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Hawkwind
Lost in the Wilderness
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Posted - September 15 2004 : 12:37:56 PM
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Hello All
I was wondering, in the attack on the British colum (following the evacuation from the fort), did the Indians kill all the redcoats?
I origianly thought they did, but playing it on the pc just now i got a much better veiw of the battle, at the bit where Hawkeye saves cora, you can see the colur is taken by a french fellow, yet it looks like MOST of the Indians have gone, and there is still quite a few redcoats fighting.
So, my question is, was the entire group destroyed, or did the idians just kill as many as they could then left.
Thnakyou Greatly for any help
Regards
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Jacy
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Posted - September 16 2004 : 03:25:57 AM
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Hi Alex,
I am guessing that's what happened - the Huron leaving after killing as many as they could. American history at school taught me that for Native Americans there was more honour in making sure you were left un-hurt so that you could return and fight again. So there would not be really any point in them staying if they had done the job - just to kill a few more and perhaps lose a few more of their own men.
Just an opinion but hope it helps.
Jacy ;) |
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alikws
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Posted - September 16 2004 : 3:05:07 PM
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in the movie, this is one of the bigger breaks with reality, the mark baker interview has some on this... in the massacre vally scene, it provided an opertunity for hawkeye to escape from the english, so what happened to the other soldiers was unimportant to the plot...
in history, the attack was initiated by some late ariving abnakis who were annoyed with the loss of an opertunity for captives,plunder &c, the english had their arms, but limited powder &c... and most were out of the fort... english death toll was light, around 35 killed, and the attack was stopped with the assistance of the french... the native secondary death toll was higher, because one of the places attacked was the hospital, and smallpox infected items were brought home... |
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Jacy
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Posted - September 17 2004 : 03:20:12 AM
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Hi Alikws,
how good are you knowing all that! I think you should totally disregard my little attempt at knowing stuff Alex and go with the actual history. I will get back in my box!
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Hawkwind
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Posted - September 17 2004 : 5:22:29 PM
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Jacy,Alikws
Thankyou for the replys, BOTH replys clear up everything i was wondering about how many survived (in the film and in real life).
Although, i confess, i do have a hundread other question of a similar vein.
Thanks again both of you
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richfed
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alikws
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Posted - September 20 2004 : 4:15:27 PM
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how i'd known somthing like that - i'm one of those abenakis... |
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