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Christina
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USA
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 Posted - March 30 2005 : 1:30:42 PM
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Poll Question:
The ethical and moral issues of the tragic Terri Schiavo case could be debated forever. Here's a more concrete question. What do you think of how the media (broadcast, print, radio, Internet) has been covering this story? Too much? Too little? Tacky? Right on the money? After you respond, tell us where you have gotten most of your information about this case, and any specific slams or praises you may have of that coverage.
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Stephanie
Gathering Sachemess
USA
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Posted - March 30 2005 : 3:19:08 PM
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All the media coverage and protestors camping outside the hospice are SO unfair to the other patients and their families. Remember them? Everyday people who have loved ones in the hospice who probably won't be coming home. Imagine going to visit your loved one on their death bed and having to face all those nuts and get past security. It's sick! Yes, people have a right to free speech but what about the rights of the OTHER patients and families there?
Just one of my thoughts on this,
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Kate
Ariel's Cabin Caretaker, Retired
United Kingdom
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Posted - March 30 2005 : 5:28:35 PM
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It seems to me that the media are getting far too much ENJOYMENT out of the misery of others! It seems to me that many of the media people are metaphorically rubbing their hands with glee that they have finally gotten a chance to cover some 'juicy tidbit of news' and it makes me want to scream.
These are REAL people, with real issues and a REAL PROBLEM to solve, for goodness sake. I think that poor lady would be absolutely MORTIFIED to think that her personal problems are creating a media circus.
There is no denying that there are real ethical and moral dilemma's here but I think it's just totally wrong that things have come to the point everyone and his/her dog are being hauled in to adjudicate and make a judgement on whether she should be kept alive or not. It shouldn't have come to this. The law should have been much clearer as to who assumes responsibility for the welfare - and well being, of a patient in this condition.
Not knowing much about her husband's 'history', I read with interest Sarge's points regarding Terri's husband's qualifications for assuming responsibility for her condition - and his qualifications sound pretty ropey, to say the least. If she had once said 'if that were ever to happen to me, I'd want you to pull the plug', then... I'd say her husband would know best what she wanted. HOWEVER, having taken the money to provide for years of 'assisted' living, then I say, "why did you take the money if she didn't want to live this way??? And why are you so keen to 'put her out of her misery' NOW????"
And I don't believe that grieving parents are in a place where they can make rational decisions as to whether their child should 'continue to live' (be it sustained by a feeding tube) or not. OF COURSE they are going to say YES!! It's NORMAL for parents to want their child(ren) to stay alive, NO MATTER WHAT OR HOW. It's the normal order of things that your child(ren) die AFTER you.
And therefore, I believe that interpretation of 'death' and whether Terri is considered 'brain dead', should be determined by medical people who are best qualified to do this. The question of whether to continue to keep her alive should be answered SOLELY on whether it is in Terri's best interests or not. People with vested interests cannot make this judgement - and SHOULD NOT be asked to. In a 'tug-of-love' like this, whether it is in Terri's best interests to continue 'feeding' or not, should be determined by someone who is NOT limited by personal feelings for Terri - or motivated by religious convictions.
I think that Stephanie has a good point... it's really disgusting that the media circus is making the other patient's and their famlies lives, so much more difficult, at an already difficult time!
Have these people no conscience?
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Kate
"Cuimhnich air na daoine o'n d'thainig thu." (Remember the people from whom you came.)
~ Celtic Wisdom
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SgtMunro
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Posted - March 30 2005 : 7:01:14 PM
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Alas, I feel that this whole debate is quickly becoming moot, as Ms. Schindler-Schiavo is quickly approaching the 'point of no return'. I agree with both Kate and Stephanie, that being the media circus is truly a tragedy; but what is also a tragedy is that sworn law enforcement officers are forced, by a judge of questionable motives, to stand-by and allow a woman to be starved to death.
We have heard from Attorney Felos, as he talked of the 'euphoria' encountered while starving to death. If there is such 'euphoria', then why did they start a Moraphine drip, last week? Ms. Schindler-Schiavo had no chronic condition, which put her in pain, before being deprived of food. Mr. Felos is an interesting cat himself, here is a guy who is both a member of The Hemlock Society, and sits on the board of directors for the hospice in question. Now, if I had family in there, I'd be a little worried of someone 'speeding-up the inevitiable' out of a sake of convienence. I could just be paranoid, but hey, even paranoids have enemies...
It is also interesting to note the relationship between Felos, Schiavo, Judge Greer and the Sheriff of Pinelas County. Felos and Greer have been buddies for a long time, nothing unusual there since most judges started as lawyers; but, it makes me wonder as to why Judge Greer did not excuse himself from the case initially, with Felos' relationship to the board of directors. Also, did all of you know that Michael Schiavo was hired by the Sheriff of Pinelas County to work as a nurse at the jail? Most interesting, since the sheriff is also buddies with Judge Greer and Attorney Felos. This place is starting to look like Arkansas with palm trees!
Now, where am I going with this? Do I think that Greer & Felos are evil, no I do not. Greedy maybe, but not evil. I think that Felos looked at that large settlement of Michael's, and wondered how much of it he could milk-off for legal services. I have delt with too many lawyers and judges over the years, not to pick-up how a good number of them operate. One needs to look no further than the previous tobacco settlement, and now the legal war against 'big food', to get the idea that most lawyers will go after anyone who has money or property, they could legally steal.
Going back to the current case, I agree with Kate, in that an independent party should have been made Terri's legal guardian. Unfortunately for her, Judge Greer saw fit to appoint himself as said guardian. Now, am I the only one to see this as a little odd? Especially since you have both county and state level protective services for the infirmed. As I have said initially, if this was truly a case of her wish to die, then I would not have even hesitated in my agreement with her wishes. But, there are way too many stange connections going on here, not to take a closer look.
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Christina
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Posted - March 31 2005 : 12:09:43 PM
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| As I have many times in the past two years or so, I'm finding my best source of coverage on events here at home to be the British press. The best, most objective, non-sensational and non-hackneyed coverage of this event that I've seen has been from the BBC (TV, radio and its internet coverage, which included the most thoughtful and comprehensive discussion board on this topic I've seen on media sites) and, believe it or not, The Financial Times, which has offered some genuine objective analysis on this story against the backdrop of what laws are in other countries. |
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