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OK, now that I'm almost a longhunter myself - yippeeee!!!! - I've started the process of "completing" my outfit. I can see how that can be a never-ending process! I browsed some of the on-line sources that I could find yesterday, but I'm interested in what you gus & gals may suggest.

Obviously, I need powder & more shot, but I can get those locally. I know where my tomahawk is going to come from and I'm going to buy one of Clabert's fishing kits. What are the other essentials?

I know I want a canteen, hunting knife, some sort of head gear ...

Opinions & recommendations needed - of sources & items. Mid-18th century, naturally!
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Blue Heron Mercantile is an excellent source of supplies:

http://www.blueheronmercantile.com/

a brass or copper kettle is good to have for cooking in, goosebay workshop's iron band trade kettle is very close to archaeological examples I've handled:

http://www.goosebayworkshops.com/hearthcook.htm#trade
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Will Shaw and Son is a good source of leather flasks or canteens:

http://www.geocities.com/trekkertim/WillShaw.html

Also, if you haven't already, I'd suggest checking the links page at historicaltrekking.com and the messageboard is a good source of information as well:

http://www.historicaltrekking.com/links.shtml

http://www.historicaltrekking.com/mb/
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I've compiled a list of sites I visit (some more than others). I hope it comes out below, but if not... I'll e-mail you the list (I have it in a Word doc) and maybe you can find a way to post it somewhere.

CT recommended HistoricalTrekking.com above... that's a good site to visit. I hang out on Jason's (owner) message board a lot and Fitz posts there a lot as well.

I also find a lot of equipment on Ebay. Before buying on Ebay though, make sure you know what you're looking for and whether or not it's period authentic or not. For example: if you're looking for a shirt... make sure the shirt is made of the appropriate material and has correct buttons. You may even want to make sure it's hand stitched and not done on a modern machine. Also make sure you're not getting something made of cheap materials. A lot of stuff can look good in a photo, but not so good once it's in your hand. I just won a bid on a Jefferson Compass for dirt cheap. They cost plenty at a trade fair and on most sutler internet sites. For the Period Correct (PC) police out there... the compass is a little after my persona's time, but I need something to keep from getting lost and my old Boyscout lensatic compass is definately not going to pass for mid 18th Century.

Here they are... I hope:

Sutlers:

Clearwater Hats: http://www.clearwaterhats.com/
Wilde Weavery: http://www.wildeweavery.com/
Buffalo Creek: http://members.tripod.com/buffalo_creek_2/
Cabin Creek: http://www.cabincreek.net/
Jas. Townsend and Sons: http://www.jastown.com/
Log Cabin Shop: http://www.logcabinshop.com/
Mt. Top Trading Co.: http://www.mountaintoptradingco.com/index2.htm
White River Trader: http://www.white-river-trader.com/
Northwest Traders (Blankets): http://www.nwtrader.com/
Barkertown Sutlers: http://www.barkertownsutlers.com/
Hamilton Dry Goods: http://www.hamiltondrygoods.com/
Oakhill Enterprises: http://www.frontiernet.net/~oakhill/
Spotted Pony Traders: http://www.spottedponytraders.com/
Sew it Seams: http://www.sew-it-seams.com/
The Scarlet Scarab: http://www.scarletscarab.com/
Arrow Moccasin Co.: http://www.arrowmoc.com/
Nor’ West Co.: http://www.norwestcompany.com/
Clark and Sons: http://www.clarkandsons.com/
Blue Heron Mercantile (also a resource): http://www.blueheronmercantile.com/

Associations:

American Longrifle Assoc.: http://www.liming.org/alra/
The Coalition of Hist. Trekkers (COHT): http://www.coht.org/
NC Chapter of COHT: http://www.coht.org/reps/nc-rep/
Contemporary Longrifle Assoc.: http://www.longrifle.ws/
Rogers Rangers: http://www.rogersrangers.com/
Rogers Rangers (PA Co.): http://rogers_rangers_pa_co.tripod.com/Pa_Co_of_Rogers_Rangers/

Resources:

Historical Trekking (great site!): http://www.historicaltrekking.com/
18th Century Sites of Interest: http://danlambert.home.mindspring.com/manskers/manskerslinks.html
Mid-America Buckskinners: http://members.tripod.com/~jpfinn/index.html
Buckskinnerweb: http://www.buckskinnerweb.com/main/intro.htm
Sye Parker’s Site (great personal site!!): http://www.geocities.com/sye_parker/index.html
18th Century Resources: http://newark.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/18th/history.html
International Blackpowder: http://www.jkcc.com/bloodbrothers/index/bpmsp.html
Maps of the F&I War: http://www.masshist.org/maps/MapsHome/Home.htm
Muzzleloader Magazine: http://www.muzzleloadermag.com/
Reenactor.net: http://www.reenactor.net/
Rondylist: http://www.rondylist.com/
SW Regional Rondezvous (good beginner site): http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus/swrr/begin.htm
The Almost Complete List of ML and BS Links: http://www.coon-n-crockett.org/linklist.htm
The Historical Trek (another good beginner site): http://www.ccnnwebdesign.com/paladin/
Florida Frontiersmen: http://www.floridafrontiersmen.org
Step into the Past 1756 – 1763: http://home.earthlink.net/~jfluhman/temp/FI_Links.htm
Red Threads Message Board: http://disc.server.com/Indices/199932.html
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Don't forget the special equipment needed to stalk and capture
the wily pepperoni, Le Longue Cannelloni!!

