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Posted - February 03 2005 :  1:45:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
I picked a handful of Civil War films below, many great ones are unrepresented. Pick one of the below listed films and tell us why it was your favorite. Then tell us about any sweet, unlisted films that you recommend.

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Abraham Lincoln
Andersonville
The Blue and the Gray
Cold Mountain
The Civil War- Ken Burns
Gettysburg
Glory
Gods and Generals
Gone With the Wind
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Hunley
How the West Was Won
North and South
Roots
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I owe my love of history to Ken Burns' (the antichrist to many southerners who can't come to terms with the fact that the war is over and the CSA lost) documentary "The Civil War." Before I watched this on tv as a young'n I hated history, but as I sat watching this incredible documentary, it was like someone fipped a switch, and overnight I became incredibly interested in American history. That started a near 10 year obsession with the Civil War which eventually waned as I discovered earlier history, and became more interested in the 17th-18th centuries. "Glory" is also excellent, I got it on VHS for my 12th birthday and watched it over and over and over until the tape pretty much wore out, I still have it somewhere. The other film I think deserves to be on the list is "Ride with the Devil" about the war in Missouri and Kansas, one of the best films ever made period.

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Posted - February 03 2005 :  2:59:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kaylynn44's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I picked North and South. I loved Patrick Swayze as Orry Main. The mini series just really brought you back to the Civil War and how friendships were tested during that time.
There is another movie that I haven't seen in years. I can't remember the name of it, but it had James Caan in it and it was about seven guys from Texas that came to fight in the Civil War. I do remeber that Harrison Ford was in it too. A very young Harrison Ford. I can't remeber who else was in it, but I do remember that it was a real tear jerker!!!

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I chose Cold Mountain, I enjoyed the book and loved the film. I havent seen many of the others on the list.

One film missing is Ride With The Devil, I thought it was an excellent film and showed the war from a different perspective.
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Posted - February 04 2005 :  09:29:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit Seamus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The Red Badge of Courage.....great film!!

I voted for Glory, however, of the listed films. My wife's great-grandfather, Joseph Culbert, served as a Surgeon's Steward aboard one of the ships which bombarded the fort to 'soften' it up before the assault, which we all know was ineffective. One does not destroy a sand fort with artillery! And many good men sacrificed themselves in a failed attempt to take the fort.

The ship, the "Nantucket", was a single turreted monitor with an 11-
inch and a 15-inch smoothbore guns, a member of the South Atlantic Blockading Squadron. She....and Joseph Culbert...was there when CSS Hunley sunk the USS Husatonic. I have microfilms of her deck logs and muster rolls for the period of Culbert's service. We also have a flag which flew aboard the Nantucket, and was brought home by Culbert at the end of his service. It was, according to his handwritten note with the flag, "...condemned as being weatherworn, it came into my possesion." After it laid in a box, folded, in an attic for about 135 years, it was given to us by Nancy's father and aunt. I have had it properly conserved, documented, and museum-mounted, and it hangs in a protected place here in our B&B.

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I voted for Gettysburg. For sheer scope and power of war, I think this tops them. I also love the emotions it evokes.

Glory would be a very close second for me. Great film!

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Posted - February 04 2005 :  8:18:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit caitlin's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I totally agree with CT Ranger, The Civil War by Ken Burns is definitely a must-see!

My hubby loves North & South, though we tend to rewatch Gettysburg over and over (did I say, OVER?) again!


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'Gettysburg' was a wonderful movie, but I must agree with Seamus and vote for 'Glory'. 'Glory' captured the human side of armed conflict slightly better than 'Gettysburg', since it follows these young men from recruitment to finality. It reminds all of us that the young man holding the rifle, and fighting for what he believes in, is not a 'Superman', but he is everyman. He is our brother, father, son, uncle and nephew. He is our neighbor, stranger, and he is our friend. It is he that guarentees that forums like this one will always be alowed to exist, and that our families can sleep safe at night...

