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Wilderness Woman
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 Posted - September 17 2004 : 4:32:45 PM
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Occasionally, on the re-enacting email lists I belong to, someone will send through a funny comment they have received from the public. This one came through today and it just struck me so funny:
My favorite actually happened on our way home from an event. We drove home in kit, and had to stop for gas along the highway. My DH got out and was pumping the gas in his Butler's [Rangers] kit, leather leggins, etc., oblivious to the fact the we might look odd to others, when a young fellow pumping gas next to us said - with some trepidition in his voice, "What is it you do that they make you dress like that?"
 Sometimes people just don't understand...
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Jacy
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Posted - September 20 2004 : 10:04:12 AM
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Hee hee!! It's like you've committed a crime or something - what a fool!
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Seamus
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Posted - September 20 2004 : 10:40:57 AM
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I was once asked by a waitress why I "was wearing those clothes," when we stopped for breakfast on our way to an event. I simply replied, "Well, young lady, it is not legal to run around here naked."
Her face reddened a bit as peals of laughter arose from nearby tables of diners! She didn't ask again, and I kindly explained it to her after we ate.....and she was OK with it all, although she admitted to feeling a bit foolish.
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Many Flags
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Posted - September 20 2004 : 4:20:38 PM
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| I could go on and on about this one!! Usually, people just part the way and let you through.....eating fast food, I can usually move right up to the front in leggins and breechclout. The people who look out of the corner of their eye cause they are afraid to actually stare!! Cousin Malcolm has a great time in a kilt, though! The stories he has makes me laugh and laugh.....the time at the Carolina Pig BarBQ.....the waitress talking about the "quilt and sporgan" where "y'all keep her family jewels!"......going into truck stops late at night.....the looks from truckers when one has a kilt on...but then they notice the dirk, belt knife, armpit knife, etc. and they turn their attention away. Oh, it's fun!!! Pax Aye! Many Flags |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 20 2004 : 7:31:54 PM
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Please do go on, Flags! Tell us some good ones.
Here's another:
Three of us went to Mr. Walton's Mercantile [WalMart] on a hot day during a re-enactment to check out the fabric (and the reputedly cool air). Walking about with our [18th century-style] market baskets, we were asked if we were taking donations!
By the way, Seamus... you are so-o-o-o-o naughty!
My two friends and I had gone dressed in our "real" clothes to the 225th Anniversary of the Boyd-Parker Ambush, and went to eat supper after the event in the lovely little town of Geneseo, New York. We chose an Italian place that had tables and chairs outdoors on the street. We thought it would be great fun to display ourselves in all of our finery... hats and all. We received a lot of curious glances and out-and-out stares, to which I always smiled pleasantly back. But no one said one word to us about our "funny clothes." Perhaps because Geneseo is a college town?
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Jacy
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 03:42:42 AM
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People don't like what they can't understand - I guess it's a natural reaction. You're not hurting anyone and you look great so it's all good to me!
You ever been given a donation?
I saw that happen once in London, an elderly couple dressed in the finest Victorian attire - amazing they looked, a crowd drew round and gave them money - they tried to insist that it was not a scheme to get cash but the crowd wouldn't have any - I think they gave the money to a dog's home in the end!
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 05:06:20 AM
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Many Flags
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 07:47:21 AM
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Sitting with cousin Malcolm last night he told me that a few years ago he was heading to a Burns Dinner dressed in full Jacobite attire. He stopped at a store to pick up something and a man walked up to him and said, "I've been to your country." Malcolm looked quizzical and asked, in a Scottish accent, "My country?" "Yes," said the man, "you live in Scotland, right?" Not missing a beat, but still in Scots accent, he said, "Nay, Mon, I live aboot 6 miles up the road from here!".......HAAAA! The man laughed and said, "Right, I know you're from Scotland. Why else would you have on that cute outfit!!" Malcolm says his kilt, etc. are often referred to as "cute"!!
