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richfed
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Poll Question:
The idea of allowing "anonymous" posting came about from a desire to encourage folks who have privacy issues to post here on the Mohican Board. It was never intended as a "safe haven" from which to launch hit & run attacks
With those 2 points in mind, should we continue to allow Anonymous Posting?
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 05 2006 : 8:55:04 PM
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| In light of what has just happened.... my vote is to require everyone to register in order to post. They don't have to give any personal information that is viewable to other board members, so they can keep their anonymity, yet you (Rich) have a little more control. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - September 05 2006 : 9:40:37 PM
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| Think I missed something, - but if it was that bad, then anyone can register, why not only have registered posters? |
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Kaylynn44
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Posted - September 05 2006 : 10:14:27 PM
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Rich,
My vote is NO because like WW said, you can still be registered and you don't have to give out a whole lot of information for those who want a bit of privacy. I think that the anonymous posting can sometimes get out of hand. There is nothing wrong if you don't want to register and you just want to read the posts. Alot of people will read posts and never post. That is fine, but if there is something that you want to say, I think that you should be registered.
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Irishgirl
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Posted - September 05 2006 : 11:08:07 PM
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| Well my vote was a Yes to allow anonymous posting. Some people I guess just don't want to register or don't wish to take the time to as perhaps they don't visit the board that often to warrant registering. Don't let a few crazy anonymous posters change the format of the board. It has always been the case to allow Lurking Hurons to post so let the tradition continue. |
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Kaylynn44
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Posted - September 05 2006 : 11:18:37 PM
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IG,
It just seems that whenever there is a flare-up,it is usually because of annonymous posting. That isn't always the case but it's like you can be anonymous and say whatever you want to, and if it is mean and hurtful, then they don't care because they don't have to be accountable for what they say. I'm not usually one for changing things, but I guess sometimes change can be good, and I think that this change would be very good, but in the end, it is up to our wise Sachem to make that choice. 
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Obediah
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 01:11:14 AM
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I voted no. My logic has always been that if you're too lazy to register, you don't deserve to post. I mean, really, registering isn't exactly rocket science! |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 06:56:53 AM
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Originally posted by Monadnock Guide
Think I missed something
MG, if you are really interested, you can go to the thread titled "Eric's Website" and start reading. You can't post in that thread any more, however, as it has been locked down.
Irish Girl, just to set the record straight... total anonymous posting has not always been allowed. When I first came on board nearly four years ago, it was only allowed in one (I think) forum, and I believe it was the one that had to do only with the movie itself. It has been only fairly recently that Rich made the change to allow anonymous posting by lurking hurons in most, if not all, forums. There may have even been a time on an earlier version when there were no lurking hurons, but I don't know that for certain. |
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Stephanie
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 07:17:08 AM
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| I voted no. It's not that difficult to register, and I don't know of any message board that allows anonymous posting for the very reasons we have seen here. If you want to play, you gotta play by the rules, it's that simple. |
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Kaya
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 08:05:54 AM
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I voted to allow anonymous posting - I always thought everyone here were grown ups and could agree to disagree. They are just words on a page after all....I've never been a big fan of censorship, always thought it bred ignorance.
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Irishgirl
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 09:16:21 AM
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Originally posted by Wilderness Woman
Irish Girl, just to set the record straight... total anonymous posting has not always been allowed.
Geeze WW you sure do like to nit pick. What I guess I should have said was Lurking Hurons have always been allowed to post since I joined the board so let it continue. You did however, say that they had been posting anonymously even when you joined 4 years ago, even if it was just in one forum. I agree with Kaya in that we are all supposed to be grown-ups and agree to disagree. It seems that if some don't like a topic of a post and the discussions therein then it becomes controversial. What one person perceives as rude may not be rude to someone else.
Well the topic is locked so now so I guess none of us better mention Eric's web site again or "there will be trouble". |
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Irishgirl
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 09:43:38 AM
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| Someone from another site has been saying naughty things about some of us on this site. Just thought I would mention that. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 10:15:03 AM
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Originally posted by Irishgirl
Geeze WW you sure do like to nit pick.
It's in my job description. 
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...we are all supposed to be grown-ups and agree to disagree.
Oh, I couldn't "agree" more! Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen that way.
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It seems that if some don't like a topic of a post and the discussions therein then it becomes controversial.
The controversial part arrived only when the bashing began.
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What one person perceives as rude may not be rude to someone else.
Very true. However, board moderators are chosen for the purpose of helping to control rudeness (among other things). Therefore, they are given permission by the board owner -- Rich -- to use their discretion in this regard. And that's what I did.
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Well the topic is locked so now so I guess none of us better mention Eric's web site again or "there will be trouble".
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 10:17:28 AM
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Originally posted by Irishgirl
Someone from another site has been saying naughty things about some of us on this site. Just thought I would mention that.
That's unfortunate. However, we cannot control what is said on other boards. Best let it be and prove them wrong by example. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 12:02:56 PM
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Enough! This is the end of it... right here and now! |
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Lurking Huron6303
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 1:07:30 PM
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Well, might I suggest a deep breath for everyone so we can regroup? 
I think that there have been some valid points made, though I do think that this being a written forum, that it is respectful to choose what words you write carefully. It's different having a discussion/disagreement in person when you can observe facial expressions or body language-hence the misunderstanding that can take place.  I know I'm not stating anything new, but I just wanted to say something because this community is dear to me and I would like to think that we would be able to have "anonymous" postings. It's unfortunate that it has been used in a negative manner. (Heck, I have been guilty of a few "anonymous" postings primarily because I get in a hurry and just post.) 
