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Monadnock Guide
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 Posted - May 03 2011 : 07:44:25 AM
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An arm of a Pakistani Taliban group led the charge Monday, according to Pakistans GEO TV, insisting that Bin Laden is still alive. Supporters rallied around a new Facebook group called, --- Osama bin Laden NOT DEAD. - Meanwhile, the Pakistani and British media Monday fell prey to a recycled and faked photograph of a dead Bin Laden.
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Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan wrote her supporters, I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, youre stupid. Just think to yourselfthey paraded Saddams dead sons around to prove they were deadwhy do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consentjust put your flags away and THINK!
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"If he is alive, we will take revenge, and if he is a martyr, we will take revenge," read one post on an Arabic-language jihadi forum, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704569404576299141940641776.html
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With no body, this will bring out every conspirator on the planet for decades. Crew members from that ship will be giving interviews & writing books years & years from now. - Rumor has it, they found BO's birth certificate at the compound, who knows?? - This thing will have a LONG shelf life, - and this is only the beginning.
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 11:33:40 AM
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| So, who do you believe, MG? Is he dead or alive? |
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Kaylynn44
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 12:32:56 PM
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If I have to choose between believing the President or some yo-yo from the Taliban, then I will believe the President.
They don't have to use bin Laden's death as an excuse for revenge. They have been murdering for years and will continue to do so, with or without their "leader."
As for Cindy Sheehan thinking that I'm stupid for believing that he's dead.......I've been called worse.  |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 2:01:39 PM
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I think they/we nailed him Joyce, - but with no body, the same folks that think President Bush knew about 9.11 ahead of 9.11 will crawl back out of the woodwork again.
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Kaylnn - it's been a looong time, good to see you posting again. |
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Kaylynn44
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 2:44:13 PM
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Hi MG,
I still come around, just don't post like I used too, but I like to keep up with my Mohican buddies. 
You are right about not having the body MG because all they will have is pictures or video and some people will just think that they are fake. I know someone who still doesn't believe that man has been on the moon. He says it's all fake.  |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 3:30:46 PM
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MG, Kay & WW, IMHO he is definitely 10-7 (cop radio code for 'out of service'), regardless of what the 'Ditch Witch' and the 'Tango Towel-Head' mouthpiece may say. Outside of a feeling of relief that none of our guys were hurt (the fact that these men would complete the mission was never in question), I am busy laughing at the hypocrisy coming from the Marxi-Crats and the 'mainstream' media.
The Lefties in this country (The Leeches & Looters') who are now thumping their chests, pretending to 'grow a pair' late in the game, are the same people who decried the same tactics (both intellegence gathering techniques and operational forays) when they were used by the Bush Administration. I hear the Lefties singing 'God Bless President Obama', but they ignore the fact that the only thing Barry did was to 'push the button' on a machine built and tuned-up by his predecessor. It would be nice to hear them admit that it was a good idea for Obama not to dismantle the intellegence/military system put into place by Bush; although it would be too much for them to admit that Bush deserved thanks as well (but the thought that they would have to admit that Bush was right, might cause their mush-filled heads to explode)
Now, the real thanks goes to the men & women of the intellegence community, who through the use of 'enhanced' interorgation techniques (as reported by API; and "yes", the very same ones that the Lefties pissed & moaned about during the Bush Administration) and at locations far away from American jurisprudence, were able to ascertain the location of the target. And special thanks goes to the guys who are the 'operators' of SEAL-6; who planned and executed the mission without loss of American lives.
I have given the credit to those who deserve it, including Obama, who authorized the 'catch or kill' order put into place by Bush. Now I have a nice 'middle finger' for the pinhead who ordered that this filthy mudering monkey (Bin Laden) be given a dignified funeral at sea. The burial at sea deserved by this animal would have been for his body to be urinated on, and soaked in pigs blood by the SEALs, who would then push it off of the cargo ramp of their C-130 over the Indian Ocean at around 5,000 ASL, while enroute back to Diego Garcia NAS.
Now I know that there are those among you who would say, "Gee Sarge, don't you think that the Islamic 'street' would be mad if they found out about Osama's body being desicrated?" As for finding out, the dig-cam fotatage would be uploaded to You Tube before the bird even landed at the base. And if you are worried about the Islamic 'street' (I prefer the term 'gutter') becoming angry, well I got news for you, they are already at war with us, and have been for almost 1400 years! What part of that can you not get your small brain around?
In closing, the culturally over-sensitive among you may take offense to me refering to Osama bin Laden as a 'filthy murdering monkey', well that is too g** d*** bad! There are men and women who have paid with their lives because of Osama bin Laden's actions/beliefs, so I could care less what you think (or more likely 'feel') about my opinion of this now deceased dirtbag!
