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richfed	Posted - December 29 2002 : 11:19:21 AM Of all the roles Daniel Day-Lewis has had in film to date [and there are more than are listed here!], which is your favorite? We realize you can interpret this in various ways: is the performance your favorite, or is it the character played? At any rate, feel free to comment in this poll's thread - or add a "write-in" vote.
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Bill R	Posted - September 05 2003 : 3:14:17 PM Well, I've seen him in The Boxer, and Gangs, and LOTM. I'd have to go with Gangs. He was great in that role. We, the audience, were just as compelled and confused as Leonardo's character about Bill in that we both loved and hated Bill the Butcher...all through DDL's excellent portrayal. But that eye! Jeez! Where'd they come up with that idea? Did the real life guy after whom the role was cast have such a thing? Anyway, DDL is a dedicated artist who researches his characters to the Nth degree and gets very into them. Excellent actor, but I'd go with Gangs on this one. His best role so far in my opinion.
Hawkeye_Joe	Posted - September 05 2003 : 05:12:35 AM I just watched "Gangs" yesterday..I've got to say that all of them were robbed.. Especially the film itself..."Gangs of NY" should have won best picture.. "Chicago" was just so much hipe and fluff..better by far than "Moulon Rouge" but still it was nothing in camparison...
susquesus	Posted - September 04 2003 : 11:46:21 PM Had to say Hawkeye though "In the Name of the Father", and "My Left Foot" are both also excellent. I've read he works very hard to "become" his character, research, etc... As to his accent according to the novels he would have spoke with a sort of Delaware (Algonquian) and Dutch accent. His parents being of Dutch extraction and his living with Chingachgook and the Delawares from about age 12.
Lilymarie	Posted - July 17 2003 : 10:12:15 AM This was a tough one. He has put so much quality and beauty into each of his roles that it's really hard to pick just one. I voted for ITNOTF, but I was also leaning toward Gangs, then MLF, followed by LOTM. These four films show his tremendous range, versatility and incredible sexual charisma, which he manages to radiate even while sitting in a wheelchair or throwing knives. Remarkable talent! Gorgeous man!
Dances with Beagles	Posted - July 15 2003 : 12:31:36 PM DDL a shoe cobbler? Where have I been?!! I found this article on the FOXNews website http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,91929,00.html (article below) Well, I have certainly been out of the loop! Why was DDL working as a shoemaker in Florence? Was it for a role, or was it some sort of therapy?!! Hey, I'd walk a mile in HIS shoes any day! (but not at those prices!) Article from FOX: Daniel Day Lewis: A Peach of a Cobbler (by Roger Friedman) Last week in sunny Florence, Italy, I had the pleasure of finally meeting Stefano Bemer -- the custom shoemaker for whom Oscar winning actor Daniel Day-Lewis worked a couple of years ago. Bemer's very small shop is not in a fashionable area of Florence, but sort of hidden away and extremely discreet. It consists of a tiny waiting area with a counter, adjoined by a similar workspace. There, a couple of workers bang on nails and try not to inhale glue as they make one of a kind pairs of men's shoes. The shoes all carry the same price tag: $1,500 for the actual product, plus $250 for the three required fittings. I tried on a pair of suede desert boots which Bemer had in my size. The price tag for these was $730. They were lovely, but I declined in several languages. Bemer had nothing but praise for Day-Lewis, whom he called a hard worker. "I used to say to him, 'Daniel, no one is perfect,'" said Bemer, noting that Day-Lewis would often become disturbed when a stitch was not exactly right. Day-Lewis worked for Bemer for an astounding 11 months in 1999. The shoe man would definitely take him back. In the meantime, Bemer makes shoes for the likes of Sting -- who has a villa in Tuscany. I, however, have returned to the Timberland outlet shop.