After this little episode, I think that we should discontinue it. If anything, it could only help WW and the other board moderators, and I must say that IMO, they have been doing an excellent job . As for our Sachem, Carter, Liason and the other web owners, I give them my deepest respects. It's not easy. I oversee a few websites myself, but decided long ago to stay away from having message boards primarily because of the headaches that can ensue.
It takes a special group to keep a successful place going... a place to connect with your friends and share some stories.  On that note, I shall bid adieu and will be happy whatever the decision!  |
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 1:09:51 PM
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Batawana
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 1:55:15 PM
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Well..I voted no also. I feel like there are plenty of other places people can go to voice negative comments. This is a special group that has been created out of mutual love and respect for certain things...and if they are not a part of that then they have no right to participate or comment.
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Irishgirl
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 3:56:05 PM
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Originally posted by Wilderness Woman
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Enough! This is the end of it... right here and now!
Ouch That's how I talk to my kids WW not fellow grown-ups  I don't see why you deleted my last post. Don't agree with it so delete it. Well no point in posting anymore 
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Kaya
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 4:26:47 PM
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OuchThat's how I talk to my kids WW not fellow grown-ups I don't see why you deleted my last post. Don't agree with it so delete it. Well no point in posting anymore
Goodbye
Hey IG - it was my post that was deleted not yours and I'm cool with it. Some boards have different rules for different posters and that's OK too. I lurk more than I post here so I guess a lot of people don't know me too well yet.  |
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Lotte
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 4:48:54 PM
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My vote was for 'yes'. Reason? I thought that anonymous posting was a good idea as it allows people who are just passing to have their say without troubling to register. I've read other people's replies, and I've been persuaded that it isn't such a good idea. I'm a relatively new member and probably a bit naive too; I voted yes because I thought that it would be nice to think that the anonymous posting can continue because you can trust the 'lurkers' not to hide behind a hidden identity and slag people off - I know this isn't the way the world works. I'm happy with whatever decision is made, just thought I'd justify my vote.
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richfed
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 6:30:00 PM
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Let me set the record straight on this thing:
Regarding Anonymous Posting: It was allowed throughout the entire board in our old days, 1997-May, 2002. That was not a choice, it was simply the way the old WWWboard was designed. You could type in any name as the poster. It caused way too many problems, as those of you who were there well remember. On May of 2002, we switched over to Snitz. For awhile, there was no anonymous posting. Then, I decided to open it up on 2 forums only ... this one [The New Deal] and the Last of the Mohicans forum. I thought this one a good choice because someone could test it out before registering; the LOTM one a good choice so that someone who was just passing through & wanted to comment on the movie could do so without the "trouble" of registering. If a person wanted to get more involved in the community here, they could then register and post everywhere. That is how it has been ever since.
Regarding Free Speech & Censorship: It always cracks me up when people bring that up. Think hard folks. How many restrictions are there in our society on where, what, and how we can say things? There, you really didn't have to thing that hard now did you?!?  In any event, requiring someone to register is neither censorship or a restriction on free speech.
So, it's very easy ... play by the rules, or don't play at all. I have been doing this for nearly 10 years. That's the only way it works.
At the moment, it appears users of this board are overwhelmingly in favor of doing away with the old Lurking Hurons ... I'll give it a bit more time ... but, it appears that we have an awful lot in common with Hawkeye, Uncas, and Chingachgook [sorry Magua!]!! |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 9:27:28 PM
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Originally posted by Irishgirl
OuchThat's how I talk to my kids WW not fellow grown-ups I don't see why you deleted my last post. Don't agree with it so delete it.
Irish Girl,
I am going to say just one more thing, then I am finished with this. I deleted two posts: one of yours and one of Kaya's. The reason was that you both continued to flame Liaison, even though you had been asked to discontinue. And you even threatened more retaliation!
There is one thing I have said repeatedly as moderator. I will not respond when people bash or attack me. But I will respond when people bash or attack others. In fact, I will not tolerate it. The rules of these boards strictly say that you will be kind and polite to others. You will not flame. Period.
I am sorry that you feel you must leave, but as Rich said: You play by the rules of Mohicanland or you don't play at all. |
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Kaylynn44
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Posted - September 06 2006 : 11:52:37 PM
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Irish Girl,
I really hope that you reconsider leaving. I have enjoyed many of your posts and you seem really nice.
Joyce has a job to do as moderator and sometimes has to delete posts that she feels should not be here. It doesn't happen often, but when she does remove a post, it is for a good reason.
Well, I won't be posting for a few days. Tomorrow we will be in the beautiful Tennessee mountains. We will be staying in Gatlinburg with some friends. Y'all try not to miss me too much. 
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Posted - September 07 2006 : 12:50:40 AM
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Couldn't agree more, Kaylynn44.
But to publicly argue? Well, I won't go there.
Anyway, Irishgirl...let me say,
"DON'T GO, PLEASE! I'M BEGGING YOU! YOU ARE LIKE THE AIR IN MY LUNGS, THE BLOOD IN MY VEINS! WITHOUT YOUR POSTS I SHALL LAY DOWN AND DIE! NO ONE WILL BE HERE TO SUPPORT ME OR GO ON AND ON ABOUT UNCAS AND HIS PA' CHING (well, there is my new friend Obadiah who will taint him with the term "Geezer"LOL pal!) Sorry girl, I always did have a flare for drama!
Sadly, my vote was "no" too. It's dissapointing to see the LH being abused but there it is. I will admit though that when I first came to this site I wasn't really sure about signing up because I am very leary about giving personal info over the web so the feature was kinda' nice. Also I had to dig around to register and at long last became a member (Call me blonde, I have my days!)
Sad to see it go if that's what happens, but I think it will be better this way.
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Lady of Glencairn
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Posted - September 07 2006 : 07:01:05 AM
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Q - What then prevents people from taking the time to register only to make attacking remarks anyway?
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