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Bea
Keeper of the Western Door
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 Posted - October 21 2002 : 11:33:37 AM
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Hi Jim,
I thought I'd better continue this with a different thread.
Thanks for telling me about your ancestors! It encouraged me to continue with my search, as difficult as it may be. Since our last posts I'dug' up 2 German messageboards again and asked for help..Nothing yet- but hopefully I'll be successful soon. What resources did you use? I went into ancestry.com and found it to be very useful! They even provide you with the software to build your family tree. Boy, I would sure love to fill in all the blanks and find out about my great-grandparents..
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securemann
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 3:52:46 PM
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Hey Bea,Most of my success was just plain luck but having previous information from family members also helps.The Mormon site is pretty good because they obtained alot of records of people in order to baptize them Mormons.They went way back.Ancestry.com teases people then you have to pay.I found alot of infro on the web for free that Ancestry.com charges for.Remember,this took many years to do and I am about done.All I can suggest is:surf,surf and surf the web.I don't know how much infro you have to start with,but it is very time consuming.It's hard if you have a common surname because you might go down the wrong road.My surname is Mann.That's like having a name like Smith.Once I found my Mann family link,I took off like a shot! They came through Scituate,Mass from England.There were Mann's in Virginia,etc.but no connection.There are German Mann's.No connection there.I was lucky to find a web site on the Gottscheers(Kocevarji's)which really helped me about my Grandmother.What can I tell you Bea? You will have to be a busy Bea in this genealogy hunt.
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Gadget Girl
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 3:59:22 PM
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Another site I have found very useful is Rootsweb.com and go to the WorldConnect Project. This data can be added by anyone and thus is not verifyable, BUT it can be a good place to get names in blank slots to check out further yourself!
Di
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Bea
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 4:29:52 PM
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Hi Jim and Di,
Thanks for the hints...I have heard of Rootsweb but I thought it was somehow connected to Ancestry.com. The latter one does like to charge you for things, I noticed that when I wanted to print out my "free" family tree.
How far am I? well, I need to find out about my great-grandparents which is somewhat complicated considering how old my grand-parents were when my father was born ( 41 and 58)..What makes it harder for me is that all the valuable info is located in Germany..
Jim, I had to grin when you mentioned the name Smith as the German version SCHMITT happens to be my maiden name..:)Oh, and I know some Manns from our church. Randy is an elder and his wife June is our pianist and my music team leader. Do you know if you have any relatives in Alberta??? You never know.. I tried the Mormon data base but couldn't find any entries..:(((
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securemann
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 5:57:50 PM
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Hi Bea, I don't think I have any Mann relatives north of the border but it would be dynamite if I did.I wandered into Canada many years ago and got to this place called Lapraire in Quebec.Never studied French so I got the heck out of there.As far as I know,we went from Scituate,Mass to Vermont to Berne County,N.Y. and finally Schoharie County,N.Y. which was Indian territory.I LOVE Schoharie County.My Grandfather was the one who ventured out of the valley down to Brooklyn,N.Y. around the 1890's.So that's how this former city boy ended up in trouble.Thanks Grandpa!
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mohicanwarrior
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 4:52:29 PM
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Now if you are looking up yaour ansestors do you have to know all of their names or just like a few names. Because I have been looking for a long time and the only name I have are my great grandpartens on my mom and dads side. Mohicanwarrior
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securemann
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 6:52:13 PM
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Hi Jessica,Names are very helpful for the genealogy process.When I say names,I mean surnames which is your last name.You say you have your Great-Grandparents name? Then I would start with them and see what happens.You can ask family members like cousins,aunts,uncles,etc.for information also.It's real detective work but alot of fun too! Good luck.
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Bea
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 7:44:53 PM
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Hi Jim and Jessica,
Yes, it can be fun unless you have to locate family members in Europe.:)Especially if it is in a different language. i can still speak German fluently but my German Amtsdeutsch in not the greatest..:)
However, I did some other research for a friend who needed to find her birthfamily. it was a long road but in the end I was able to reunite her with her family. It was a rather emotional journey..
Jim, if you have any other tips,pleas ee-mail me. So far it looks like I have to contact the German town of Bechtheim in order to find my grandfather's parents. My grandfather was born in 1868 and had already passed on when I was born..:( Thus, my dead end street.
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mohicanwarrior
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 7:59:18 PM
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Hey thanks Bea, and securemann, I will try to find out my familys names but I know it will be alot of work the only thing that I really know is that my grandparents surname is fox and that is also my last name, what start huh??? Hey Bea are you a professional in geneology??? That is really awsom that you can help people reunit with their familys. well thanks for your guys help. Mohicanwarrior
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Bea
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 8:08:24 PM
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Oh, no!! I wish!! I just did a friend a favour..it wasn't the ulitmate outcome as Colleen's birthmom had died two years prior of cancer..But- she has brothers and sisters and a loving step-dad now.
becasue of the intensive seacrh I conducted I figured I should delve into my family history.try genealogy.com and it will give you some good pointers. Also the mormon database ( as Jim pointed out) can be helpful if your family is listed. Mine wasn't as they didn't immigrate..:( if you need any more help. feel free to contact me via e-mail!!
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securemann
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 11:05:02 PM
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Hey Bea,Just curious,are you 100% German? Do you have other nationalities in you that can be traced? The German you speak is it High German? The language of my Grandmother is Gottscheerisch which is Germanic in origin but they spoke High German in school and public places.Gottscheerisch is one of the oldest dialects in the Germanic language and just about dead.I have a handbook on the language and write myself notes in it when I don't want anyone else to figure out what's going on.Of course I have to hide the book so they don't find the English translation,lol.
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Bea
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Posted - October 22 2002 : 11:25:34 PM
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I speak High Geman but I can also speak my father's dialect which is Hessisch. The same goes for the Bavarian dialect. Do you need help with any translations?
Truth be told I haver never heard of Gottscheerisch before..In which region is it spoken?
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Gadget Girl
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Posted - October 23 2002 : 10:00:38 AM
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Hey guys,
Another site newcomers to searching their roots may find helpful is Cyndi's List - it has over 169,000 links and lots of pointers for "getting started".
Di
http://www.cyndislist.com/
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securemann
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Posted - October 23 2002 : 4:44:48 PM
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Bea,Actually Gottscheerisch derived from the Bavarian dialect.It's such a primitive form of the dialect that it's almost dead.Those folks settled in Southern Slovenia in the late 1200's and their total isolation from everyone helped them preserve their native tongue.They were also known as the Balkan Austrians even though they did not live in Austria or Germany.They had their own little colony which they were very proud of.Some did intermarry with the Slavic Slovenes which made some real strange surnames.I will look for my book and write to you in Gottscheerisch and see if you can decipher some terms.
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mohicanwarrior
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Posted - October 24 2002 : 5:43:57 PM
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WOW I have never heard of Gottescheerisch I just learned something new today!!!!!maybe I will learn about that in Wold History class Mohicanwarrior
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securemann
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Posted - October 25 2002 : 5:04:44 PM
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I don't think you will hear anything about the Gottscheers in your history class Jessica.They are almost an extinct group with most of them living in the New York City area and getting up there in age.The only ones who are interested in this class of people are the Gottscheers themselves because they are virtually unknown to the public.Just another ethnic group falling by the wayside.My daughter did her honors project on the Gottscheers which blew away her professor because this was all new to him and it also helped that I had all the information to help her with.They are also known as the Kocevarji in Slovenia.
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Bea
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Posted - October 25 2002 : 5:42:37 PM
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Jim, did you get my e-mail? I tried to e-mail you via the board. I have no idea whether or not it worked!
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