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MeggieD
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 Posted - March 25 2006 : 08:39:50 AM
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In my boredom this morning I watched the Director's Expanded Edition DVD and counted the number of audible sentences and the "butt shots" of Uncas aka Eric Schweig. Some of my friends here who shall remain nameless (but their initials are Irishgirl and paazau - heehee) and I were discussing that we probably saw his buttocks/thighs more than we heard his voice. I decided to do a little research and here are my findings:
Audible sentences (including monosyllabic grunts and the single Delaware uttering under the falls) came to 20!! His last line is "GET BACK!!" and there is still what, about 35 minutes left of the movie (OK, I'm not that scientific)
Butt and or thigh shots came to 17!! 7 of which were after his last line under the falls.
This brings me to the conclusion that even though Eric Schweig was an untrained actor at the time, he was underused and unappreciated in this role.
Thank you for your time.
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 12:04:15 PM
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| Unappreciated? I disagree. I think legions of adoring female fans are greatly appreciative of Uncas' screen time. :-) |
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MeggieD
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 12:15:28 PM
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Unappreciated? I disagree. I think legions of adoring female fans are greatly appreciative of Uncas' screen time. :-)
I meant unappreciated by the filmmakers.... |
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Irishgirl
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 2:10:24 PM
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| Hey thanks Meg that was a great project you undertook this morning and what a way to relieve the boredom. I would volunteer to count his butt shots anytime. So the final conclusion is that he does indeed say more than the number of times we get to see those great butt/thigh shots. He definitely was underused in this movie. He needed to be a bit more vocal and I think he was quite capable of uttering more than three or four word sentences. Still, we all appreciate what Uncas brought to LOTM. If only they had given him much more screen time. I think us ladies out here can all be in agreement on that. |
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 4:16:18 PM
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| Thank you for sacrificing your morning to undergo the rigorous task of watching LOTM again and performing that scientific analysis MeggieD. I would suggest that we maybe need to perform this same analysis on Eric's other movies to see if there is any correlation between his screen appeal in the movie as compared to the ratio between the number of lines he speaks and the number of butt shots (should we include shirtless shots in that ratio do you think???) If you find you need an assistant to perform some of this strenuous work, just sing out. I'll watch whatever movies I can get my hands on! I've got Big Eden and Dead Man's Walk on order. |
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Mountain Man
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 6:04:26 PM
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You know girls ... I think Madeleine Stowe is a stone cold fox  , but you don’t hear me rambling on about her sexy smile, her ample breast’s, her sexy a$$ and those gorgeous leg’s of hers. And yes, even though she is mostly covered up in LOTM, I have seen her in other movies, so I do know she possesses all of these fine assets. The point I am trying to make here is ... sigh ...can’t you women enjoy LOTM for the great piece of cinamitograpy that it is, and not be caught up  in lusting  over one individual actor who is in the movie? If you’ll excuse me now, I think I’ll go watch LOTM, I really enjoy seeing Magua kick some British a$$  , and in the end he even takes out  this Mohican Indian by the name of Unc .... Oh sorry  , I forgot where I was making this post. |
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MeggieD
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 6:25:46 PM
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| so, now tell us how you really feel. |
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Posted - March 25 2006 : 10:32:25 PM
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You know girls ... I think Madeleine Stowe is a stone cold fox , but you don’t hear me rambling on about her sexy smile, her ample breast’s, her sexy a$$ and those gorgeous leg’s of hers. And yes, even though she is mostly covered up in LOTM, I have seen her in other movies, so I do know she possesses all of these fine assets. The point I am trying to make here is ... sigh ...can’t you women enjoy LOTM for the great piece of cinamitograpy that it is, and not be caught up in lusting over one individual actor who is in the movie
Fell free to ramble on about Miss Stowe Mountain Man. We agree that this is a great movie but love it also for all the wonderful actors in it and one in particular. Us girls are just having some fun "lusting" after Uncas. In truth we love Eric for his wonderful acting abilities and not just his great looks. |
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Mountain Man
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Posted - March 26 2006 : 07:52:45 AM
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In truth we love Eric for his wonderful acting abilities and not just his great looks.
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Irishgirl
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[i]Originally posted by MeggieD
Audible sentences (including monosyllabic grunts and the single Delaware uttering under the falls) came to 20!! His last line is "GET BACK!!" and there is still what, about 35 minutes left of the movie (OK, I'm not that scientific)
Butt and or thigh shots came to 17!! 7 of which were after his last line under the falls.
 Well I did a "kill count" for our sweet Uncas and was surprised to find that he only kills 11 people in this movie. I thought the kill count would have been much higher. Seemed like he was slicing people up at a much higher rate. He does go towards another guy as if to fight but we don't get to see that one so I didn't count it. This leads me to the  of who has the most kills in this movie among our trio. Probably Hawkeye but then again maybe not. Magua too could be included. Anyone else ever figured this one out??
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paazau
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Posted - March 30 2006 : 6:27:26 PM
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Interesting figures Irishgirl. No, I certainly haven't taken a count before. Sounds like it could provide interesting fodder for discussion though.
Is this a more appropriate use of our time and energy Mt Man??
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Posted - March 30 2006 : 9:31:58 PM
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Oh good grief. You girls just have w-a-a-a-a-y too much time on your hands!
Now what you really need to do is to focus on something really important... like how many times Nathaniel fixes that steely gaze upon the nearest adversary, or... how quickly he can load that l-o-o-o-o-ng rifle and fire, or... or...
