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Posted - February 16 2005 :  4:23:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
other then last of the mohicans, what is your favorite indian movie in a historic setting, an indian movie being where major charicters are indian, and are developed, rather then being mere nusances/targets/body count a la northwest passage or jerimiah johnson

probaly a few i havent thought of yet...
{can't belive i missed blackrobe}

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broken chain
dances with wolves
little big man
genonimo {tnt version}
crazy horse {tnt version}
squanto {disney live}
man called horse
tecomseh
son of the morning star
black robe

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Posted - February 17 2005 :  05:40:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Black Robe, Little Big Man, Geronimo [w/Wes Studi] immediately come to my mind among the missing ...
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Posted - February 17 2005 :  08:20:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My wife taped a movie on the Hallmark Channel. She said it was 1750's, F&I, had Eric Schweig in it, etc. Turned out to be "Follow the River". They should throw it in the river! Worst one I have seen in a while. Schweig should apologize for that one.

One time years ago, a station in the LA area was running the movie "Silver Chalace", starring Paul Newman, for five straight nights. Paul Newman took out an add in the local paper which said "Paul Newman apologizes evey night this week."
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Posted - February 17 2005 :  11:02:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Most definitely "Dances"!

Now that I have my DVD player I intend on purchasing the "Dances" DVD to get all the extra (about 1 hour's worth) scenes!

"It is more deeply stirring to my blood than any imaginings could possibly have been."
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Posted - February 17 2005 :  4:07:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
have that one, nothing major i remember that was not on the vhs release, but i never saw the theatrical release... there is a fan site with pictures at:
http://loveletter.dl-dreams.com
nothing as extensive as this site,though...
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Posted - February 17 2005 :  8:06:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I also voted for "Dances With Wolves" - and by the way, Wilderness Woman, I have the DVD of the expanded version of the movie and unlike the director's version of LOTM, nothing is cut out and there is almost an hour of additional footage! MICHAEL MANN, ARE YOU LISTENING???!!!

I am ashamed to admit that I haven't seen most of the other films listed here but I see an opportunity now to watch them all - between continued repeated viewings of LOTM, of course! - and then maybe buy DVD's of the ones I like the most!

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Posted - February 17 2005 :  9:13:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I liked Dances With Wolves, but my big complaint about it was that all the Indians were portrayed as good, and all the Whites portrayed as bad. I realize that in many films, the opposite was portrayed, but neither of these is realistic. I wish it had been more balanced. The story was good.
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Posted - February 18 2005 :  11:59:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit SgtMunro's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I have to throw-in with Sachem Rich, and agree that 'Black Robe' was excellent, and 'Geronimo' is a very close runner-up.


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Posted - February 19 2005 :  04:28:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit Seamus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I voted for Dances With Wolves.....lots of good stuff in it. LOTS!

Saw one ages ago called "Windwalker" which held my attention, too. I do believe, however, that the best Indian movie has NOT been made yet.

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Posted - February 21 2005 :  12:13:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Chris

I liked Dances With Wolves, but my big complaint about it was that all the Indians were portrayed as good, and all the Whites portrayed as bad. I realize that in many films, the opposite was portrayed, but neither of these is realistic. I wish it had been more balanced. The story was good.



Not really, Chris ... the movie is shown through the eyes of Dunbar - and his adopted Lakota family. From that perspective, they ARE good ... The People.

The Pawnees, on the other hand ...
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Posted - February 21 2005 :  12:43:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The Pawnees, on the other hand ...


As in LOTM, Wes Studi was really good at being a bad guy in this film!

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Posted - February 21 2005 :  1:21:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Hi Rich,
I hadn't thought about it from that perspective. Thanks. I love the music and play the CD almost as often as LOTM.
Chris
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Posted - February 25 2005 :  11:19:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I don't know if you consider it appropriate for your standard of being Indian rather than white focused, but I really like the old western BROKEN ARROW (not to be confused with that thing with Travolta and Christian Slater). Although it's dated in many ways by today's standards, I love the fact that it has the white hero (played by Jimmy Stewart) ready to take to the "warpath" to avenge the wrongs done by the bad guys, and it's the "savage" Cochise (yeah, he's played by the white guy Jeff Chandler, but that was how movies were made back then) who is the voice of reason and conciliation. And I think director Delmer Daves sincerely wanted to make a movie that showed Indian/white relations in a more complex, historically accuarte style than most movies had (sort of like MOHICANS, no?).

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Posted - March 22 2005 :  5:59:31 PM  Show Profile  Send chasis_22 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Like the majority...I voted for Dances With Wolves. I love everything about the movie. Geronimo was also a very excellent movie. Oh and the expanded version does have extra stuff in it. I have yet to see it but my sister watched it and she said she saw a lot of new things and she loved it!
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I voted for "Son of the Morning Star." It's fairly accurate, historically, and David Strathairn is frightening as Capt. Benteen.

Interestingly, the real Benteen had absolutely no use for Custer (how astute!) and disrespected him every chance he got...and Custer never did a thing about it...because he knew that Benteen would kill him without batting an eye!

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