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richfed
Sachem
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 Posted - December 14 2003 : 08:15:19 AM
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Poll Question:
The news this morning is astoundingly good! If true, one of the most vicious dictators of our time, along with some henchmen, is now in the custody of the United States! Question: What effect will this have on the current situation in Iraq? [Many possibilities, but choose the best answer]
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 08:25:26 AM
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This is great news, Sachem. I feel that with the 'Kingpin' out of the way, the Iraqi people will be able to sleep safe at night. You should notice a sharp decrease in those 'contract' terror jobs, now that one of the income sources has been taken off-line. The only question remains, now that Saddam is in custody, the economy is on the mend, what will democrats have to blame President Bush for? Hmmmm, I guess that the fringe elements in society will whine about not letting some of the rebuilding contracts go to France, Germany or Russia (If they want some of the rewards, perhaps they should step up to do some of the 'heavy lifting'). If that fails, I guess they can always blame him for the sun rising in the east...
Oh well, that aside, I raise my bumper in toast to the valiant warriors of Task Force-21, for a job well done in bringing that animal to justice!!!!
Your Most Humble Servant,
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Kurt
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 08:49:04 AM
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God bless out soldiers and sailors.
Nice gratuitous spitting on Democrats among others, Sargeant! McCathyism lives!
How many madrassas were shut down?
How many students of said madrassas were un-brainwashed? |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 09:25:14 AM
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Nice gratuitous spitting on Democrats among others, Sargeant! McCathyism lives!
Only where it is deserved, my friend, only when deserved. I am only calling to task those who have been chanting the same mantra "Where's Hussein? There can't be victory without him being captured." Just look no further than the democratic leaders of the house and senate (Gephardt and Daschelle) for those quotable quotes...
As to the McCarthyism crack, well if you checked up on those records at the former KGB, you will see that the former senator was pretty spot-on as to who was 'on the payroll'. The Russians are meticulous record keepers, especially when dealing with 'accounts payable'. Truth being now known, I'll take that as a compliment.
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How many madrassas were shut down? How many students of said madrassas were un-brainwashed?
In due time, my friend, in due time. This capture sends the message to the "Feta-Cheese Saddam" and imported rent-a-criminals, that being if we can get to Saddam, none of you are safe.
Just some more thoughts on the subject...
Your Most Humble Servant,
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susquesus
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 3:01:41 PM
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I'm sure that all Americans, Republican and Democrat, are thrilled with the capture of Hussein. The photos on CNN.com are just what we've been waiting for, bearded, dirty, captured, humiliated(Spread 'em!)- mission accomplished.
As to Bush- I sincerely doubt this will change many opinions on his performance. It will increase the adamance of his supporters, though I doubt it will decrease the vehemence of his detractors. The lack of confidence in the Presidents abilities have little to do with Hussein, there are a multitude of issues leading to his slipped job approval rating. It was the brave men and women in our military, whose skill and knowledge have never been in doubt, that brought Saddam in, not some grand stroke of genius by the C in C. It is our troops and our veterans that make America #1, not our President who ditched out of his own military service. I would find it much easier to heap praise on the President if he was someone like John McCain who has served our country with honor. God Bless America and heartfelt thanks to our brave men and women in uniform. |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 4:00:03 PM
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I'm sure that all Americans, Republican and Democrat, are thrilled with the capture of Hussein.
I would like to believe that this will help bring a little needed boost to those in doubt. I do have to admit, I enjoyed watching Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw this morning, I haven't seen those two look that depressed since the Presidential Election of 2000.
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As to Bush- I sincerely doubt this will change many opinions on his performance...there are a multitude of issues leading to his slipped job approval rating.
Yeah, I guess with things like an 8+% GDP (The highest in almost 20 years, thanks to the tax cut kicking in FY03), an increase in prescription Medicare benefits, a definable national and foreign policy and inspirational leadership (as the troops clearly show) as CINC, there are still some folks who would complain about "free sex and beer" also.
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It was the brave men and women in our military, whose skill and knowledge have never been in doubt, that brought Saddam in, not some grand stroke of genius by the C in C. It is our troops and our veterans that make America #1, not our President who ditched out of his own military service.
The first part, you are very right, as to the second, well the Air Force Reserve is still a DOD component the last time I checked. Unless, of course the U.S. Air Force is willing to forge documents, flight records and give a "civilian" access to an Air Force flight suit and allow the same to pilot an F-102 Delta Dagger, not to mention allow photographic evidence of the same.
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I would find it much easier to heap praise on the President if he was someone like John McCain who has served our country with honor.
Yeah, but there are quite a few other guests of the infamous Hanoi Hilton (The NVA POW camp for U.S. military pilots), who question the treatment of "The Admirials Son", and how it differed from there own.
The above all aside, this is truly a great day for our country, and once again a heartfelt thanks to our warriors for an early Christmas present!
Your Most Humble Servant,
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susquesus
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 4:18:11 PM
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| So he didn't ditch out of National Guard duty in 1972-73? |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 4:25:31 PM
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Well, as someone who had done a stint in the national guard (PA, 28th Infantry), after active duty, I can tell you that if you miss a meeting, you are AWOL, if you fail to make it up, you go to jail. It is that simple. Where are the arrest/detainment records? If he failed to make it up, there would have been consequences, no matter whose kid he was.
