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susquesus
Mad Hermit of the North Woods
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 Posted - December 17 2003 : 8:18:11 PM
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If Michael Mann were to film his adaptation of "Deerslayer" who would you cast in the lead roles? Keep in mind Hawkeye and Chingachgook are young men, middle 20's. It's 1745-ish. Your leads include:
Deerslayer
Chingachgook
Hurry Harry
Thomas Hutter
Hetty Hutter
Judith Hutter
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Ellie
Pioneer
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Colonial Militia
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 Posted - December 18 2003 : 5:12:21 PM
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I've never read these books,perhaps I should. I do recall an animated version that used to be shown around Thanksgiving time in my youth that mirrored LOTM. |
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Wilderness Woman
Watcher of the Wood
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Posted - December 18 2003 : 6:16:14 PM
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Yes, Ellie, I can see Orlando Bloom as a younger Hawkeye! I am also thinking of another actor... whose name I cannot think of... He goes by Jim or James... starts with "S" I think. Drat! I hate getting old!
But... I'm confused, Susquesus. (Another sign of old age.) Isn't Chingachgook older than Hawkeye, by about 15-20 years or so? I haven't read any of the books, but going by the movie, I thought he was an older father-figure? |
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susquesus
Mad Hermit of the North Woods
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Posted - December 18 2003 : 7:53:41 PM
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| That is one of the big differences between the novels and film Wilderness Woman. In the novels, Chingachgook and Hawkeye are more like brothers, same age more or less. Uncas is Chingachgooks son with Hawkeye as an uncle figure. If you read one more make it "Deerslayer". It is the last written, though chronologically it is the first story. It is subtitled, "The First Warpath", and tells the story of Hawkeye and Chingachgooks' first adventure. Hawkeye attains "Killdeer", kills his first mingo, encounters his first love interest, in addition we meet Chingachgooks' wife (a Delaware fox, named Wah-ta Wah). A lot of heavy stuff happens here. And as it was the last written it is also the most well-written, the speech isn't quite as "Olde" as in "Pioneers" or "LOTM", the words just flow better. |
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Kurt
Mohicanite
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Posted - December 18 2003 : 9:38:44 PM
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| A study of the age of Natty Bumppo in the five novels can be found at http://www.mohicanpress.com/mo06032.html It takes a much more careful reader than me to remember the hints at ages (or maybe I get distracted by the scenery). In the books Natty's foster father is grandfather Uncas (as opposed to Chingachgook's son Uncas (Uncas being a famous Mohican chief's name in historical fact)). Natty and Chingachgook learn to hunt together growing up in the Delaware camps. They scout for the Royal Americans together. In the books they are similar ages. |
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Kurt
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Posted - December 19 2003 : 07:05:21 AM
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| As I was looking at a sad but hopefull quotation in The Deerslayer, it struck me that the people who build movies view books as starting points. If you take the action of The Last Of The Mohicans and splice in the hunting and the love interest in The Deerslayer, you get one heck of a film! A movie about a hero who thinks too much probably doesn't sell. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - December 19 2003 : 08:18:17 AM
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| Ahhhh... OK. Now I see. Thanks, guys! |
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Kurt
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Posted - December 20 2003 : 3:49:48 PM
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Hugh! Speaking of getting lost in the scenery, I was reading The Deerslayer since I'm triple pager duty 1700 Friday till 0800 Monday and ran into the statement by the newly minted Hawkeye:
"Big Sarpent - so called for his wisdom and cunning, Uncas is his
ra'al name -all his family being called Uncas until they get a
title that has been 'arned by deeds."
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What if.....Michael Mann's "Deerslayer"
