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Posted - October 01 2005 :  10:44:38 PM  Reply with Quote
I watched a lot of times daniel-day lewis film and recently knew that the James Fenimore book is completly different, so different that (tell me if I´m wrong) Cora is inlove with Uncas and this one seems to be the main character. Another thing that I didn`t know is that Cora dies. Could anyone (if understand my bad english) explain me why the film is so different (I think that if the book is like that, the film is better)
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Posted - October 02 2005 :  08:14:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The film is different because it would take 20-30 hours to film the entire book. Most people won't sit still that long so they had to simplify for the film. In the book, Hawkeye and Chingachgook are old friends who grew up together and went through a lot together, including a couple of wars. Uncas is the handsome young leading man. Unrequited love was big in the 19th century when the book was written but doesn't fit into the "all problems get solved in 1/2 hour" 21st century. A convoluted story with many subplots and intracacies is a lot of work and most people want simpler stuff for entertainment.

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Posted - October 02 2005 :  12:48:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
In film they changed a bit roles of Cora and Alice. Cooper wrote that Duncan is in love with Alice and Uncas in Cora. Cora died and Magua doesn't want to kill sisters but marry Cora. In the end we can think that Magua loves Cora too. When she died he was furious and killed her murderer. In film he is more cruel.
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Posted - October 27 2005 :  2:13:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Okay, in the book it dwells a lot more on the issue of race. Cora is caught in an unusual love triangle. Uncas loves Cora who appears to have formed a quiet attachment to him, but Magua also loves Cora (at one point he gives her an ultimatum: he will free Duncan and Alice if she agrees to marry him). To make matters even more complicated, Cora is of mixed race herself; she and Alice are only half sisters, Cora's mother is descended remotely from black slaves. (Correct me if I'm wrong in that)

So Magua redeems himself slightly in the book by killing the Huron who murders Cora. You also come to feel slightly sorry for him in that he is in love with Cora. In the film, he is more of a villain.

Duncan and Alice are in love, and Alice is still kind of a wimp, but a little less shell shocked than she is in the film. These are the only two who really get a happy ending, as Uncas and Cora both die.

I saw the film before reading the book, so to be honest I prefer the movie version. Also, Cooper's novel can be a bit of a drag at times reading through his prose style. Still, it's worth a read if you liked the movie.

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Posted - October 27 2005 :  2:42:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It's suprising that Cora and Alice are not ordinary sisters and there is no word about it in the film. I've read Cooper's book and there was something when Duncan came to Munro and asked if he could marry his daughter. Munro thought that he chose Alice because Cora is "half-savage" or something similar (I'm not sure because I've read it in Polish but meaning is alike).
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Posted - October 27 2005 :  5:28:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I read the book way before the movie came out and I found the movie to be more intriguing. In the book there's no romance. And honestly imagining and seeing Uncasare two entirely different worlds.

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Hmm, in the book, didn't Cora state that...it would be better for Magua to take gold and such from Munro and get the heart of a Huron maid, instead of marry a woman that he (Magua) didn't even love?

Sorry if I missed a point here, I read the book a little while ago and can't remember details. But didn't Magua want to marry Cora just to annoy the heck out of Munro or something?

IMO, I wouldn't have guessed the book and movie were related (if you exclude names and such.) They're like night and day. O__0

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Posted - December 20 2005 :  3:38:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Book and the movie are really different, but they are both entertaining, exiting and touching, even sad in their own ways. Book is giving more detailed picture about wilderness life and the indians than movie.

But nothing can be more touching than what Chingachgook and Tamenund (old Delaware chief) say in the end of book, and after reading the book I think I understand much more the life of the indians and their habits.

Chingachgook:

"why do my brothers mourn, why do my doughters weep! That a young man has gone to hte happy hunting grounds; that a chief has filled his time with honor? He was good: he was dutiful; he was brave. Who can deny it? The Manitto had need of such warrior, and he has called him away. As for me, the son and the father of Uncas, I am a blazed pine, in a clearing of the palefaces. My race has gone from the shores of the salt lake, and the hils of Delawares. But who can say that the serpent of his tribe has forgotten his wisdom?"

Tamenund:

"It is enough, go, children of the Lenape, the anger of the Manitto is not gone. Why should tamenund stay? The palefaces are masters of the earth, and the time of the red men has not yet come again. My day has been too long. In the morning I saw the sons of Unamis happy and strong; and yet, before the night has come, have I lived to see he last warrior of the wise race of the Mohicans."

Harri
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