I'll think of some more comments and post them...pax aye! Many Flags |
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Seamus
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 08:24:31 AM
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| A couple of years ago, while on our way home from Old Mill Village, still in uniform, but without hat and regimental, Drummer Bolich and I stopped at the PA Turnpike Toll Booth at Scranton, PA. I was driving my truck and towing our trailer emblazoned with the "GR 2" crown cypher, "3rd Battalion Pennsylvania", "The Augusta Regiment", and "1756-1764" in huge gold letters on the maroon trailer. As I stopped at the window, the guy sitting there looked at me and started chattering in a foreign tongue, which I recognized as Polish, but I had NO IDEA what he was saying. Now, being in Scranton, Polish is spoken by many people, so it surfaces frequently. But, at this moment, I could not figure it out. I looked at him, said, "I beg your pardon?", and he says in plain English while gesturing at our clothing, "What band are you?" I was wearing my white ruffled cuff and front shirt, a white neck cloth, a silver gorget, and my crimson weskit, laced with silver. Jim was in similar attire, with no silver trim or gorget. I said, "HUH?" He says, " Aren't you one of us?", and I replied, "I have no idea what you are talking about." Rather agitated, the guy says, "Aren't you guys in a polka band??" I said, very politely, without laughing in his face, "No, sir, we are not." He says, "Well, then, what ARE you?" Exasperated, and sensing that any explanation of what we were and what we did would be lost on him, I said, while pointing backwards with my thumb, "It's on the trailer. I'll drive real slow for you," and eased on down the road. Jim and I exploded in laughter as soon as the window was shut, and sang polkas the rest of the way home.....an hour and a half. To this day, whenever we pass through that particular toll booth, we sing a few polkas and salute Frankie Yankovic, Jimmy Sturr, Jan Lewan, Marty Kukovich and a couple of other good polka bands........and wonder if our friend still works there. Haven't seen him since! |
Life's journey is not to
arrive at the grave safely
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
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'...holy sh*t ...what a ride!'
~~Mavis Leyrer, Seattle
Seamus
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 08:26:36 AM
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Flags, tell Malcolm it must be the "cute" bare knees...
Here's another from a lady:
"Several of my friends and I were walking together at a summer event on a very warm day. A spectator approached and asked us if we were hot. One friend's teen-age son, who was walking just behind us, immediately replied dryly, 'They like to think so.'"
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Many Flags
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 10:51:39 AM
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Well, the classic which all of us 18th century reenactors laugh about is when you walk into a public place and first of all people say, "So, why do you have that costume on?" (ARGHHH,....the C word....ARGHHHH !!). When one of us comments that we are 18th century reenactors (this is dressed as colonials: breeches or clout, tricorn, etc.....all 18th century clothing)....the next comment is, "Oh, so you reenact at Gettysburg!"....or "Do you play confederate or yankee?" ARGHHHH.......Seamus and I talked a few years ago about making up t-shirts with the 10 stupid questions 18th century reenactors are asked....on the front.....and our 10 retorting comments on the back......I have gotten to the point that I don't do well with the public, I don't fraternize with them so I don't lose my temper....and MALCOLM...well, he don't like those tourons AT ALL!! Too many years of questions about costumes, Gettysburg, and "is that a real fire?" Pax Aye! Malcolm
(But, I'm glad that many reenactors DO take the time to educate the public! It has to be done and is very important.....After 20 years of doing this.....I guess cousin Malcolm and I are getting to be old curmudgeons!!) |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 2:01:03 PM
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Now this one is... perfect! I love it!
"Twelve years ago I lived in the Amish and Mennonite country of Pennsylvania. I was doing a program at one of the state historic sites there and on my way home I remembered that I had not put anything down for dinner. So, here I am in 18th c. clothing, stopping at a store on the way home. As I looked into the meat compartment, I could feel someone staring at me. It was a little old Amish lady.
I looked up and said, 'Isn't it nice to have the shoe on the other foot?' Though she was embarrassed, she started to giggle, and her husband began to creep away. I then said, 'Where is the camera when you need it?' She began to laugh so hard that she told me to stop or she would make water.
