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susquesus
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 Posted - September 18 2003 : 01:34:46 AM
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Anyone seen "Black Robe"? It's got beautiful landscapes and focuses on some key LOTM subject matter: the French in north america, Huron and Algonquin tribes, life in the wilderness. It focuses on a Jesuit missionary trying to convert Canadian natives. It's beautifully done, much better than many movies that focus on early american life.
Another film to check out would be "The Mission" starring Robert DeNiro and Jeremy Irons. It takes place in south america in the 1700's. DeNiro is a slave trader that reforms and helps Irons(another Jesuit missionary trying to convert natives) shield a tribe from the forces of colonialism.
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Seamus
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Posted - September 18 2003 : 05:23:06 AM
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| Yep.........seen 'em both.....have 'em on tape...they are on my list of 'training films', for sure. |
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richfed
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Posted - September 18 2003 : 06:27:48 AM
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Me, too! "The Mission," I think, is one of the best ever films - superb soundtrack. DeNiro at his best!
I like "Black Robe," but it's a little too dark & dreary for me to rank it as a favorite movie. Well done, to be sure, but ... |
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Tim Cordell
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CT•Ranger
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Posted - September 18 2003 : 7:13:50 PM
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I've seen "The Mission" on tv and liked it.
I've also seen "Black Robe," but was not impressed. In the words of a friend: "It's just a bunch of Indians having sex and getting shot in the head." And as Rich said, "too dark & dreary." |
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susquesus
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Posted - September 18 2003 : 7:37:51 PM
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| Yeah, Black Robe definitely falls short on the "romance" element found in LOTM and a lot of other frontier films. I liked that it was dark, sort of gave me an idea of the harsh, stark realities of life at the time. It may not be upbeat or have a happy ending but such is life. |
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - September 18 2003 : 11:24:27 PM
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| I keep DVD's of LOTM and The Patriot by the TV at all times. and watch them a lot. But when I want to see a movie that was done right, I pop in my tape of Black Robe. Great movie! I loved that matchlock. And the scenes at Quebec, and the Iroquois village. |
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Two Kettles
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Posted - September 19 2003 : 12:27:56 AM
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One thing I love about THE MISSION is that, IMHO, it's not only set in the 18th century, it's "about" the 18th century. The rise of global empires, the enslavement of indiginous peoples, the Catholic Church at its best and worst, the suppression of the Jesuits, all of these are very 18th century issues. There are two very interesting points that are in Robert Bolt's novelization of his original screenplay but didn't make it into the movie:
The priest played by Jeremy Irons is Irish. He was educated illegally and surreptitiously in a hedge school, and then fled to France to continue his education;
The nobleman pushing for the destruction of the Jesuit missions was a Mason, and determined to do all that he could to hurt and embarass the Catholic Church.
But even with these elements missing, the movie was one of the best representations of the period ever put on film.
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Tim Cordell
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Posted - September 19 2003 : 12:39:36 PM
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| You must stand in heart of the Adirondack forest in November... A feeling of lonliness and depression takes hold. The movie Blackrobe presented similar moments. Please read the book and then view the film again. Reenactors are constantly in persuit of elusive emotional experiences that are TRUE to past time periods. I found the book and the film very helpful in that respect. Warmest regards, |
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Tim Cordell
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Posted - September 19 2003 : 12:48:03 PM
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| Make that loneliness....Spell check on the fritz. |
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Black Robe/The Mission-great films about Jesuits