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Originally posted by Doc M

Don't forget the special equipment needed to stalk and capture
the wily pepperoni, Le Longue Cannelloni!!

Doc M


Rich,
Does this mean now you'll be partaking in the Table Rock "contest/festivities"?

caitlin
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Posted - June 24 2003 :  4:38:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You bet, Caitlin ... what Lady Ann refers to as "Moon Over Mohicanland"! I figure that maybe that will entice the Doc to her first Gathering! Or, is head "North to Huronland" more like it? I don't know. One of those two ...

Thanks for all the help, guys. Those links should keep me busy for a spell. Now, what to buy first?!?
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Posted - June 25 2003 :  01:44:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit Gasaka Soquilla's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Rich,
I like Hawkeye's recommendation for Clearwater Hats, check out their Rev War catalog. Also check out:

Carl Giordano (Tinsmith): http://www.cg-tinsmith.com/
GooseBay Workshops (Tin & Copper Ware): http://www.goosebayworkshops.com/
G. Gedney Godwin (everything & anything colonial): http://www.gggodwin.com/
Najecki Reproductions (Rev War era - BAR Inspector): http://www.najecki.com/repro/reproindex.html

Hope this helps & good luck to ya'!

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hey rich if you can go to fort loudon sept 6,7 there will be some good traders and you`ll get to see it first hand not off of web site and you might get to see me there sat. stan
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Hey
www.pantherprimitives.com has a very good selection of things.I have bought several things from their and they seem to have a very good prices. Also you might want to consider making your own things. I make leggings and other things. They are not very difficult. Hope that my info helps you out some.
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Richfed,
It appears you have a wonderful list of resources to go to but the question is still, what to buy? I hope you will accept my humble proffered suggestions, with sincere apologies if you already have this kit (I have long been away from Mohicanland), all of which is based on the mentoring of many esteemed members of this group:

-firestarting kit. including a small tin for creating char, charcloth, striker, flint, and help on how to do it. I have learned to have three or four scattered about my person and my equipment, especially if one is likely to get wet or lost (which is aobut 100% of the time)

-shooting bag. I purchased one that I have one on my belt to lessen the burdon on my shoulders, but have now made one of leather with a nice strap from a tape loom. Be sure it has lots of little pockets and pouches for necessities. I have a pattern I followed, should you wish to have a copy.

-a powderhorn, the source of which is a difficult decision, as you have at least two superb creators at your disposal...

-a small copper cornboiler. I happen to be a big fan of Tom Brown of Westminster Forge, although I have copperware from several sutlers

-a trek tarp. My own is a specially-made version from Peter Marques at Tentsmiths.com. If you mention the one he made for, um, er, my sister Sarah, he will know what you mean. OR, I can send you the details. It is Egyptian cotton, waterproof, light as a feather, and tremendously versatile.

-multiple canvas, leather, and oilcloth bags for carrying and separating stuff -- I know, BORING, but very practical. Be sure you separate your stuff into logical groupings and that you know what is in which bag and how each bag "feels", should you need to find things in the dark. Which you will do.

-a few good recipes for carrying light loads. One of my favorites is dried peas with barley, boiled in a copper pot with a dash of salt pork. Another is dried corn and walnuts, boiled in a corn boiler with a dash of powdered maple syrup.

-plenty of wool stockings.

I could go on, but I'll stop for now. I'm so pleased you have crossed over and become one of us!!

I remain, as always,
YMH&OS,
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Originally posted by richfed

OK, now that I'm almost a longhunter myself - yippeeee!!!! - I've started the process of "completing" my outfit. I can see how that can be a never-ending process! I browsed some of the on-line sources that I could find yesterday, but I'm interested in what you gus & gals may suggest.

Obviously, I need powder & more shot, but I can get those locally. I know where my tomahawk is going to come from and I'm going to buy one of Clabert's fishing kits. What are the other essentials?

I know I want a canteen, hunting knife, some sort of head gear ...

Opinions & recommendations needed - of sources & items. Mid-18th century, naturally!
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What size is the tarp that Peter made for you .. and if I may be so bold as to ask how many pence did it set your ..um .. .sister .. back? I have several oilskins, but the large one (9X9) is too heavy to pack along and the smaller lighter one (7X7) can be a little confining. I do not mind if you wish to convey this info by private post...Thanks in advance.