It just goes to show that no matter what our background we are all curious when we see something different."
Flags, I think I can understand how you and Malcolm feel. It must be so difficult to have to repeat the same answers over and over again, year after year to the same stupid questions... and remain polite about it. But, I know that your 21st century alter-ego is an educator and as such, shouldn't you have the patience and the fortitude, if you will, to continue to educate people who didn't pay attention in high school American History and really have no clue?
Yeah, I know. I'm a fine one to "lecture" you, having just begun this remarkable journey. But, you see... I've also been one of those "tourons" and I have observed, first-hand, re-enactors being snappy, or giving sarcastic and rude answers to the public. Not that you have done that, but there are plenty who do. It is not "a good thing."
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Gadget Girl
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 2:16:29 PM
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This is a bit off topic, but does concern those over-asked questions...When I was expecting my daughter I worked right up until the day "of my confinement" and wearing white uniforms (like we all did back then) just accentuated the ummmmm...situation ( my belly rounded corners long before the rest of me). toward the end, folks would say "Haven't you had that baby yet?". Well, I would smile and say "No, not yet!" until I could take no more and screamed at some poor soul one morning "YES, I'VE HAD IT - THIS IS ANOTHER ONE!!!!!" The poor guy's eyes got big as saucers and I don't think he talked to me for a year!
Sometimes what comes up, just comes out! 
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Christina
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 Posted - September 21 2004 : 2:40:43 PM
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This is completely off topic but is in the vein of Diana's story. My "stupid question" episodes revolve around the fact that growing up I was one of only 29,000 Roman Catholics in an overwhelmingly Baptist, evangelical state (now there are more than 130,000 Catholics in South Carolina, thanks largely to northern retirees, Hispanics and folks from up north moving down here...) but I digress...I always got the stupid questions on Ash Wednesday when I'd go to Mass in the morning and get "smudged" with ashes ... those who follow traditional Catholic custom would leave the ashes on their foreheads throughout the day. You can imagine what this caused going to public high school, into stores and etc. I got everything from "Hey, you forgot to wash this morning!" to "How in the heck did you smudge your mascara THAT bad?"
but the dumb questions paled in comparison to what happened to one of my high school classmates. She had on her ashes and went into a Piggly Wiggly grocery store to buy something and a little old OLD fashioned Southern lady standing in front of her in the checkout counter turned around and said, "Oh honey, you got a MESS on your forehead!", whipped out a Kleenex, wet it with her tongue and wiped off my friend's forehead!
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Many Flags
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 4:10:46 PM
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| WW, you are exactly correct about educating people....and after 20 years of reenacting and almost 35 years of educating children....I suppose I figure it's "vacation time" and I let someone else do the educating UNLESS I get some real good questions and I always educate our own....the new recruits and camp followers who want to learn and can then teach others. We have a few of our men and ladies who do an excellent job with the public....Cpl. Johnson is REALLY good and enjoys it.....so, he usually begins the education of the public, I (or Malcolm!) stand by idly listening and if he needs help with a date or name or place or whatever....he'll look to me and I'll then get involved.....So, I still educate and I didn't mean anything rude by the term "touron".....BUT, I've met a lot of those public who just want to be silly with questions and NOT learn.....Like the family who came up to Malcolm after they had seen that terrible film The Patriot and said...."So, you shoot little boys and burn down churches!!??" ARGHHH....Many Flags |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 7:56:44 PM
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 Oh my gosh! Someone actually said that?!?! I'm afraid that even I would have had a very difficult time controlling my tongue over that one. Wow.
You absolutely do deserve a vacation... or to retire... from educating the at-times-moronic-public, Flags. Thank you for the many years you have faithfully done so! You are fortunate that you have good people to take over and continue your good work, and they are fortunate to have you to fall back on.
I can see that it takes a lot of patience and self-control to be the type of re-enactor who always answers questions patiently and as though it is the first time that particular silly question has ever been asked. Most of you more dedicated ones have it... but there are those who do not.
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 10:46:58 PM
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And another...
