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Originally posted by Scott Bubar

Mylissa, I believe Munro sent Hawkeye as a messenger to Fort Edwards to let General Webb know what was happening at William Henry and to see when and if Webb was coming to their relief.

Hawkeye was captured on the way back, and Montcalm turned him over to Munro--ostensibly as a gesture of goodwill, but actually as a way of rubbing in the fact that he (Montcalm) was in control of the situation.

Hawkeye was led back to the Fort in the custody of the French officer, not lead away.

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Originally posted by CT•Ranger

It's generally believed that the word sagamore or sagamo is a northern Algonquian dialectical variant of the southern Algonquian sachem. Both words generally mean the same thing, leader, chief, etc. What questions do you have about the Wampanoag, I know a little about their history, as well as the New England Algonquian.

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Originally posted by CapeCodGirl

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Originally posted by Scott Bubar

Mylissa, I believe Munro sent Hawkeye as a messenger to Fort Edwards to let General Webb know what was happening at William Henry and to see when and if Webb was coming to their relief.

Hawkeye was captured on the way back, and Montcalm turned him over to Munro--ostensibly as a gesture of goodwill, but actually as a way of rubbing in the fact that he (Montcalm) was in control of the situation.

Hawkeye was led back to the Fort in the custody of the French officer, not lead away.

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Thankyou!!! I must have misread the part in the book. Funny, I don't remember Cooper explaining it as well as you did lol. I must have missed it~ I will go back and re-read...

Thankyou!

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"I am sorry to see, sir, that the messenger I so warmly
recommended has returned in custody of the French! I hope
there is no reason to distrust his fidelity?"

"The fidelity of 'The Long Rifle' is well known to me,"
returned Munro, "and is above suspicion; though his usual
good fortune seems, at last, to have failed. Montcalm has
got him, and with the accursed politeness of his nation, he
has sent him in with a doleful tale, of 'knowing how I
valued the fellow, he could not think of retaining him.' A
Jesuitical way that, Major Duncan Heyward, of telling a man
of his misfortunes!"

"But the general and his succor?"

"Did ye look to the south as ye entered, and could ye not
see them?" said the old soldier, laughing bitterly.

"Hoot! hoot! you're an impatient boy, sir, and cannot give
the gentlemen leisure for their march!"

"They are coming, then? The scout has said as much?"

"When? and by what path? for the dunce has omitted to tell
me this. There is a letter, it would seem, too; and that is
the only agreeable part of the matter. For the customary
attentions of your Marquis of Montcalm -- I warrant me,
Duncan, that he of Lothian would buy a dozen such
marquisates -- but if the news of the letter were bad, the
gentility of this French monsieur would certainly compel him
to let us know it."

"He keeps the letter, then, while he releases the
messenger?"

"Ay, that does he, and all for the sake of what you call
your 'bonhommie' I would venture, if the truth was known,
the fellow's grandfather taught the noble science of
dancing."

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Originally posted by Kurt

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Originally posted by CapeCodGirl

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Originally posted by Scott Bubar

Mylissa, I believe Munro sent Hawkeye as a messenger to Fort Edwards to let General Webb know what was happening at William Henry and to see when and if Webb was coming to their relief.

Hawkeye was captured on the way back, and Montcalm turned him over to Munro--ostensibly as a gesture of goodwill, but actually as a way of rubbing in the fact that he (Montcalm) was in control of the situation.

Hawkeye was led back to the Fort in the custody of the French officer, not lead away.

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Thankyou!!! I must have misread the part in the book. Funny, I don't remember Cooper explaining it as well as you did lol. I must have missed it~ I will go back and re-read...

Thankyou!

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I had forgotten the conversation between Duncan and Monroe:

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"I am sorry to see, sir, that the messenger I so warmly
recommended has returned in custody of the French! I hope
there is no reason to distrust his fidelity?"

"The fidelity of 'The Long Rifle' is well known to me,"
returned Munro, "and is above suspicion; though his usual
good fortune seems, at last, to have failed. Montcalm has
got him, and with the accursed politeness of his nation, he
has sent him in with a doleful tale, of 'knowing how I
valued the fellow, he could not think of retaining him.' A
Jesuitical way that, Major Duncan Heyward, of telling a man
of his misfortunes!"

"But the general and his succor?"

"Did ye look to the south as ye entered, and could ye not
see them?" said the old soldier, laughing bitterly.

"Hoot! hoot! you're an impatient boy, sir, and cannot give
the gentlemen leisure for their march!"

"They are coming, then? The scout has said as much?"

"When? and by what path? for the dunce has omitted to tell
me this. There is a letter, it would seem, too; and that is
the only agreeable part of the matter. For the customary
attentions of your Marquis of Montcalm -- I warrant me,
Duncan, that he of Lothian would buy a dozen such
marquisates -- but if the news of the letter were bad, the
gentility of this French monsieur would certainly compel him
to let us know it."

"He keeps the letter, then, while he releases the
messenger?"

"Ay, that does he, and all for the sake of what you call
your 'bonhommie' I would venture, if the truth was known,
the fellow's grandfather taught the noble science of
dancing."

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Montcalm gloats over the letter presently. (Project Gutenberg etexts make looking quicker! )

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Originally posted by CT•Ranger

Here is a very brief historical outline. The Wampanoag ("eastern people") were a confederacy of several groups or bands in what is today southeastern Massachusetts state, between the eastern shore of Narragansett Bay in Rhode Island to the western end of Cape Cod, and the islands of Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket. This was the group of Indians/Natives which the 1620 Mayflower passangers encountered when they settled Plymouth. The Wampanoag and English of Plymouth Colony enjoyed peaceful relations for over 50 years until war broke out between "King Philip" or Metacom of the Wampanoag, and the English colonist of Plymouth, Massachusetts and Connecticut colonies in 1675. Before King Philip's war 1675-6, the Wampanoag numbered around 1,000, after the war around 400 survived. Today there are roughly 3,000 Wampanoag.

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Originally posted by susquesus

If you liked Cooper's style and are interested in Metacom and King Philip's war you should read "The Wept of Wish-ton-wish". It's a Cooper story about the war and how it affected colonial settlers. It's also packed with historical tidbits and tons of action.

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Originally posted by Bookworm

Hi CapeCodGirl,

I recently read a nonfiction book about King Philip's War, "The Red King's Rebellion" by Russell Bourn........ I hope this helps, and wasn't more information than you wanted.

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