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zinvor
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Posted - May 13 2006 : 2:18:54 PM
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was just wondering what was the point of saying "Someday you and i are going to have serious disagreement"? i mean for the film itself? was there really one? when? sounds more like a "forecast" for the scene that was cut out later...like they were supposed to have a "man to man" talk in the end of the film... at least that's what i felt on hearing this phrase
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - May 13 2006 : 9:21:47 PM
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I think that was just Nathaniel's rather smart-alecky way of letting the Major know that he was getting more than a little irritated with him.
There was also, perhaps, a little bit of a threat there -- sort of like "you had better clean up your attitude or we may have to meet out in the back alley for a duel."
It was really, I think, a very 21st century American way of being somewhat sarcastic with someone who was being a bit disagreeable. |
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zinvor
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 03:35:44 AM
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yes, i think you are quiet right, especially when saying "21st century..." and may be that's what makes it sound a little "out of place" in 18th century scene. |
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Theresa
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 08:25:32 AM
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Hmmm...been pondering this and I think they were already having a serious disagreement.
Your explanation WW makes sense. |
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Emily
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 3:01:13 PM
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I always thought it was Nathaniels way of telling him that one of these days he was going to push that envelope a little too far and recieve a good 'ol American butt-kickin... |
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 4:07:56 PM
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Yes,I think that Hawkeye wanted to kick his ass. |
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Highlander
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 4:11:36 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Highlander
Yes,I think that Hawkeye wanted to kick his ass.
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paazau
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 9:34:35 PM
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Welcome to the board zinvor!
First I think we need to determine what Hawkeye's definition of a "serious disagreement" would be. Obviously nothing that has gone before is "serious" - Duncan's incorrect assumptions that Magua is Mohawk, and that Hawkeye is militia, Duncan's interpretation to Monroe of events at Cameron's cabin - these are all disagreements they've had so far. Now Duncan is threatening to have Hawkeye beaten from the fort. The disagreements are certainly escalating in seriousness...
I think Duncan's personal threat is one step away from a "serious disagreement" in Hawkeye's mind, and Hawkeye's comment is his way of warning Duncan that he is treading on thin ice and they will come to blows if it continues.
By the way, what deleted scene do you refer to zinvor? |
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paazau
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 9:39:26 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Wilderness Woman
It was really, I think, a very 21st century American way of being somewhat sarcastic with someone who was being a bit disagreeable.
I actually thought Hawkeye's comment sounded more British than 21st century. <to be read with a British accent> "I say old fellow, someday you and I are going to have a serious disagreement." |
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paazau
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 9:43:44 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Highlander
quote: Originally posted by Highlander
Yes,I think that Hawkeye wanted to kick his ass.
Oops,can I say a** in Mohicanland?
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Posted - May 14 2006 : 11:07:40 PM
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It was obvious from the start that these two did not like each other and came from totally different worlds. It was Hawkeye's way of letting Duncan know that he did not like him and he better watch what he said and did around him
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zinvor
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Posted - May 15 2006 : 08:29:00 AM
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i do totally agree with the comments, it's just i somehow don't like this phrase and i thought may be i was missing something essential... well i'm contended so far. and thank you paazau for saying welcome. And as for the deleted scene there was none, i only meant that i felt like it should be (like when some Rocky/ Van Damm (?) saying "I'll get you someday, son of a bi***" and by the end of the film he indeed does, so that's why i'm glad there wasn't such a scene in this really good film)
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Posted - May 15 2006 : 6:11:31 PM
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Hello zinvor! Nice to see new "face" in Mohicanland.
Regarding your question, I think like everyone else that it was just Hawkeye's "polite" warning.. |
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