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Cyndie
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 Posted - November 27 2003 : 01:14:12 AM
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Clabert and I just got home from seeing The Missing. Are we the only ones who didn't know that Eric was in this movie??? We kept looking at this ugly, scar faced, very bad bruho (spelling?) who looked vaguely familiar and didn't figure out until we saw the credits that it was ES himself!!! Guess we should have looked closer at the poster outside cuz it said it right there. Wow. What a part! How do they do that???? No pretty boy this time! Pretty decent movie too. Personally - I wish they would have let you into the characters a bit more... Many, many running horses, lots of killin', and some mystical stuff too. Not my new favorite but not bad!
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Chris
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Posted - November 27 2003 : 2:31:37 PM
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Hi Cyndie,
I knew Eric was in it, and I've been waiting somewhat impatiently for it to come out. I hope to go this weekend. It's getting mixed reviews. I think the lack of characterization is a problem with a lot of the reviewers. I'm anxious to see for myself. Thanks for posting.
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CT•Ranger
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Posted - November 29 2003 : 7:13:12 PM
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| I saw "The Missing" over the weekend. Not too bad, I liked it. Eric sure was mean and ugly in this one, the kind of villian you really want to see die in the end, but not enough character development to explain why he was mean and ugly. Another surprise appearance was Val Kilmer as the cavalry lieutenant. Everything I had seen about this movie previously only mentioned Tommy Lee Jones and Kate Blanchett. |
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Cyndie
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 Posted - November 29 2003 : 7:55:35 PM
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We were surprised to see Val also. I am a big fan of his (but I have to see I like him a little thinner! hee hee) |
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Cyndie
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Posted - November 29 2003 : 7:57:54 PM
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| I meant to say "I have to say"!!! |
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Chris
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Posted - November 29 2003 : 11:40:46 PM
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I saw The Missing this afternoon. It was good, but not excellent. Eric sure played one ugly dude!! About the only thing I recognized was his voice. I didn't recognize Val Kilmer. I may have to see it again to check him out.
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Ro
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Posted - December 14 2003 : 4:38:38 PM
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| I saw The Missing last night, I think it will be one of those you either love it or hate it movies. It could use some help in the editing department, a lot of scenes went on too long and seem to drag on forever. Jay Tavare did an excellent job. |
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Gadget Girl
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 11:18:11 AM
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Saw The Missing this weekend. It was worth watching, but I left feeling some things could have been done better. Normally, I LOVE Tommy Lee Jones, but he disappointed me in this. I never quite understood him...too vague! Eric I thought was GREAT! The most believable character in the movie. He was SO BIG! He loomed over most of the characters and that made him appear that much more menacing. MAN...did they make his face UGLY! Rutty, gray complexion, horrible teeth and gums. You all are right about character development. The movie left you too much room to speculate about motivations, That should have been done better. All that said...go see it just to see Eric's performance - the best in the movie for my money!
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Two Kettles
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 2:00:12 PM
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If you found THE MISSING interesting, but confusing regarding some motivations, etc., and ultimately relatively unsatisfying, read Eidson's novel ("The Last Ride"). Although it's hardly a classic, I felt the characters were much better defined, motivations clearer, and I especially felt the mystical/religious aspects were much better handled. I'm a little surprised that Eidson was a producer on THE MISSING, and has been quite kind to it in interviews, etc. Maybe he's hoping that by staying positive he can get a better movie made from "St. Agnes' Stand".
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Dillon1836
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Ro
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 6:45:33 PM
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| Thanks Two Kettles, I'm sure the book is in my city library. I am curious to see how the book compares to the movie. I did feel something was 'missing' when I left the theater, besides my 8 dollars ;=D |
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Two Kettles
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 10:35:52 PM
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Wade,
While you're absolutely right that it's "two different movies, two different plots", what I was getting at is that, according to most reports, Howard walked out on THE ALAMO not because of the money, but because he wanted to make an R-rated, dark, complex movie and Disney wanted a PG-13, more "family friendly" (read higher Box Office) story. Presumably, THE MISSING is the kind of movie Howard was looking to make. Some of the criticisms of the first previews of THE ALAMO, which led to its being pushed back to next April, were that it was unfocused, lacking in depth in its characterizations, and didn't involve the audience emotionally. These same criticisms are being levelled at THE MISSING. If THE ALAMO is able to overcome these problems, it'll almost certainly be due to Hancock's efforts and, arguably, because he moved it well beyond Howard's preparations. And, IMHO, it'll be because Hancock, not Howard, directed THE ALAMO.
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Cyndie
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Posted - December 15 2003 : 11:58:56 PM
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| I know that (aside from what kind of director Alamo proves him to be) Clabert said John Lee seemed to be a pretty nice fellow. I will attempt sometime in the future to scan a couple of pictures of the two of them on the last day of filming. |
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Kurt
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Posted - December 16 2003 : 07:07:18 AM
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Just saw a Associated Press story about The Missing:
Most adult Apaches in the audiences have said they could understand every word of the Chiricahua dialect - and the children suddenly wished they could, too.
It was the first film that any of them could remember in which Apache was spoken well enough on screen to be understood. Usually, Westerns were dubbed in Navajo, a related language, said supporting actor Steve Reevis, a Montana Blackfoot who has worked several films but never spoke Apache before "The Missing."
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