag on the right. It is the French Marine (troupes de la colonie) flag. You will see it used by various reenacting units, BUT this, Louisbourg, is the only place where is can be flown correctly. Flags were issued to regiments, and since the Marines were independent companies, they did not have flags. But the troupes at Louisbourg were organized into a larger unit in preparation for the siege and were awarded this flag by the King.
To see a very good reproduction of this flag, watch The Patriot. In the scene just before the last battle, when the Frenchman walks out of his tent, the flag is flying in front of it. Correct? No!!! But in The Patriot it's just one small drop in a very large bucket. |
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 11:08:57 AM
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That Louisbourg site is lovely, Fitz. I guess I never realized that some of these forts were like miniature towns. Silly of me, I know.  The images on the site are great, unlike a lot of other websites, which don't really give you an idea of what the interior of these forts looked like. |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 11:16:05 AM
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| I have a CD produced by the site which gives a really great picture of what the town is really like. And it's history. The only problem is, the CD was made in 1995 using the technology available at that time, and now it is somewhat outdated. It doesn't really want to play well on today's operating systems. Maybe after the 2008 event, or even before it, they will produce a new one using state of the art software. |
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 5:00:30 PM
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| That's a very good link Fitz. |
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 8:01:11 PM
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Also notice that the French Marine uniforms are the 1750 and earlier style. The reason for that is the in-house unit portrays the year 1744 at all times. But then maybe they are doing the first siege and not the second. Could be.
But then I guess not. In the background there are some highlander Grens, but they seem to be wearing bearskin hats, so what's up with that? So it they had any regulars at all, it couldn't have been the first siege, it would have to have been the second. So I was right all along. |
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Posted - February 20 2007 : 8:35:43 PM
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| Ceratinly can't argue the point Fitz, - besides was there any real question about you being right all along? Have to say though, wearing a bearskin hat "up there" sounds like a good idea, regardless of which seige we're talking about. |
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Hey Fitz, since I don't "par-lay-voo Fran-say," I had to run your signature through BabelFish & it translated it as "Two feet against the wall and the head under the tap." Did I miss something here?  |
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