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Mountain Man
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Posted - March 30 2006 : 9:58:14 PM
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Oh Great! Just when I finally thought you were coming to my aid WW, I find out you're just like the rest of the Uncas loving bunch! Only now it’s Hawkeye!  Sigh...What’s a man to do around here? Somehow I must get a Magua thread going...I must think! |
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Posted - March 30 2006 : 10:00:25 PM
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paazau
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Posted - March 31 2006 : 02:48:18 AM
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LOL! Long time no hear WW. Missed ya! 
Any time spent watchin' LOTM is time well spent in my book. Better than workin', doin' housework, watchin' tv etc etc etc etc.
Don't think I'd be up for that task WW. I'd overheat and melt in a puddle after just the first one. I have to avert my eyes when I know that look's comin' now. 
Wait a minute, here, I've got your fan... here you can have it back. I must buy myself one I think. |
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Posted - March 31 2006 : 02:51:24 AM
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What’s a man to do around here?
 Just give up and admit defeat Mt Man..
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Somehow I must get a Magua thread going...I must think!
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Posted - March 31 2006 : 7:45:54 PM
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What’s a man to do around here?
Just give up and admit defeat Mt Man..
NEVER! |
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Posted - March 31 2006 : 8:02:14 PM
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Posted - April 03 2006 : 05:52:05 AM
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Hey MM, I'm only a guest here at the moment, total bummer, but am trying to figure out how to get a membership.
Love your signature line, the quote from Magua......how true was what he said!?!?!?!?!?!
As much as I didn't like the character Wes played I think he did a fantastic job.
The only actor I didn't really feel fitted as much as I would like was Daniel Day Lewis. Don't get me wrong, I think he is an absolutely brilliantly talented actor, as an Irish man.
However, to me, Eric, Russel and Wes's characters made the movie, even tho they didn't have huge monologues. They didn't need them. |
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Posted - April 03 2006 : 09:51:51 AM
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The only actor I didn't really feel fitted as much as I would like was Daniel Day Lewis. Don't get me wrong, I think he is an absolutely brilliantly talented actor, as an Irish man
I definitely disagree with you on this one. DDL was the perfect fit for Nathaniel and he and Cora had great chemistry on screen. I personally cannot imagine any other actor in the role of Hawkeye. As an Irishwoman I am just wondering what you meant by "a brilliant actor, as an Irishman" He is a great actor regardless of where he comes from. Have you seen "My Left Foot"
I agree that Wes, Russell and Eric were magnificent but Daniel was too. |
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Posted - April 03 2006 : 6:04:48 PM
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Teehee hee, Hello Irish girl, knew I'd have to get a bite from someone.
Daniel Day Lewis is totally gorgeous, but I have seen him in too many other roles and it just made it hard for me to see him playing an Indian, tis all I am saying.
Sort of like watching Eric Bana playing a Trojan, I keep waiting to see the mullet come out with his typical "Swoit" that he always did on the comedy show he started on here in Oz. If you don't live in Australia it might be hard to see what I mean if you've not seen his comedy show.
I realised when I posted my quote that that paragraph didn't sound right.............tee hee ..........i knew someone would think I meant it in a derogatory way. But not intended, Hon, he is gorgeous.
Trouble is, I'm an Eric fan thru and thru.
My Left Foot is exactly the movie I was thinking of when I wrote that para as a guest last night. He is a beautiful strong actor, but not my fave from LOTM. Now, write about him from "In the Name of th Father"......well........now that's my fave.
Quite funny really isn't it, because he was actually born in London.
So, no, Irishgirl, I'm not being racist, far from it. He is gorgeous and a wonderful actor. Just not my pick from this movie. |
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| Hey Leylana glad to see you got registered and always good to see new posters on here with new thoughts and ideas. By the way, I never thought you were being racist or anything, I just wondered what you meant by that. If you have not figured it out yet I too am a huge Eric fan. I quest is to see all his movies and I am getting through them quite nicely. He is a very gifted actor and I think Uncas is the role that first brought him to our attention. We all had to find out more about this actor, who he was and what else he had been in. I look forward to discussing more of his roles with you. |
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Hey there Irishgirl, glad I didn't get you offside, twasn't my intention.
Of young Eric..........yummmmmmy........ have you seen his official message board site? Took me ages to find it but now have it bookmarked. Unfortunately they are not taking any more members at the moment....... major bummer.........
The link is http://www.eric-schweig.com/forum/ if you've not been there.
There is a public post from his Liaison saying he is currently filming a new movie. He's lost weight, cleaned up etc.etc.
Yeeeeeehahhhhhhh. Can not wait. My only hope is that it is a film that will make it to cinemas otherwise we are not likely to get it here in Oz.
They call us the "Lucky Country" but when it comes to all things Eric, I don't know so much.........lmao...........
Have a looksy anywho, if you've not been there.
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Yes I do go on his official website and he has two projects in the works. One is movie for the Lifetime channel so it will be on the tv over here. He plays a dad in this one and there is some conflict with his daughter's school.
The other movie is "Commanche Moon" which is a follow up to "Dead Man's Walk" if you have seen that one. He will reprise his role as "Buffalo Hump" a role I really loved him in. That I believe is due to start filming in June sometime. It will probably be for the telly too but not sure.
Yes, he is supposed to have slimmed down and be in great shape now. I believe they will post photos when they can. Can't wait to see the so called "new improved Eric". Personally I like him any way I can see him. He is a great looking guy even with a few extra pounds on his frame. It just comes naturally with getting older. We can all relate to that I am sure. None of us are as slim as we were in our twenties.
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Posted - April 04 2006 : 10:11:31 AM
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So true Hon, sad, but so true............lol
See, I told you I was probably the last to get there.......
No matter, just glad I have found it now.
And you are so right about any way he looks is fine, his eyes get to me, so I don't really take a great deal of notice about the rest of him.......most of the time anywhooooo.......heeheehee
 
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