Christina	Posted - June 27 2003 : 9:30:20 PM quote: Originally posted by Theresa Speaking of...just saw the advertisement on tv for GONY available Tuesday...of course you can order it right here...right Rich? Daniel's performance in it was mind boggling. He would have made a very intriguing Strider but Viggo did a good job with it, right Christina? Wow, how did I miss THIS thread earlier? All kinds of great questions, but in answer to Theresa...While I would have dearly loved to see my Danny as Strider, I have to say that Viggo Mortensen is dead on in the role. I'm a Tolkien nut and it takes a lot to please me...and Viggo is not only a good actor in this role but I've got him now second on my list to Hawkeye as most-gorgeous-thing-I've-seen-on-film. Doubt my devotion to Aragorn? Come by my desk and see my poster, my screen saver, my vintage "Aragorn" figurine and the Aragorn for President bumper sticker on my Jeep... Now, as for Dan's best role, Hawkeye is my sentimental favorite. But a VERY close second is Gerry Conlon in INOTF. I fell in love with that character. He conveyed such emotion and authenticity in that role, and performed with such a range...the accent was also perfect. I loved Dan in the Boxer as well but why, oh why, couldn't they have let him have a decent haircut and clothes that didn't look like they came from the Goodwill store in Purgatory? And tied with Gerry is Bill the Butcher. I thought Dan made a great, sexy, psychotic villain. I loved watching those long hands fling knives. I loved the accent. I loved the clothes. He should have won the Oscar. He wuz robbed. But Hawkeye, of course, is still the ideal!!! Christina
caitlin	Posted - June 27 2003 : 9:16:54 PM quote: Originally posted by Ongewasgone I watched only The Last of the Mohicans, The Boxer and My Left Foot. I'm gonna watch Gangs of New York as soon as it will be released here in Italy. Anyway, I think that D-DL was perfect in My Left Foot Though I love LOTM, I will have to agree with Ongewasgone that "My Left Foot" was definitely a defining role. The entire dedication and focus that went into that role ... on DDL's part, he truly brought the character to life. caitlin
Theresa	Posted - June 27 2003 : 6:21:43 PM Speaking of...just saw the advertisement on tv for GONY available Tuesday...of course you can order it right here...right Rich? Daniel's performance in it was mind boggling. He would have made a very intriguing Strider but Viggo did a good job with it, right Christina?
Smoke286	Posted - June 27 2003 : 6:08:45 PM Sorry folks, but DDL was mesmerizing in Gangs of New York, definatly his best work . I'd put The Boxer second and LOTM third. Wouldn't he have made a great Strider in LOTR, much better then Viggo Mortensen! Who the hell is he?
ConfusedOne	Posted - June 04 2003 : 02:24:43 AM I've only seem The Last of the Mohicans...so there's my answer.
Lurking Huron0943	Posted - May 26 2003 : 08:00:05 AM I vote for Gangs of New York, followed by In the Name of the Father. Personally, I think DDL should have won the Oscar for GONY.
Roxy	Posted - January 22 2003 : 10:11:37 PM i saw Gangs of New York with my mom the other day and we both liked it (i honestly have to say my fave part was the music)and i have to say that DDL gave an awsome performance. he's a very good bad guy, so to speak. but i have to admit that as soon as i got home from watching GONY i put in Last of the Mohichans. i know i sound all girly and stuff, but i honestly perfer DDL in LOTM when hes playing a romantic hero to when hes playing a guy who murders people with his butcher knives and sleeps with three women at once in GONY. idk, i guess its a female thing :). but if you dont faint at the sight of blood, GONY is a great movie and i highly recommend it.~Roxy~
Ongewasgone	Posted - January 11 2003 : 04:32:56 AM I watched only The Last of the Mohicans, The Boxer and My Left Foot. I'm gonna watch Gangs of New York as soon as it will be released here in Italy. Anyway, I think that D-DL was perfect in My Left Foot
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 09 2003 : 07:58:25 AM Ahhh! Ok. Not being a scholar, and not knowing what kinds of writings are out there on this subject... I honestly did not know what sorts of clues were available. Thanks for explaining, and thanks for your patience, CT-R! Ciao!