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susquesus
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 Posted - December 14 2003 : 4:29:39 PM
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I'm not trying to poo-poo the greatness of Hussein's capture- just trying to give credit where credit is due. I did like Bush's speech, one of the finer we've heard. I am a bit disappointed that there wasn't more broadcast TV coverage of the event. I really miss cable TV right now. |
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CT•Ranger
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 4:57:16 PM
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Thought some of you might be interested to read the view of one our men over there right now. I've taken the liberty of copying this off another trekking/reenacting messageboard. Actually it's how I first found out about Saddam's capture, was reading this before I turned on the tv this morning. Of course the news media was really playing down the celebration in Iraq.
"Baghdad sounds like the 4th of July. They started firing all over town about 1300 local time and have kept it up now 3 hours. All this to celebrate the capture of Saddam last night. We all gathered around the radio to listen to the press conference and we all felt like firing off a few rounds when L Paul Bremer said "we got him". Minutes after that announcement the firing intensified for a time. We've heard rounds bounce off the roof and fall through the tree branches. We all understand how they feel. So if any of you are going to be in the woods or at a range today, touch off a celebratory round for me please." |
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securemann
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 5:12:11 PM
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I was really surprised that Hussein gave up without a fight.For someone who was labeled a madman,he did nothing that he was supposed to do.When our troops were closing in on him in Iraq,he was supposed to unleash all those WMD's and fight to the end.No go.Then they said that when he is cornered,he will fight to the death or kill himself.No go.I realize this fellow is a tyrant but there has been many tyrants throughout the years that we never bothered.Anyway,people need to remember why we are fighting and the main reason is not Hussein.It's the other fellow who planned 9/11 and attacked our homeland.Saddam probably approved but didn't have direct involvement.Now the Saudi's did and we do nothing.Oh,the other fellow is Osama.Now when they catch him,that will be the main enemy and cause for celebration.Saddam's a good catch but to be consistent,we should have gone into every country throughout the years that had tyrants and do the same thing.
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 5:51:03 PM
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I'm not trying to poo-poo the greatness of Hussein's capture- just trying to give credit where credit is due. I did like Bush's speech, one of the finer we've heard.
I agree with you 100%, you are right on the mark. I may not always agree with you, but I do find your posts thought provoking and I do enjoy debating with you. You are one cool guy.
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was really surprised that Hussein gave up without a fight.For someone who was labeled a madman,he did nothing that he was supposed to do.
Funny thing about people like him, they usually do fail to make a stand. He is no differnt than some of the felons I have arrested in my career. You see, a rapist or a child molester may be an unstopable demon to a defensless woman or child, but these demons generally become quite timid when confronted by armed and righteous men.
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When our troops were closing in on him in Iraq,he was supposed to unleash all those WMD's and fight to the end.No go.
Right again, you see according to the interviews with some of his senior generals, he did give the order, they just chose not to obey it. These men knew that such an action was madness, and they were frightened and unsure of our response.
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Anyway,people need to remember why we are fighting and the main reason is not Hussein.It's the other fellow who planned 9/11 and attacked our homeland.Saddam probably approved but didn't have direct involvement.
The facts are that his involvement was both financial, and providing a safehaven for their training and prep work, that is good enough for me.
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Now the Saudi's did and we do nothing.Oh,the other fellow is Osama.Now when they catch him,that will be the main enemy and cause for celebration.
I have a feeling that it is only a matter of time before we clear up all accounts. These people will pay also, but to quote Abraham Lincoln "One war at a time".
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Saddam's a good catch but to be consistent,we should have gone into every country throughout the years that had tyrants and do the same thing.
I'm not saying we are without sin, but we are certainly light years ahead of anyone else on fixing the problem.
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 6:06:41 PM
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P.S.- A personal story about being AWOL from the National Guard. During the Blizzard of '94 (Seamus remembers this one), I was on patrol as a police officer, and unable to leave work due to the county declaring an emergency. I was also a military policeman with the 28th Infantry of the Pennsylvania National Guard at that time. I was already missing my drill weekend, due to the emergency, when the governor called up the national guard for the statewide emergency. Now, I was unable to leave my civilian police job, due to an emergency at the county level, to answer the statewide call up. I was listed as AWOL, for not only my two day drill weekend, but for the week long call up of the 28th Military Police. I had to make all of those days up (10 total) or be charged with desertion, did the governor care that I was busy in civil defense somewhere else, no, but I did make those days up. I still have a record of being AWOL, and will for the rest of my life, but not desertion, that is the difference.
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Serjeant-Major Duncan Munro
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securemann
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 9:37:33 PM
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| Saddam gave the order to use WMD's and his generals did not follow through because of fear of how we would respond.How could this be if no weapons were found? They only had a couple of firecrackers to use.The reason why they did not respond is because they had no WMD's.Unless they hid them in record time as we were approaching but that seems impossible. |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 08:18:20 AM
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Saddam gave the order to use WMD's and his generals did not follow through because of fear of how we would respond.How could this be if no weapons were found?
Yes, that is what the Iraqi officers told our people who were on the ground over there.
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They only had a couple of firecrackers to use.
I wonder if you would tell that to my old GW1 buddy in the 220th MP BDE, when he gets back. I'm sure the comrades of his that were wounded would disagree with you.
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The reason why they did not respond is because they had no WMD's.
I go back to my original statement, that being testimony from folks in-country.
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Unless they hid them in record time as we were approaching but that seems impossible.
Not at all impossible, remember the size of territory we have to search. The game is not over yet, remember my past post (In another thread here in the Lion's Den) about patience and the temptation to take the 'Drive Through Window' view?
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 10:48:26 AM
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| I didn't mean any disrespect to the soldiers who were wounded by using the term firecrackers.What I meant was even though the Iraqi's had some weapons,they had nothing compared to what we were told by the government in regards to weapons.But this remains to be seen. |
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