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Al Amos
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 Posted - August 17 2004 : 7:16:10 PM
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Hello!
I'm needing a bit of help, please.
As many of you know I helped create a French & Indian War from HPS, and I continue to create maps and scenarios for said computer game.
I am currently attempting to collect word lists from the various tribal languages. I'll be using these lists to create ficticious place names to use for map tags, and would like real names to use for leaders and the word for warriors.
Any help in assisting me to add more 'flavor' to my work is greatly appreciated. 
BTW, I'd be happy to post my complied list if the readership would be interested. 
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Lady of Glencairn
Colonial Settler
South Africa
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Posted - August 20 2004 : 1:41:10 PM
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Hi!
Although I cannot help you out, I would really like to see the completed list once youve finished.
Thanks! And Good Luck! |
Lady of Glencairn
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Bookworm
Colonial Militia
USA
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Posted - August 21 2004 : 1:21:59 PM
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| The nice folks at Wennawoods Publishing (http://www.wennawoods.com) have a number of books for sale on Indian languages. MOst of them are reprints of older works and pretty expensive, but "A Handbook of the Delaware Indian Language" is only $16.95 (Paperback). Also, if you go to the website, you'll see, among the topics listed along the left of the page, "Historical Essays." One of these is on the Delaware language, and its author, Scott Wenning (author of the book just mentioned) discusses some of the words commonly used in place names. The books on Indian villages and Indian chiefs might also be helpful. Interlibrary loan, maybe? Anyway, good luck! |
Bookworm
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Jacy
Colonial Settler
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Posted - August 23 2004 : 04:43:29 AM
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Hi,
sounds an interesting one!
I found my username Jacy on a webs-ite for Native American names, it means moon. Let me know if you would like the link and I'll forward it on.
Hope I can help!
Jacy :) |
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42ndNCO
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Posted - August 23 2004 : 3:18:40 PM
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Al Amos,
An intriguing project! Don't forget French and Natives weren't the only ones with foreign speech. Colonial American English had a distinct vocabulary from today. Also to consider are Gaelic, Broad Scots, German and Dutch.
For the English, I'd recommend "THe Dictionary of COlonial American Speech". (Will have to get back to you with the ISDN#)
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Al Amos
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Redbird
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Posted - August 27 2004 : 3:51:38 PM
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I'm new to the site, so hope I'm posting this correctly... Allan W. Eckert(Wilderness Empire)
has several excellent books out that cover this time period. His works are in the form of historical narratives: but are quite detailed and well researched. He uses lots of Indian names of the historical participants (and lists the names in the glossaries), so that might be helpful for you? I was also wondering what anyone else thought of this author, and whether it seems likely Michael Mann & co consulted his work? Good luck with your project!
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Al Amos
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Al Amos
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lonewolf
Colonial Settler
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Posted - November 14 2004 : 1:06:23 PM
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My Shawnee people on the Allegheny River were speaking a combination of Algonkin mixed with Welsh. This even before the first white settlers came to the Ohio-Allegheny Valleys in the early 1700's. We captured white women and children (we killed the men) at the Falls of the Spaylaywathepi (Ohio River) at what is now Louisville, Kentucky. They came here with a Prince Madoc in the year 1170.
This in about the year 1350, long before Columbus managed to get himself lost at sea.
Yes, the "Yengese" (English) of the 1700's were speaking a form of English much different than they we speak today. |
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lonewolf
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Posted - November 16 2004 : 10:29:58 PM
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Hi Redbird,
Allan Eckert's books are excellent. I've read them all. Found a few of my white relatives from the 1700's in them. Allan does quite a bit of research.
The narrative form makes you feel as though you are living the history.
He is now working on a book about the westward expansion after the early 1800's. I am looking forward to it. |
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