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Oh, man! Too many good choices to pick just one. I decided on Roots because it was an epic and so well done. I also loved Shenandoah, How the West Was Won, Gone With the Wind, and one I can't remember the name of. (I'm one of those GGGGs.) It starred Jody Foster as a woman whose husband came home from the war a very different man (in a good way) from the man who left her. Does anyone have a clue what I'm talking about?
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Posted - February 05 2005 :  02:41:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit blueotter's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Golly!

It was hard to pick because there are several really good movies on the list! Something for everybody! I agree with comments on "Gettysburgh", which broke my heart and made me feel as close to peril as about any other movie I've ever seen (except perhaps "Master & Commander", since it made me feel almost drenched with sea water!); and "Glory", which also broke my heart, because the spirits of the characters seemed to merge wholly with the physical -- a testament to the belief that we possess souls. And what can I say -- Ken Burns rocks!

But I had to vote for "Cold Mountain", although it's not so much ABOUT the Civil War as it is the journies that Inman, Ada and Ruby took (and a few of the other characters, as well). I read the book 3 times (once before I saw the movie) and orded the DVD before it came out (Amazon). My only disappointment was that Nicole Kidman didn't come close to portraying the character of Ada that was presented in the book. It was OK, though, because the author was accepting of everything Minghella did with the script, and that's good enough for me.

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Posted - February 05 2005 :  09:20:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My vote went to "Gettysburg" ... love the score & Pickett's Charge is an emotional peak. But, I agree with the comments about "Glory," and it is a very close second on my list. GREAT cast!
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Originally posted by Chris

Oh, man! Too many good choices to pick just one. I decided on Roots because it was an epic and so well done. I also loved Shenandoah, How the West Was Won, Gone With the Wind, and one I can't remember the name of. (I'm one of those GGGGs.) It starred Jody Foster as a woman whose husband came home from the war a very different man (in a good way) from the man who left her. Does anyone have a clue what I'm talking about?
Chris



That would be Sommersby (1993)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108185/

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Posted - February 19 2005 :  02:30:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dark Woods's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There are many good movies about the War Between the States (AKA the Ameican Civil War). It is hard to choose a favorite, but I went with Gods and Generals--I love the music, and the flags in the opening credits speak to me powerfully about those individuals who were members of those units. I can seem to sense their spirits when I watch that.
Glory is a close second. It powerfully portrays both large actions and things that affect one or a few individuals.

A movie not listed that I also enjoyed is "Ironclads" revolving about the Monitor and the Virginia (AKA Merrimac).

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Posted - February 19 2005 :  07:19:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kaylynn44's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Originally posted by Chris

It starred Jody Foster as a woman whose husband came home from the war a very different man (in a good way) from the man who left her. Does anyone have a clue what I'm talking about?
Chris



Originally posted by Caitlin

That would be Sommersby (1993)


Chris and Caitlin,
If I had thought of Sommersby at the time, that would have been my pick. Sommersby has always been one of my all time favorite movies!!!

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Posted - March 22 2005 :  6:11:14 PM  Show Profile  Send chasis_22 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I chose Glory. Awesome movie, great cast, and very very realistic if you ask me.
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Posted - April 09 2005 :  6:59:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I chose Glory as well! This movie is one of the very best that I have ever seen!
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Glory is definitely at the top of my list. When it first came out, (1989?...that long ago?) I and all my reenactor friends went to the show to watch it, and we were all in uniform! Of course, every uniform was either gray or butternut (no "blue suits" at all). I think we were all expecting something like "Feris Bueller Fights the Civil War." Were we wrong! Even though there were a few glaring historical errors, we were really entranced. When the 54th Mass was in the woods in line of battle awaiting the charging Rebs, we were all shouting "fix bayonets, fix bayonets!" So of course the bayonets magically appeared in the very next scene...

When the movie ended, we walked out to the lobby (with lumps in our throats) and watched everyone else leave; most had tears in their eyes. One of my best friends (who had been a member of the 5th Texas forever) commented "I can't believe I was rooting for the Yankees!" I knew the feeling...