My favorite question of all time comes from my own mother. She was trying to ask me how I found out about reenacting, but it came out like this. "So...(long pause)...just how did you find these...(long pause)...people?"
What strikes me the funniest about that one is that I don't have to try very hard to hear my own mother's voice saying those words. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 21 2004 : 10:59:47 PM
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And one final one, from a very funny lady who some of you undoubtedly know, Barbara Bockrath:
Mary, Pat and I were returning from Ft. Freddy (MD) Market Fair to Pittsburgh. We were in full 18th c dress, but needed a potty and an ice cream cone at Breezewood. We heard "Mr. Know-It-All", in sotto voce, inform his own family that we were "Methodists."
And so, to this esteemed list of labels: Amish, pirates, Confederates, Quakers, Polka Band Members, beggars, Yankees, and Church-burning murderers, we can now add........... Methodists. |
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 01:28:53 AM
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I've done more trekking than reenactments, so I haven't heard that many dumb questions, but one time while at the trailhead before beginning a trek, a group of backpackers came buy. I was dressed in white shirt, waistcoat, kneebreeches, a belly box, and leather light infantry helmet, along with my musket in hand. Most of them had confused or scared looks, or pretended not to look at me, but one of the braver women asked "Where's the battle?"
At a 4th of July reenactment years ago, a group of us were camped in a park next to an amusement park. The amusement park closed pretty late, well after we were asleep, and several people walked by the park on their way to their cars. I was sleeping in a lean-to shelter and could here the people walking by not 10 feet away. One comment I remember clearly, I heard a girls voice say "There's people sleeping there!" She had clearly seen us wrapped in or balnkets trying to sleep under our shelters, despite the noise. And a male companion said "No, those are just dummies."
At this same event earlier in the day, we were preparing a 4th of July feast, with a couple turkeys, a large beef roast and other things clearly cooking over several wood fires. An old lady walked up and said "Those aren't real!" Someone said, "They sure are, that's our dinner." But she didn't believe it. Someone else was roasting a rabbit, and when asked what it was he said it was cat. He got some shocked and disgusted looks.
I've had a few Civil War comments at 18th century events, but mostly the kids think we're all "pirates." |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 09:19:03 AM
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Wilderness Woman said: And so, to this esteemed list of labels: Amish, pirates, Confederates, Quakers, Polka Band Members, beggars, Yankees, and Church-burning murderers, we can now add........... Methodists.
Once, during a coffee and gasoline stop on the way to an event, an impecibly dressed and well-coifed young man ask me if I was 'in the lifestyle'. I guess some folks don't know the difference between a skirt and a kilt! So you can add 'Transvestite' to the list...
Your Most Humble Servant,
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Many Flags
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 09:32:05 AM
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Malcolm here, writing under Many Flags mail.
There are many, many good stories out there. But, first, let me assure WW and everyone else, that dedication is certainly the main word for Flags and myself. Dedication goes beyond answering questions of the public. It takes a lot of time and hard work to put together an event, esp. as 1st Sjt. I am basically in charge of the men, the equipment, the tents, etc., etc. However, I still get out and talk to lots of groups. Tomorrow I am speaking to the 7th grade in this school district (2 programs, 250 students) on the 77th and the Seven Years War; Friday I (along with Capt. Campbell and Cpl. Johnston) I will set up a full camp for the dedication of the National Army Museum in Carlisle, PA (8 wedges, kitchen, bell of arms, Officer's tent) and along with Seamus's Augusta unit portray 1758 for hundreds of visitors, Army brass, dignitaries, etc.; Sunday we do the battle of Brandywine and I have 4 new men to outfit and drill before we do two battles for the public. Portraying camp life, the battles, etc., etc. is my dedication to educating the public. I also do a lot of speaking gigs, for example, I'll speak to DAR in Carlisle in November on the Seven Years' War. Back in April, I spoke to another DAR and "portrayed" Paul Revere, reading the famous poem and giving the history of Revere.