Joe
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E. Trader....so good to see you on the "post" again. I enjoyed your company at Monmouth and look forward to our next meeting.....but who knows when that may be. Our next events are a very interesting visit to the Jacobite camp on Labor Day weekend at Old Bedford Village, then Brandywine in Sept., Germantown and Ligonier in October, then a bit of rest until St. Andrew's at OBV at end of November (my cousin Malcolm states, "Aye, 'tis the blessed Saint's feast day on the 30th, you ignorant colonial!!"), then OBV again in December for Candlelight Tours. Keep in contact, my friend. Pax Aye!! M. Flags
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Many Flags,
I too enjoyed seeing you at Monmouth. I understand you had a boy soprano named Chauncey Goodrich singing at your church service. I hope he didn't break any wine glasses still out from the night before!

It appears that, as you say, we will not be crossing paths for awhile. I am staying in the east for some time. That said, I hear so much talk about Bedford Village that I would love to find a reason to go there, especially if it is to be among friends. Got any ideas? I hear it is a great place...

BTW, I can't remember if I told you, I did sell that musket for the asking price. Thank you anyway!

YH&OS, and your friend,
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E. Trader....so good to see you on the "post" again. I enjoyed your company at Monmouth and look forward to our next meeting.....but who knows when that may be. Our next events are a very interesting visit to the Jacobite camp on Labor Day weekend at Old Bedford Village, then Brandywine in Sept., Germantown and Ligonier in October, then a bit of rest until St. Andrew's at OBV at end of November (my cousin Malcolm states, "Aye, 'tis the blessed Saint's feast day on the 30th, you ignorant colonial!!"), then OBV again in December for Candlelight Tours. Keep in contact, my friend. Pax Aye!! M. Flags
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Richfed,
I third the vote for Clearwater hats. I have one of their tricorns and it is a dream. I notice their Longhunter hat is extremely similar to what the King's Rangers are wearing during the American War of Independence. We always wear it with the left side sewn up, so that when our muskets are at the shoulder, the muskets won't knock our hats off! Oh, it's always the simple things that trip us up. Anyway, I don't know if long-hunters tie up a side or not, but it sure is fun figuring out which turkey feather or animal tail or cockade to use on the flat side for decoration!

YMH&OS,
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Rich,
I like Hawkeye's recommendation for Clearwater Hats, check out their Rev War catalog. Also check out:

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Hawkeye Joe, and anyone else who is interested,

Here is a link to most of the details about my trek tarp: http://reenacting.net/mystuff/trektarp.html

I don't recall what it cost but it was no more expensive than any of his other tarps, e.g., his oilskin cloth tarp. But well worth every penny!!

YHOS,
English Trader

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What size is the tarp that Peter made for you .. and if I may be so bold as to ask how many pence did it set your ..um .. .sister .. back? I have several oilskins, but the large one (9X9) is too heavy to pack along and the smaller lighter one (7X7) can be a little confining. I do not mind if you wish to convey this info by private post...Thanks in advance.

Joe
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Hawkeye Joe,
Greetings and apologies for taking so long to get back to you on this. I have posted all the details, pictures and all, of my trek tarp so you can see what it is and order one if you wish:

http://reenacting.net/mystuff/trektarp.html

I have friends who have oilskin and I notice three things: (1) they don't breath as well as the Egyptian cotton, meaning condensation can get you as wet as what ever you are trying to avoid getting wet from; (2) the oil/wax can get icky and muck things up; and (3) it weighs a lot more.

I would get an oilskin cloth for flooring, I think. Just my opinion!

Good luck.

YHOS,
English Trader

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Originally posted by Hawkeye_Joe

What size is the tarp that Peter made for you .. and if I may be so bold as to ask how many pence did it set your ..um .. .sister .. back? I have several oilskins, but the large one (9X9) is too heavy to pack along and the smaller lighter one (7X7) can be a little confining. I do not mind if you wish to convey this info by private post...Thanks in advance.

Joe
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Thanks you very much for your setting all that up.. I know it wasn't all for my benefit but I'll think it was a persoanl favor and buy you a hot buttered rum when and if we ever meet..
I also find that most oilskin is heavy, sometimes more than one can bear..I hope that I may soon repay your kindness..
I remain,

Jos.
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lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin 1759

The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, "I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it."

"Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."
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Mmmmmm.... I like hot buttered rum very much!! I'll take you up on that offer!

YMH&OS,
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Thanks you very much for your setting all that up.. I know it wasn't all for my benefit but I'll think it was a persoanl favor and buy you a hot buttered rum when and if we ever meet..
I also find that most oilskin is heavy, sometimes more than one can bear..I hope that I may soon repay your kindness..
I remain,

Jos.
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