CT•Ranger	Posted - January 08 2003 : 4:40:54 PM quote: Originally posted by Wilderness Woman Absolutely! That nice mix is part of what makes America great. More friendly discussion here... My "stupid question" was mainly directed to CT-Ranger, where he states: As for accents, there were many around in the 18th century just as today, but they were quite distinct from anything which exists in America today. The New England "Yankee twang" was a mixture of Southern and Eastern English accents, as that was were the majority of New England colonists were from. You can still hear something like the old "Yankee twang" in parts of East Anglia today in the "Norfolk whine" I am certainly not a scholar of languages, so please forgive me, but I don't understand how it can be stated so definitely how any given group of people spoke in the 18th century, or how differently people from the same area may sound today? What physical evidence is there that proves who had a "twang" and when? How can that be conveyed through the written word? Guess I am still Lost in the Wilderness... of speech! Historians and linguists can reconstruct old accents from descriptions of the Yankee accent in primary documents, ryhming patterns in 17th-18th century New England poetry, and the descriptions of 18th-19th century orthnographers. The "Yankee twang" was quite famous by the late 18th century and many people commented on it and tried to describe it in writing. There is a good description of early American accents and speech ways in David Hackett Fisher's Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America. For example, in his description of New England speech ways he writes; "The ryhme schemes of New England poets in the 17th and 18th centuries tell us that glare was pronounced glar; hair was har; air was ar; and war rhymed with star."
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 08 2003 : 08:01:06 AM quote: Originally posted by morgaine Several years ago, there was a series on PBS that dealt with the English language. They demonstrated how American regional accents today evolved from the way English was spoken in the various parts of England where the colonists came from. It was very interesting to hear. Hmmm... wish I had seen that. It may have helped me to understand how, without actually hearing the accent, one can determine that there was one. Thanks! Ciao!
morgaine	Posted - January 07 2003 : 11:02:29 PM Several years ago, there was a series on PBS that dealt with the English language. They demonstrated how American regional accents today evolved from the way English was spoken in the various parts of England where the colonists came from. It was very interesting to hear. What CT Ranger says about that is true. (I, myself, have no problem with the way the characters speak in LOTM.) Even today, on Tangier Island in the Chesapeake, the islanders have their own dialect that is close to Elizabethan English. The Gullah people in South Carolina have an African dialect. I also think that I have read that the French spoken in Canada has similarities to 17th century French. I think it is fascinating and wonderful when such parts of the past remain with us today. I believe that in Colonial Williamsburg, they are researching the way English was actually spoken in the 18th century with the goal of having character interpreters actually speak in that fashion. I do not know how advanced this project is.
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 07 2003 : 10:44:07 PM Absolutely! That nice mix is part of what makes America great. More friendly discussion here... My "stupid question" was mainly directed to CT-Ranger, where he states: As for accents, there were many around in the 18th century just as today, but they were quite distinct from anything which exists in America today. The New England "Yankee twang" was a mixture of Southern and Eastern English accents, as that was were the majority of New England colonists were from. You can still hear something like the old "Yankee twang" in parts of East Anglia today in the "Norfolk whine" I am certainly not a scholar of languages, so please forgive me, but I don't understand how it can be stated so definitely how any given group of people spoke in the 18th century, or how differently people from the same area may sound today? What physical evidence is there that proves who had a "twang" and when? How can that be conveyed through the written word? Guess I am still Lost in the Wilderness... of speech!
daire	Posted - January 07 2003 : 3:12:10 PM quote: Originally posted by Wilderness Woman How can we possibly know how Anybody sounded in the 18th century? Not a stupid question...I was (trying to, anyway) commenting on speculation of how they might have sounded. There is no way we can now how people talked with such a melange of languages coming here with immigrants, but it's kind of fun speculating!
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 07 2003 : 12:55:51 PM Alright, now... I'm going to jump into the fray here and ask a possibly very stupid question: How can we possibly know how Anybody sounded in the 18th century? After all, there were no audio recordings. We know from writings of the period how words were used and how phrases and paragraphs were put together. But how can we know what kinds of accents there were in the English language? Accents can change and evolve over the years... it's happening right here in America, in certain cultures. And now for my opinion on DD-L's use of accent in LOTM: I think that given that we really, truly do not know how Hawkeye would realistically have sounded... his interpretation of how Hawkeye might have sounded was good. Not too "veddy, veddy propah" British... not too "me Hawkeye, you Cora" Indian... not too "back-woodsish" uneducated. (No intent to poke fun at any of you re-enactors out there!) I though he did well. Just me-own little opinion! (Cute story, Theresa!) Ciao!
Theresa	Posted - January 07 2003 : 07:53:57 AM Accent?! Accent, you say? Y'all come on down here to Alabama and I'll show you accent! True story...when my daughter was a little girl we were at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville. We got on an elevator and some visitors from up north got on with us. When they heard my daughter talking they said, "Oh how cute. Listen to her accent." At which point I reminded them that they were in Alabama and they were the ones with the accents! Rude or not...I believe accents are relavent.