BTW, that was the 1st time I had ever seen Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, or Andre Braugher.
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The North and the South definitely. I loved that mini-series and Patrick Swayze was just great in it and so many famous actors took part. It had everything including romance. To this day I still love to watch it. Another one I loved was The Blue and The Gray. Great story about two families and Stacy Keach was great in this one. Once again it had the romance in it as well.

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Posted - September 20 2006 :  8:44:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Gone With The Wind...

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I picked North and South. I loved Patrick Swayze as Orry Main. The mini series just really brought you back to the Civil War and how friendships were tested during that time.
There is another movie that I haven't seen in years. I can't remember the name of it, but it had James Caan in it and it was about seven guys from Texas that came to fight in the Civil War. I do remeber that Harrison Ford was in it too. A very young Harrison Ford. I can't remeber who else was in it, but I do remember that it was a real tear jerker!!!

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That James Caan/Harrison Ford oater you're thinking of is Journey to Shiloh (1968). Some of the other players were: Don Stroud, Paul Peterson, Jan-Michael Vincent (a HS classmate of mine & just as much a jerk then), John Doucette (as Braxton Bragg), Noah Berry Jr, James Gammon.

As far a North & South is concerned, I can only say one thing:
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My all time picture of the Second American Revolution is " Gods and Generals" by far..

I am a C/W Reenactor ( Confedrate Infantry) and my unit went and took part in the filming of the movie and I had members of my family who fought in Jackson's unit so for me it was quite a thrill.

Many people don't look at how men where at that time by the standards that were in place then. We apply our own standards to these men.

Many people don't know that Lee was offered the command of the ENTIRE Federal Army on the recommadation of General W. Hancock ( Ole Fuss and Feathers).

Or, that Thomas J. Jackson was a very quiet, thoughtful and bookish sort of person. They just look at his quirks w/o seeing what a decent sort of man he was. Watch the scene where he has the little girl on his shoulders or is with her in his office. You get the sense of isolation that Jackson had for his own family that he would NOT allow himself to avail himself of leave as he felt it was his duty to deny himself and to lead his men.

Ok, I'll stop all the history lesson now.....Any Yankee out there want to trade some good tobacco for some coffee?

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I respectfully disagree (as one re-enactor to another...I was in the 14th Tenn. for 10 years) about 'G&G'. Although it was one of the better CW movies I have seen, still... I think Stephen Lang is an awesome actor ("The law don't go around here, Kansas lawdog!"), that hokey fake beard he wore took away a lot of the authenticity. (A farb beard?) I'd put it in 2nd place on my list, after Glory. And, yes, I'm well aware of Glory's faults in that regard. Still, it's hard to beat a movie with Morgan Freeman/Denzel Washington/Andre Braugher in it.
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LOL @ "farb beards" there Obediah.

I do agree with you on that issue....Take a look at some of the farb beards in "Gettysburg" as well.

I liked "Glory" as well....Morgan Freeman rocks ( as he always does).

Well, I've got to get going here...My unit is doing our yearly tatical event soon and I've got some gear that I want to make sure is ready to go.

Ah, the joys of a hardcore campgain type unit.

Later!
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iam a bit late in jumping in but here goes,
as someone who was an extra in both gettysburg and G&G, i must say gettysburg gets my nod. the whole movie was great from start to finish. Gods was a huge disapointment. other then the battle parts the movie sucked. glory is number two on my list.
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I agree that G&G was a disappointment, but I have to include the battle scenes in that as well. It's been a while since I've watched it, but it seemed that they used the same clips over and over... pieced them together to make it look like a battle. I know a guy who was an extra and we could see him in a battle scene and it was obvious they used the same short clip of him again and again.

The only redeeming part about that movie, IMO, was Stephen Lang.
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Stephen Lang just about steals every scene in every movie he does! My three favorites of his:

3) TJ Jackson, "G&G"
2) G. Pickett, "G'burg"
1) Ike Clanton, "Tombstone" (not too accurate, historically, but the only actor to match Val Kilmer, IMO)
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