The Sarge has now spoken 
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 5:28:58 PM
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I believe that he is dead, as well. The dna test (his dna compared to his sister's) concludes that it is 99.9% certain it was bin Laden. I don't need to see any photos of his body.
I don't really care what they did to or with his body, just as long as it wasn't buried in a place that could become a shrine. I think that was quite handily taken care of.
I agree that President Bush should get a lot of the credit for this, along with our intelligence agencies and the military advisors. But the real heroes are those Navy SEALs who performed this amazing feat. How I wish I could see video of the entire thing!
I say Halleluiah! And thank you! |
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 5:41:05 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13270926
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Separately, I spoke to a serving SEAL, who did not want to be identified. He was mildly skeptical about the US government's account of the raid. "I'll only form a true view on this," he said, "when I hear about it directly - from the guys who were there." |
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Posted - May 04 2011 : 12:45:19 PM
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I wonder what he is implying, MG? Of course, the details are already changing.... OBL was armed and firing... OBL was reaching for a weapon... OBL was not armed... OBL used a woman as a shield... No woman was used as a shield... We may never really know all of the true details of the event.
To me, the details don't really matter. It doesn't bother me one whit that OBL may NOT have been armed. It doesn't make me change my mind about the outcome of this. The world is now rid of one more evil murderer, and that's all that counts. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - May 04 2011 : 1:02:51 PM
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I think he's saying he doesn't want/trust the administration or the press for the "right account" of what happened. Mistakes, enhancing an event, expressing an opinion & not a fact (most likely) - only wants to get his info first hand from the guys that were actually there. - (For "us" - that would be nice indeed, - but not about to happen)
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There have been a number of discrepancies issued by the White House since Sunday's raid.
Press Secretary Jay Carney blamed the below differing stories on the 'fog of combat.'
THEN: Osama Bin Laden was armed with an AK-47 during the raid.
NOW: The Al Qaeda leader was actually unarmed but did resist before he was shot.
THEN: On Monday, the White House said Bin Laden was involved in a firefight, which is why the SEALs killed rather than captured him.
NOW: On Tuesday, however, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Bin Laden did not fire on the SEALs.
THEN: Counter-terrorism chief, John Brennan said a woman, thought to be one of bin Ladens wives, was used as a human shield during the raid and was killed.
NOW: Amal Al-Sadah, 27, bin Ladens youngest wife, is thought to have rushed at the Navy SEALS and was shot in the leg but not killed. The woman who died was said to be the wife of one of his aides, caught in the cross fire.
THEN: A White House transcript said it was bin Ladens son Hamza who was killed in the raid.
NOW: They then corrected that to another son Khalid.
THEN: The night of the raid, administration officials held a telephone briefing for reporters. 'During the raid, we lost one helicopter due to mechanical failure,' one of the administration officials said.
NOW: Later in the same call, another official contradicted that: 'We didn't say it was mechanical.'
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Can you imagine what the press would have done with this if it was President Bush??? |
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Posted - May 04 2011 : 2:44:35 PM
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Wilderness Woman said: Of course, the details are already changing.... OBL was armed and firing... OBL was reaching for a weapon... OBL was not armed... OBL used a woman as a shield... No woman was used as a shield...
WW, you don't expect the truth and/or facts from this administration, do you?
To wit: Stimulus, Obamacare, etc.
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Monadnock Guide noted: I think he's saying he doesn't want/trust the administration or the press for the "right account" of what happened. Mistakes, enhancing an event, expressing an opinion & not a fact (most likely)
MG, your SEAL contact is right in his reservations. Given the large number of lies which this administration spreads, and on just about every subject, one cannot possibly trust Obama & Company for anything close to the truth.
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Monadnock Guide also reported:
Press Secretary Jay Carney blamed the below differing stories on the 'fog of combat.'
THEN: Osama Bin Laden was armed with an AK-47 during the raid.
NOW: The Al Qaeda leader was actually unarmed but did resist before he was shot.
THEN: On Monday, the White House said Bin Laden was involved in a firefight, which is why the SEALs killed rather than captured him.
NOW: On Tuesday, however, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Bin Laden did not fire on the SEALs.
There is an interesting fact to any 'gun guy' in here; that being, just about every photo of this animal in which he is armed, it is with an AKSU-74 and not an AK-47. Most of the photos he is in, he has the shortened variant of the Kalishinkov family; but it is the reddish bakelite magazine which is the clue to the caliber. The difference being that the AK-74 family is chambered in 5.45X39mm ComBloc as opposed to the 7.62X39mm ComBloc round of the AK-47. My guess is that 'Princess' could not handle the larger caliber weapon 
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Monadnock Guid finished with: Can you imagine what the press would have done with this if it was President Bush???
MG, the answer to that would be simple; the Cultural Marxists would continue with their tired and hackneyed chant of "Bush lied, and people died..." 
YMH&OS,
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