So, maybe Many Flags spoke too directly about our problems with the public questioning... and I hope no one took offense at his use of "tourons". Good reenactors DO educate the public, but some of us find our time is taken up with many, many duties in camp and on the field.
I hope that all makes sense. Also, I must tell you that Dr. Uncle Mark (the 21st century member of this schizo personality) is a top educator, and even after 30 years in the business is dedicated to teaching and taking care of children....450 young ones every day. In two weeks time, during Heritage Week, he will don the garb of the 77th and teach 100 third graders about Pennsylvania in 1758, then don the garb of a longhunter and demonstrate colonial cooking for 100 second graders (colonial meals in 30 minutes!!), and then don the Jacobite outfit and tell stories to all 450 students (he is well known in the business as a first rate storyteller for children).
Sorry to go on and on, but I thought that our dedication needed a bit of support. Now, I think Many Flags has another story for you..... Pax Aye!
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Many Flags
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 09:39:40 AM
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Ok, Many Flags here.
Several years ago, Three Tales, nephew Half Breed (read the Chronicles!! and thanks, Kurt, your copies will be in the mail today!), were doing programs at the River Fest in Sunbury, PA. We had a chicken on the spit and a group of "older" ladies walked up and were watching the chicken as it cooked. One said, "that's not a real chicken, is it?" And Tales answered, "No, it's a rubber chicken!"....and as some of its grease proceeded to drip onto the fire, he chided me, "Brother Flags, you've got the demo chicken too close to the fire, it's melting!!"
Of course, we've had the PETA people, vegetarians, and others complain to us about cooking and eating meat over the fire. At Old Bedford Village several years ago we had a strolling minstrel gal (more of a left over from the 70s hippie movement with long dress and sandals) who had styled herself as an 18th century balladeer, walk over to where we were roasting a piece of beef over the fire and completely go off on us because of the carcinogens (spelling??). We had to ask her to go away (politely??) because the public were also getting a bit excited!! All in a day's work!!
Pax Aye.....Many Flags
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 10:58:03 AM
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Malcolm and Flags,
I am so sorry! I truly did not mean to put you both on the defensive! Your dedication needs no support. It shows in all of your posts and in everything you do. My comments were thoughtless and I do apologize.
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 11:42:53 AM
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| WW...no, no....offense was NOT taken!! No need to apologize. I know that reenactors, esp. old ones like Malcolm and I, sometimes do not take the time that we once did with public because of other responsibilites and having answered every question many times....But, it is always good to be reminded that one of our responsibilities is opening the public eyes. I have enjoyed this thread immensely and keep thinking of more comments/incidents which make me (and Malcolm and Dr. Uncle Mark) smile......Pax Aye! M. Flags |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 12:32:39 PM
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Then post 'em!
Btw, Sgt. Munro... that one left me positively speechless! |
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Posted - September 22 2004 : 3:22:53 PM
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i've had a few good/unexpected ones as well...
seems when you are doing a period hike, and you are dressed pretty much as magua, and encounter a modern hiker with gore-tex everything, internal frame pack, monster mudder boots, baseball hat,sun glasses,hydration system and ski-poles, the first question is usualy "what are you hunting?"...
although often they just get off the trail, rub their eyes and stare as you pass...
also somthing about a breechclout and leggings that white teens and tween girls get turned on by...
then there are the spectators who don't know which war you are dealing, with, and the further south you go, history outside of 'the wo-ah' did not exist...
cooking is always good for a few, and a duck,rabbit or cornish game hens {redily availible and obviously not chicken} are good for a few 'we're cooking spotted owl - it's so much more tender then heron'...
especialy during meals, spectators and reenactors alike seem spooked coming into native camp... and a kid you were bouncing on your knee before you painted is cowering behind their mother after...
had some friends who were filling up their tank, while dressed as confederates - 'we're militant amish ma'am'....
resupplying in the wal*mart at ticonderoga while fully dressed/painted hardly gets stares anymore - 'nother reenactment,huh?'..
a rondevous tape of silly songs exists... 'is that a real fire' and 'looking for jim' sum it up pretty well... |
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