Keneta	Posted - January 07 2003 : 06:21:46 AM quote: Originally posted by Lurking Huron5898 Joining in on the non18th century talk-DDL made me feel quite at home, I live in the boonies of Kan-tuck-kee (yes, I know it was't set in K., but the people here are direct descendents of the old gang)where everyone around me says 'Ain't' and uses 'Frontier English' like crazy. Personally, I thought he should have spoken more like the Mohicans than the English, even though Hawkeye had gone to school to learn English. He would have spoken with Mohican language inflection in his speech, ye ken? Not frontier inflections and language. It made me wonder how many English people Hawkeye was hanging around with. But that was the fault of the directors, not DDL. I am not a lurking Huron, I am not a lurking Huron. I logged in, but didn't noticed that it didn't take my log, so I posted as that Lurking Huron again. Anyway, the above are my feelings on the accent/language discussion.
Lurking Huron5898	Posted - January 07 2003 : 06:19:02 AM Joining in on the non18th century talk-DDL made me feel quite at home, I live in the boonies of Kan-tuck-kee (yes, I know it was't set in K., but the people here are direct descendents of the old gang)where everyone around me says 'Ain't' and uses 'Frontier English' like crazy. Personally, I thought he should have spoken more like the Mohicans than the English, even though Hawkeye had gone to school to learn English. He would have spoken with Mohican language inflection in his speech, ye ken? Not frontier inflections and language. It made me wonder how many English people Hawkeye was hanging around with. But that was the fault of the directors, not DDL.
daire	Posted - January 06 2003 : 11:21:28 PM Well, it IS just a movie. Very few are ever completely historically accurate in all respects. I know 200+ years ago, the New England accent wouldn't have been what it is today (probably more British?), and good thing, I can't see Nathaniel, et al, speaking with a "pahk the cah" accent. I'm glad I don't fall into any particular "accent" group. I grew up in Central NY, now in Central Ohio (where you find a "Southern" accent as well), and don't fancy myself as having an accent, and have been told that I don't by others. (One woman here, upon learning I was from NY, assumed the city and was surprised and said "You don't sound it, do you work on not having an accent?" Some think the whole state is paved over.)
CT•Ranger	Posted - January 06 2003 : 10:57:25 PM quote: Originally posted by daire quote: Originally posted by CT•Ranger ...and he seemed to have a modern American accent. To me there was nothing in his performance which conveyed anything of the 18th century. He seemed like a modern American thrown into the 18th century. Then you'd have to throw in Jack Winthrop into that grouping as well. And the bearded colonial who said "Should have gotten out of this long ago" when talking about deserting. And the colonial who said "Got no families Cap'n, figured we'd stay and give a hand." And the colonial in Webb's office who was saying men could disappear into the forests (DVD version). And John Cameron (though, Alexandra doesn't have much of one, I don't know where their son James got his! lol) And even Chingachgook to a point when he is speaking English. Perhaps colonials didn't exactly speak that way then, as many were immigrants and brought their own accents with them, but for the purpose of the movie, they may have had the some of the colonials NOT have those accents to further convey their distinction from the British. They may have been fighting with them, but in the near future they would be fighting against them. And just how do you pinpoint a singular American accent? I can think of at least 5 different ones. :) Yep I'd throw all those characters into the grouping as well. I think one of the main flaws of the film was that it tried to distinguish too much between provincials and "British." They were all British, immigrants or not. Many historians have noted that at the beginning of English colonization, many of the the colonists (especially in New England) were trying to distinguish themselves from the "old English." But as time progressed they were drawn closer and closer. At the time of the American War of Independence, the colonists were the closest to England socially, culturally, and economically than they had been in their entire history. It was a major civil war with British fighting British. As for accents, there were many around in the 18th century just as today, but they were quite distinct from anything which exists in America today. The New England "Yankee twang" was a mixture of Southern and Eastern English accents, as that was were the majority of New England colonists were from. You can still hear something like the old "Yankee twang" in parts of East Anglia today in the "Norfolk whine". In the film Hawkeye supposedly learned English from a New England missionary school. Therefore he would have adopted more of a New England accent. I think Jack Winthrop and the other provincials should have had a New England accent as well. just some thoughts.

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